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Slavery & our Reformation imperative: "I lower my head in shame"

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Shame :meles: Shame

I lower my head in shame. And unless we reform entire chunks of our religon, including what has been established dogma for centuries, then We, the neigh 2 billion Muslims living on this planet are entirely complicit and guilty-by-way-of-legacy in the most disgusting institution mankind has ever invented, that of slavery: owning, buying, & selling human beings like they were livestock, an institution that strips away the humanity of both the victim(slaves) and the criminals(slaveowners), by it's mere existence.

I keep coming back to this subject, the painfully sordid and horrifically tragic subject of slavery. Just when I thought I left it behind, when I've done all the reading on it I possibly could, from both Arabic & English sources, it still haunts me, it still taunts me. For the entirety of my heritage, culture, & tradition as a Muslim and as a Somali is soaked with the blood, cries, and tears of millions of men, women, and children stolen from their homes, brutalized into submission, ..........and ALL of this is and was taking place not only in the name of my faith, but also with the (supposed) assent of my Creator, Almighty Ebbe Sareeye, tacaalalaahu camaa yaqooloona culuwan kabeera( May Allah be ever exalted from the lies they spew(in his name) a lofty exaltation)

So I lower my head in shame and in disgrace. It would be one thing, if my beoble, Beesha Soomali Maxamed, and my beoble, Beesha Muslin-wayn(neigh 2 billion and counting) would've confronted and ended this dehumanizing practice a long time ago, if we would have accepted the premise that ALL religions evolve & reform and that ours is no different, that just because early Muslims practice slavery does not bound us to their medieval ethics & values where it was ok to chop off heads or burn "others" alive(like Ali bin Abi Talib done did), but no, we insist that we are perfect, that our religion is perfect and we lower a dark cloak of denial & refusal over all aspects of our religion(or at least our understanding of it) that is in need of dire reform.

Deny, deny, deny; Refuse, refuse, refuse. We refuse to discuss it, refuse to acknowledge it; and when we are forced to confront it by a pesky little reformer like Leftist, we can just call him an apostate or a crazy man, right?

Refusniks, we are.

But I, Leftist Jid-Toosiye, of Beesha Soomali-weyn, will not rest until this subject is given the attention & respect it so urgently deserves and until a massive Reformation sweeps across the Muslim world, gees ka gees; a Reformation that will wipe away centuries of entrenched racism, misogyny & sectarianism, that was foisted on us by ignorant men(including some saxabah) and which we, like so many placid bovine-cattle, dutifully passed down from generation to generation in the false name of: "God sayeth so" and "God wills it!", while the rest of the world evolved, advanced, and left us behind in the dust of dhulinimo, back-ass-ward regression and blood-soaked infantile sectarianism(we go heaven! you go hell! hahahahhahahaha).

Fuck that. Not if I have anything to do with it. I'mma bang on this drum so hard and so loud that the Official Gatekeepers of the Deen will have no choice but to issue a "revision" and announce that from heretofore, slavery is abolished in Islam even if it may have been practiced by various Prophets/messengers/saxabah/ or whomever. Haajar was a slave to Nabi Ibrahim? Ok, so what? He lived according to the mores and values of his time where slavery was seen as normal, but as we human beings have evolved and continue to evolve, so has our morality evolved and will continue to evolve, and as such, we will reform our various religions & belief-systems to accommodate this new higher plane of morality that we have reached, and implement whatever revisions, small or large, that are needed; traditionalists and traditionalism be damned. To all ye peddlers of the literalist-dogma creed/aqeedah, I say this: Your false sacred cows(dogma, tradition, sectarianism), will be sacrificed at the altar of reason, rationality , and ever-evolving morality, and it will be done for the betterment and benefit of all of humanity.

