Why Somalis in the US and Canada more successfull than UK and Sweden?

[PureQ]

Somalis in the US and Canada are seen as successful. They live the same as everyone, have jobs, lots of business, rich, educated, tolerant and prominent etc.

50% of the UK and Sweden ones are either on government handout, relies on ghetto estate, attached to gang culture and so on. You don't see this happening to American/Canadian Somalis.

Why?

[Shirib]

US and Canada in general provide more opportunities for immigrants in general because they are immigrant nations. A Somali in America can see himself fully as an American and all that comes with it same with Canada. While a Somali in the UK or Sweden will never really be a Swede or an Englishman.

And for the welfare, ghetto's and gang part, plenty of Somali's involved in that in the US and Canada as well.

[Adali]

US and Canada in general provide more opportunities for immigrants in general because they are immigrant nations. A Somali in America can see himself fully as an American and all that comes with it same with Canada. While a Somali in the UK or Sweden will never really be a Swede or an Englishman.

And for the welfare, ghetto's and gang part, plenty of Somali's involved in that in the US and Canada as well.

What has success got to do with seeing yourself as Englishman ?

[Shirib]

US and Canada in general provide more opportunities for immigrants in general because they are immigrant nations. A Somali in America can see himself fully as an American and all that comes with it same with Canada. While a Somali in the UK or Sweden will never really be a Swede or an Englishman.

And for the welfare, ghetto's and gang part, plenty of Somali's involved in that in the US and Canada as well.

What has success got to do with seeing yourself as Englishman ?

opportunities that are accessible and provided

[JSL3000]

United States and Canada have more gangs and violence and there is welfare here too its just too limited so people work for a living.

[Adali]

Shirib have a Coca cola on me.

[sav12600]

the think is the somalis that moved to north america specifically the US moved there in the 70's and 80's and most of the people that moved there were highly educated people and most of their kids were born there and then you have a qaxooti that left somalia in 5 years ago by boat, train and foot to make it to uk or sweden with no family no education just documents alowing him to stay, thats the differnce

[mahoka]

In America welfare is looked down on, you get food stamps and ebt cards which make you ashamed of welfare, can't say them out load at cashier

In the UK it is a lifestyle

[Siciid85]

I doubt it. Read the statistics man. The Somalis in America are mostly in some form of welfare, whether it's housing subsidies, food stamps, child care assistance, home care for the elderly. There is widespread corruption among Somali business owners as well.

The biggest reason why is , you can't sustain your self with welfare in America. The government doesn't give it out, it's only reserved strictly for the poor folk.

The system of both places are different, therefore the life style is going to vary from country to country.

[SahanGalbeed]

There 's only 10 million swedes . They don't have a colonial past , you stand out more easily . The United States is big 300 + million , Canada is a vast land as well with a history of immigration and Britain is populated by former invaders, alwyas on the look out , wary of the next wave who is trying to take over that damned already crowded island {j/k, I like Britain, a sentimental thing }

[iandi]

Don't forget also that in North America the sons and daughters of slaves have paid a high price to open up this society so that Somalis and others, my people included,can now take advantage of.

[gegiroor]

Duplicate!

[gegiroor]

Don't forget also that in North America the sons and daughters of slaves have paid a high price to open up this society so that Somalis and others, my people included,can now take advantage of.

Quit rubbing AAs in our nose as if you're more closer to them than we're

Anyhow, in America, we're all reaping the fruits of the struggle put up by AAs and others, including white Americans.

[LobsterUnit]

U.S. Somalis are better shooters but no one can handle a butter knife like Somali Brits.

[iandi]

Don't forget also that in North America the sons and daughters of slaves have paid a high price to open up this society so that Somalis and others, my people included,can now take advantage of.

Quit rubbing AAs in our nose as if you're more closer to them than we're

Anyhow, in America, we're all reaping the fruits of the struggle put up by AAs and others, including white Americans.

Yes my people as well as yours benefit because of the struggles of the civil rights movement and yes both Black Americas and White Americans were involved....but mostly black americans.

Also the prevailing sentiment seems to be that muslims in the US seem to assimilate better as americans than their counterparts in europe which will certainly afford those in the US better opportunities to progress in this society. Although clearly there are still pockets of radicals that exist here in the US as well.