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Long article but worth a read.

It was just after 8am on 6 November 2014 when Faiza Hassan Ahmed knocked on her neighbour’s door. Violet Nantayiro did not know her, but Faiza was obviously distressed. She let her in and tried to comfort her. Faiza said a man had attempted to rape her, and asked Nantayiro if she would ring the police on her behalf.

Nantayiro did know that 31-year-old Faiza had been up much of the night. She had heard people chatting and music playing until 3am in the flat upstairs. Faiza told Nantayiro that she had been drinking with her boyfriend and his friend until the early hours. She said her boyfriend had recently gone to work, and she had gone to bed, where she was sexually assaulted by his friend.

A few minutes later, police officers arrived at the address in Limehouse, east London. By 9.30am the officers had left, after a tense encounter, without taking a statement. One day later, Faiza Ahmed was dead.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016 ... attenstone

So she took her own life?

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jalaaludin5 wrote:So she took her own life?

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Yep. I came across it by chance. I suffer from the same illness. It angered me so much.

Wow.That was an amazing and very heavy read.They failed her on so many levels. That broke my heart.Pissed me off too.

Tuushi wrote:Wow.That was an amazing and very heavy read.They failed her on so many levels.

It's the norm unfortunately. MH services in this country are really poor and add to that, she's Black. A lot of things are poor. The jobcentre for example are known to be incompetent and give everyone a hard time - illness or no illness.

Tuushi wrote:Wow.That was an amazing and very heavy read.They failed her on so many levels. That broke my heart.Pissed me off too.

Do you think dhaqn celis would have done a better job than the psychiatrist?

how does a psychiatrist relate to someone from a different background, culture and religion? Assuming they are white and using a text book that doesn't cover the complex mind of a cultured xalimo.
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jalaaludin5 wrote:

Tuushi wrote:Wow.That was an amazing and very heavy read.They failed her on so many levels. That broke my heart.Pissed me off too.

Do you think dhaqn celis would have done a better job than the psychiatrist?

how does a psychiatrist relate to someone from a different background, culture and religion? Assuming they are white and using a text book that doesn't cover the complex mind of a cultured xalimo.
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No.Dhaqan celis cant be a substitute for psychiatric need.This poor girl seems neglected.Whoever diagnosed her first with a personality disorder didnt help.Dhaqan celis/Quran saar cant help with mental illness.Wish we Somalis accepted that.

What is cultured xaliimo?

AnigaiyoAdiga wrote:

Tuushi wrote:Wow.That was an amazing and very heavy read.They failed her on so many levels.

It's the norm unfortunately. MH services in this country are really poor and add to that, she's Black. A lot of things are poor. The jobcentre for example are known to be incompetent and give everyone a hard time - illness or no illness.

I think the prejudice too.Criminal record,weed etc.All tainted her chance of anyone thinking she is worth.We live in a fucked up world.

poor girl, Allah o nahareesto. a lot of missed apportunities to safe her.

Tuushi wrote:

jalaaludin5 wrote:

Tuushi wrote:Wow.That was an amazing and very heavy read.They failed her on so many levels. That broke my heart.Pissed me off too.

Do you think dhaqn celis would have done a better job than the psychiatrist?

how does a psychiatrist relate to someone from a different background, culture and religion? Assuming they are white and using a text book that doesn't cover the complex mind of a cultured xalimo.
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No.Dhaqan celis cant be a substitute for psychiatric need.This poor girl seems neglected.Whoever diagnosed her first with a personality disorder didnt help.Dhaqan celis/Quran saar cant help with mental illness.Wish we Somalis accepted that.

What is cultured xaliimo?

I might be wrong here but, communication between a psychiatrist and his patient is crucial to understanding the problem. Engaging his/her patient and getting them to open up and talk about their problems is at the heart of psychiatry, right? The sister in question is Somali. Her background culture and religion will play an important part. Yes she lives in the west and in more way most probably became westernised, but and is a big BUT....can a psychiatrist adequately treat such patient without having a prior knowledge of her background? How does the psychiatrist reconcile her Somali upbringing and what's been covered in the text they use?