This, I hereby swear,
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Re: Slavery & our Reformation imperative: "I lower my head in shame"

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To put how low we have fallen(and continue to fall) in our pigheaded refusal to reform & evolve in stark relief, I present you this headline from Reddit's frontpage:
TIL(Today I Learned) In 1833, Britain used 40% of it's national budget to buy freedom for all slaves in the Empire
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/ ... ?limit=500

In 1785, English poet William Cowper wrote:

We have no slaves at home – Then why abroad?
Slaves cannot breathe in England; if their lungs
Receive our air, that moment they are free.
They touch our country, and their shackles fall.
That's noble, and bespeaks a nation proud.
And jealous of the blessing. Spread it then,
And let it circulate through every vein
:meles: I lower my head in shame


So the average English who lived 200 years ago has a higher morality than the vast majority of "mainstream" scholars/clerics/ulema living today, in 2016, who continue to insist that slavery cannot be abolished because it was practiced by prophets, messengers, and early Muslims.

Even with all the evil committed by the British Empire(which is no different than the evil committed by the various Caliphates, including the Rashidun, Empire-building = Greed, theft, Lust, Subjugation), they can truly raise their head with pride and say: "Not only did we abolish slavery 2 centuries ago, but we launched a global crusade to end slavery; We went to war with the fierce Boer of South Africa because of slavery and crushed them because they wanted to hold onto slavery; we forced the entire Muslim world from the Ottoman Empire to the Zanzibar/Omani Sultanate to the Gulf Khaleeji Bedouins to the North African pirates to end slavery or face the wrath of HRM Royal Navy"

But what do we Muslims say to that? When almost all(except for a few brave reformers) of our clerics/scholars/ulema refuse to abolish slavery as well as other regressive medieval practices like: stoning adultery & chopping off the hands of thieves, what do we say to that?

Nothing but to lower our head in shame :meles:

And then rise back up and enact the necessary changes required by the Reformation so that we have a chance of once again leading the world in virtue & tolerance.

We cannot change the past, but we can change the course of our future, by enacting painful but necessary changes to our present and now.

.........because the Reformation is not just a option, it is an absolute imperative if we are to have any chance of being anything but the bottom of the barrel of humanity.

Rahit Sulinder: "Yeah, we're building 3 more satellites this year, and hope to have our own space station in 30 years"

Avi Goldman: "yeah, we're exporting our cutting-edge desalination technology to the very people who want to "wipe us from the map". Why? Because our values & ethics demand that we help those in need, even if they vow almost daily, comically & ineffectually, to "throw us back into the sea"

Shaykh Umul: "All apostates must die! waa in xadka la marseeyaa"

Shaykh Bin Baz: "The Earth is flat as pancake, because it says so the Quran, KTHXBYE"

Shaykh Calool-Wayne: "After a fierce 10 year debate, we have reached the conclusion that eating the meat of hyena is......*drumroll please*.......halal!

Kaafiye/Mailman(Super-wadaad #1): "We need to keep our bloodlines pure and so we must forcibly expel all the Negroid Bantus that have been living in Somalis for centuries back to the Central lakes area from whence they came from. Of course, let's not forget that I am a highly moral person. Why? Because I am a Muslim and I go heaven and you go hell!!! you gaal!!

Gerigoor/Udun:(Super-wadaad #2): "Instead of raising a strong cohesive family and being a productive member of this great city Columbus and this great state Ohio that has welcomed me when I came here as a penniless refugee, I will go to Africa and use my newly acquired status & money(courtesy of the Ohioan taxpayer) to prey on the ignorance & poverty and desperate life & economic situation of young muslimahs so that they can be my 2nd and 3rd wives. My role model in this is Shaykh Dabcasar who bagged not one but two Syrian wives. Such is the power of the blue passport when waved in front of poverty-stricken refugeees. Let's not forget that me and my role model are very moral and and very religious and that we will go to heaven but all of my neighbors will burn in hell because they are gaalo"

