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first ISIS camp in northeastren somalia!

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Daesh in coastal north somalia is an imminent danger bc it's very close to southeastren yemen controlled by them an alqaida who until now coexist with eachother unlike of other fronts in the middle east and fghanistan

Al shabaab attempt to disloge them from north has stumbled at coastal mudug

Daesh has also fertile ground in the sawahili coasts and lower juba and so it may spread to the south from from there

Theres clan division in al shabaab who had three amir from one clan since it's creation (ismail arale, godane and and any ubayda!)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 74476.html

There maybe a hope for the north as jihadists lost recently mukkala post for pro-hadi tribal forces with aerial support from saudi arabia

This come after they started backstabbing the govt forces who r atacking the houthis wich has given Iran a chance...

Iran supports Taliban against ISIS so she thinks she can repeat the same scenario in Yemen!

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Somali isis puntlander leader abdulqadir mumin appears in this video by the end. Looks like he received their first aid
https://akhbardawlatalislam3.wordpress. ... %82%D8%A7/
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lol, do you actully even know georgaphy???, northeast is every far from yemani costline, sland and djibouti are closer but that entire stretch of water is heavily gaurded by all of the world navies, they won't spread because they have no local support is the entire northern horn, the support they have is in south zoomalia

even then they can't simply sail when the sea is so heavily fortified
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North somalis is where majority of terrorism is exported under the guise of tribalism.
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It's challenging because puntland government have no enough capacity to deal well organised jihadi suicide attacks in the long term. Put its hard for the Jihadis to easisly integrate Puntland people as they do in the south. That's one big advantage for the government. If puntlanders keep resisting Amisom deployments and support their own army, They will never fall for Alshabaab or ISIS. Kullu fidna cindal junuud al ejnebiya.
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We don't have leniency and support for the khawarij bastards in Puntland like they do in the South. We stamp out the filthy terrorists everywhere they try to pop up and go into Puntland like they did in Garacad and before that in the Mountains

This is why they run to Yemen or Koonfur because we're relentless in destroying these scum and they find it easy going in those regions

Now compare this to the South were they have massive support and they let filthy Bantus, Pakis, Afghans, or anybody that wears a khamis and grows a beard basically walk in and take their women and lands because they're so stupid to fall for the waxaad card.

The same idiots that are screaming about Puntland 24/7 are watching as their lands are taken over by foreigners yet all they can think about is PL This PL That

It's a bloody disgrace Koonfur Somalia pretty soon the place will resemble Lamu and Zanzibar
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These scums have been thriving in the Galgala mountains before ISIS was created.

Them changing their allegiance and their uniform is not a surprise. Different shirt for every occasion.

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Snailland12 wrote:lol, do you actully even know georgaphy???, northeast is every far from yemani costline, sland and djibouti are closer but that entire stretch of water is heavily gaurded by all of the world navies, they won't spread because they have no local support is the entire northern horn, the support they have is in south zoomalia

even then they can't simply sail when the sea is so heavily fortified
kkkkk And you don't know the difference between the gulf of aden wich your mistaken for the Arabian sea where al qaida controls!

I actually consider PL as east but galgala though it's located in bari is part of makhir, in the northeast, therefore PL is closer to hadramout, mahra, Oman and the UAE

Puntland is located parralel to djibouti as you can see from the map, but SL and djibouti r closer to Aden and mecca (qiblah,waqooyi)
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You mostly think that southren yemen will be a country one day but it's hadramout who will be annexed by Saudi Arabia someday as Iran is threatening bab al madhab by controlling sanaa...it will have a local amir. So that's the reason the Saudi loyal tribes r advancing in this region against al Qaida who lost a week ago the port of mukala

http://www.ye1.org/forum/threads/794360/page-4

http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtop ... 0&t=366820
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Yh, everyone wants a piece of yeman, as it has huge geopolitical benefits
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/I am wondering who is behind this franchise of ISIS.
The ones in Iraq/Syria are fake, and are led by foriegn interests.

who is behind this one?
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Sahel,

I know Ismail Arale and Godane, who is the third emir?
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Siciid85 wrote:Sahel,

I know Ismail Arale and Godane, who is the third emir?
it's current amir is called abu ubayda (ahmed diriye) from gaadsan, dir. Hes cousin of godane from one side

Most people wrongly assume that Adam cayrow was its first Amir..adan cayrow was its military leader and he played fundemental role in its creation. He is the guy who captured yeey in boosaaso in the early 90s but released him bc of the late sheikh abdulqadir gacameey (killed al shabab as ictisam leader) who asked for this since hes a local sheikh who knows how this may...

This guy has conquered the whole of xamar except one street from baraawe

He also fought against the US forces in mogadishu

He was issuing the statements and the movement political positions publically while godane and was unknown...in his era al shabab was cooperating with eritrea, there was ONLF and OLF who got expelled after his death

Godane has become the Amir simply bc the isaaq group had al qaida connections like the al libi, so by controlling the financial network they imposed themselves on the movement not bc they made the army like cayroow, hassan turkey and abu mansour

So when one does or gets captured the other one replaces him bc he has the foreing network!