Call me a geeljire, but to me it seem one has to sacrifice a lot to see eye to eye with a psychiatrist that cannot relate to them and their particular needs. Will a Psychiatrist respect the parental/family expectations of a Somali girl who is seen as someone who "lost her way"? Will the advice and guidance they offer consider and respect the religious obligation and cultural expectations of their patient?

ps...by cultured xalimo/faarax I mean those that are westernized to the point where Dhaqan celis is a must.
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Stomach churning tale. Illaah SWT ha u naxariisto. We humans are either a functioning psychos, or those who gave up and can no longer function in a hypocrite society.

One AUN to the girl

But where was her family she had 5 sisters and a mum your telling they couldn't stage an invention.. she needed to be save earlier.
Reading from that article I don't think she her depression was known to her GP
I'm with jalal a month or two back home would of done the trick some times change of scenery is all you need. I think that would of done her the world of good to see the positives in life when you see real proverty you count your blessings.

Psychology iyo medicine don't work for me personally I never got that whole talk about your feelings bullocks for someone to disect my inner most thought its something that don't work for me both times I've been offered therapy not due to mental health but sometthing completely different I rejected it even tho I was forced to go in my teens told the woman to get on her bike

my mum is my therapist I don't need some middle class cadaan lady try a be my friend. We have nothing in common so she couldn't work on me because I sat in silence for the sessions till she called it off


Depression is a big thing in our community yet we keep it hidden

MujahidAishah wrote:One AUN to the girl

But where was her family she had 5 sisters and a mum your telling they couldn't stage an invention.. she needed to be save earlier.
Reading from that article I don't think she her depression was known to her GP
I'm with jalal a month or two back home would of done the trick some times change of scenery is all you need. I think that would of done her the world of good to see the positives in life when you see real proverty you count your blessings.

Psychology iyo medicine don't work for me personally I never got that whole talk about your feelings bullocks for someone to disect my inner most thought its something that don't work for me both times I've been offered therapy not due to mental health but sometthing completely different I rejected it even tho I was forced to go in my teens told the woman to get on her bike

my mum is my therapist I don't need some middle class cadaan lady try a be my friend. We have nothing in common so she couldn't work on me because I sat in silence for the sessions till she called it off


Depression is a big thing in our community yet we keep it hidden

Am with you on all that...." IT'S GOOD TO TALK" palaver. A false sense of security that leads to you sharing your inner most thoughts and feelings. Empty yourself and leave just with the shell is something Muslims shouldn't entertain. Which is why I mentioned religion and the role it can play in the management of their psychiatric disorder.

Si daacad ah baad iga qoslisay

I knew inaad qac tahay but I never knew in lagu yiri....go see a psychiatrist ka gura waxa kugu jira (jk)
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I kno im qaac but it was counselling not the proper wacko jacko type. .. waa bug all this confidentiality nonsense if it's confidential why you writing for???

I drove that white woman up the wall she thought she thought dealing with the typical somali girls.. she passed me over to anger management since i wont talk about the root and causes of the anger I need to manage my outburst what another load of bullocks that was but at least I missed french

It's all why this why that

Fuck off

MujahidAishah wrote:I kno im qaac but it was counselling not the proper wacko jacko type. .. waa bug all this confidentiality nonsense if it's confidential why you writing for???

I drove that white woman up the wall she thought she thought dealing with the typical somali girls.. she passed me over to anger management since i wont talk about the root and causes of the anger I need to manage my outburst what another load of bullocks that was but at least I missed french

It's all why this why that

Fuck off

Anger management can work. If you willing to participate. Up to a point. Its fun to take part in the role plays and all that imagined different scenarios.

Here is one for you Aisha...

You at home and you husband is sleeping. There is a knock at the door and you go to open it only to find a sexy white chick asking for your husband.

what do you do?

Hint...no violence
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