I can't go on any further, the stupidity of the average traditionalist/literalist/Orthodoxist is so painfully obvious that you can't even write a biting satire about it, like damn homie. I mean, how in the f-king fuck, does Udun/gerigoor think he has any chance of going to heaven, but all the taxpayers who saved his refugee futo from a lifetime of poverty in Dadaab/ifo are going to hell? Just somebody please help me understand this one.
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Re: Slavery & our Reformation imperative: "I lower my head in shame"

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Let me ask you a question, the conduct of the Prophet SAWS was not progressive by western standards so where do you stand on his attitudes to slavery, 'child' marriage, treatment of the Jewish Medina tribes that were defeated? You criticise Islamic scholars for remaining silent on issues such as slavery, separation of Muslims from non Muslims, Islamic Laws on Zina when they are mostly following a precedent set by the Prophet SAWS and the Quran hence why I have directed that question to you.
http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtop ... 0&start=45

Still waiting for an answer dude, you belatedly promised you would open a thread to address this question.
Leftist wrote:^^ sorry for the delay in replying; not only will I answer it, but I'll create a new thread to answer it in-depth. It was a great question and one that needs to be answered thoroughly, as many people(clerics/shuyookh including) are in total ignorance of it.
http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtop ... 6&start=15
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^^ Zumaale, thats my bad; since the question you posed is a theologically-heavy subject, I wanted to make sure that my answer was waterproof and that I had suffient adila from the kitaab and the sunnah; too often, many "traditionalists" reject "alternative" opinions as the result of "ah'waa"(misguided opinions), but I believe that reformers like Adnan Ibrahim are actually more in accordance with both the letter & spirit of the message of Nabi Muxamaed: a message of mercy, moderation, & tolerance to all of mankind(wamaa arsalnaaka ilaa raxmatin lil caalimeen". Point being, I wanted to have enough scholarly ammunition so that you(or others) could not dismiss my position as "jeebkaada wax aa kala soo baxday", and then I got busy with life and chasing my daily bread.

I promise I will respond to your question, in detail, in due time. bookmarking this and the other thread too and I've added a reminder on my phone.
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You seem to criticise the Sahaba for their 'wicked' ways yet you refuse to answer a simple question. Clearly you are ducking the question dude. It is simple, during the life of the Prophet SAWS, there occurred events which are out of tune with the 'modernist' values that you espouse yet you do not dare critique them. I am not asking you to engage in theological research. I am simply asking you what is your stance on the conduct of the Prophet SAWS in regard to chid marriage (Aisha RAC), enslavement (Banu Qurayza Women) etc?
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When Leftist left Dadaab and disembarked from the plane, he was overwhelmed and astonished at the brilliance and magnificence of Western civilization. Here was a culture that promoted secularism, greed, homosexuality etc. For Leftist this was heaven on earth; a dream come true.

He shook his head and rubbed his eyes in disbelief, no more he said. No more. Leftist felt liberated and unfettered from the chains of morality, logic and human decency. He trembled in delight, all those dark desires which he so desperately coveted could now be finally fulfilled! Leftist could now, for the first time in his life, become what he always envisioned. His deepest and wildest wish was granted. He was now free as a bird.

Leftist took a deep breath, with tears flowing down his cheeks he made a vow.

"From today I dedicate my whole life to spreading the message of houseniggerism
and living by its sacred tenets"
An excerpt from: 'The times and life of Leftist, America's first Somali Uncle Tom'

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TheGrumpyGeeljire wrote:
When Leftist left Dadaab and disembarked from the plane, he was overwhelmed and astonished at the brilliance and magnificence of Western civilization. Here was a culture that promoted secularism, greed, homosexuality etc. For Leftist this was heaven on earth; a dream come true.

He shook his head and rubbed his eyes in disbelief, no more he said. No more. Leftist felt liberated and unfettered from the chains of morality, logic and human decency. He trembled in delight, all those dark desires which he so desperately coveted could now be finally fulfilled! Leftist could now, for the first time in his life, become what he always envisioned. His deepest and wildest wish was granted. He was now free as a bird.

Leftist took a deep breath, with tears flowing down his cheeks he made a vow.

"From today I dedicate my whole life to spreading the message of houseniggerism
and living by its sacred tenets"
An excerpt from: 'The times and life of Leftist, America's first Somali Uncle Tom'

Author: Pastor Mannings

Retail price: 4.99 $

:lol: :lol:



- born and raised State-side; I have nothing but respect for people who underwent a refugee experience, but if any former refugees, after being fed, clothed, and educated by the taxpayers becomes an ungrateful ingrate, that respect turns into contempt and disdain.

- I find your attempt to portray me as a Uncle Tom hilarious, because my arrogance & temper is something I struggle with everyday. Earlier, in my initial post, I literally wrote: "I consider myself the equal(or better) of any man that ever lived and will not take a backseat to anyone when it comes to enacting change" And God's honest truth is that I do, but I realized that would make me look incredibly conceited, so I erased it.

So yeah, that was funny and creative, but falls flat in terms of accuracy.
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TheGrumpyGeeljire wrote:
When Leftist left Dadaab and disembarked from the plane, he was overwhelmed and astonished at the brilliance and magnificence of Western civilization. Here was a culture that promoted secularism, greed, homosexuality etc. For Leftist this was heaven on earth; a dream come true.

He shook his head and rubbed his eyes in disbelief, no more he said. No more. Leftist felt liberated and unfettered from the chains of morality, logic and human decency. He trembled in delight, all those dark desires which he so desperately coveted could now be finally fulfilled! Leftist could now, for the first time in his life, become what he always envisioned. His deepest and wildest wish was granted. He was now free as a bird.

Leftist took a deep breath, with tears flowing down his cheeks he made a vow.

"From today I dedicate my whole life to spreading the message of houseniggerism
and living by its sacred tenets"
An excerpt from: 'The times and life of Leftist, America's first Somali Uncle Tom'

Author: Pastor Mannings

Retail price: 4.99 $
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Uncle Ruckus aka Leftist Doing What He Does Best in NAACP EVENT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCVrZ10tFT0
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Leftist,

Your understanding of Islam is abysmal. Before you start opening that diarrhea af of yours please take the time to read on the subject first.

Sometimes i feel like this is the reason why Surah Iqra was revealed first :pac:
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Uncle Ruckus Law of Dodging questions:

- Leave the thread
- Don't visit Snet for couple of weeks
- Start another thread.
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Re: Slavery & our Reformation imperative: "I lower my head in shame"

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Nothing wrong with slavery. It is Humans like always who mess things up. Slave humans and the Masters/Slavers. I approve slavery. :eat:
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I didn't get what this guy was saying. Was he saying Muslims (all 2 billion of them) were responsible for the slavery?

Maybe it would have been nice if he posted some links.
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AirBitaale wrote:Uncle Ruckus Law of Dodging questions:

- Leave the thread
- Don't visit Snet for couple of weeks
- Start another thread.
:dead:

Uncle Ruckus needs the bi-weekly attention that he gets from SNET. He is very disappointed that the bogus 'reformation' has been busted before it even begun. That No Somali would tolerate his crap, and that some of the lifestyles that he has adopted are incompatible with our way of life. Bottom line, uncle ruckus is venting.
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gegiroor wrote:
AirBitaale wrote:Uncle Ruckus Law of Dodging questions:

- Leave the thread
- Don't visit Snet for couple of weeks
- Start another thread.
:dead:

Uncle Ruckus needs the bi-weekly attention that he gets from SNET. He is very disappointed that the bogus 'reformation' has been busted before it even begun. That No Somali would tolerate his crap, and that some of the lifestyles that he has adopted are incompatible with our way of life. Bottom line, uncle ruckus is venting.
He can vent as much as he likes, but we ain't buying what he is selling. :eat:
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