That's why al shabab is not willing to join ISIS bc of the leadership who r connected with al qaida

I hope you get it! It's a clan organization!

Abdulqadir mumin has now ISIS keys, if he does he will be replaced by another cali saleebaan or atleast another harti!

Warubul kacba I said to someone when there was remours of godane death he will be replaced by his clan. This guy said to me after, subhanallah how did you know it? I laughed and said to him it's not different than SNM

Godane has first arrived the imam shafici military camp in mogadishu established by cayroow

At that time godana had no real power in al shabab except being called "the sheikh" while cayrow was called the mucalim (it doesn't mean teacher, it means hogaamiye in its spiritual sense)

So cayroows official name was رييس مكتب الدفاع which is some sort of minister of war

So cayrow had real control from barawe to xamar, his clan bases

Abu mansour in baay and bakool

Hassan tarki in kismayo(madobe is his brother in law thats why he trusted him)

So godana was their Amir without having real control in the movement due to his clan background

When cayrow was killed godane had a plan to control hawiye so he made mahad karataay closer (he's HG sheegato) he made him the head of amniyaat. This group will later change everything even hassan dahir was forced to be silent

And then godane has put every wali under any ubayda( والى الولات) kinda intetior...He controlled the movement through these guys

Finally he was able to kill every leader who challenged him

Naive people were expecting karataay to replace him not abu ubayda kkkk

There were rumours of karataay linking himself with ISIS after his disappointment...Abu cubayda is weak not like godane so karataay challenges him most of the time until he accepted him as partner where he takes his opinion

Notice: I'm not saying isaaq r dir or not, just how they work together in the south besides any cubayda and godane are close relatives

شباب المجاهدين مقاطعتهم لمؤتمر أسمرا وتبرؤهم من الشيخ شريف وكان في طليعة أؤلائك النفر الشيخ آدم حاشي عيرو رحمه الله، عمل بجد لدحر الأعداء وتولى الشيخ إدارة شؤون الحرب و كان النائب الأول للشيخ مختار أبو الزبير أمير حركة الشباب المجاهدين حفظه.
http://www.muslm.org/vb/archive/index.php/t-318523.html

http://m.voanews.com/a/somalia_al_shaba ... 33919.html
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Sahal, how do we get rid of these Shabab/ISIS without creating mooryaans in their place? theres no Islamic group that can challenge them and these dawlads are controlled by foriegners. Theres hope that Isis can be defeated in the Puntland and Galmudug, but alshabab is very hard.

A disciplined SNA would be able to, but most of the time they end up fueling qabiil wars like in lower shabelle.
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JamalAddow wrote:Sahal, how do we get rid of these Shabab/ISIS without creating mooryaans in their place? theres no Islamic group that can challenge them and these dawlads are controlled by foriegners. Theres hope that Isis can be defeated in the Puntland and Galmudug, but alshabab is very hard.

A disciplined SNA would be able to, but most of the time they end up fueling qabiil wars like in lower shabelle.
al shabab can be defeated if you fix the root of the evil; statelessness

It begins with good governance that the people can trust them, for example the askari that makes isbaaro doesn't get wages so to stop the isbaaro you must paid then, to get the funds you must the fight the corruption to eradicate the corruption completely you must have good leaders or remove head of the fasaad!

Once you done that you should make clan reconciliations bc they get support in the marginalized and aggrieved clans

The US govt has always warned kenya from her one subclan project....there used to be meetings in nairobi between the US, Kenyan, officials from kismayo admin and folks from the office of yuulka but abdi shire and barre hiiraale group have backstabbed yuulka by siding with the garguurte wing. Instead of making the deal with yuulka when he was in kismayo that made the deal with the garguurte group like farah, gabre and halane!

Now abdishire has made agreement with madobe! This could have been done for long time and with a better conditions!

Anyways kenya has changed after the ceelcade massacre!

They told the admin to reach agreement with mx!

Even there is mx-kenya agreement!!

Make the same in lower shabelle, banadir

In hiiraan things r better now as gaaljecel themselves changed and tried from al shabaab who r after their camel

Hawadlaha markii hore qaab qaldan bay wax u maamili jireen sida in ciidan loo diro dhul gaaljecel ah....ciidanka saraakiil way ku leeyihiin laakiin ciidan kuma laha

during a reconciliation conference that was held 8 months ago, our diaspora intellecual folks have suggested to send tickets to the gaaljecel diaspora so they can dabar themselves within the maamul since the mayor is from them...we started with hiilwalaal but now they got ethiopians

Their militia have been welcomed in ceelcali, buq aqable etc and still there is on going training

These r their qurbo joog with their generals
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 5617648921

So we secured now big area

We can reach better than this but the corrupt garguurte govt in xamar is against this bc it fears from a unified clans and that this will enhance hiiraan positions in the federal process...what do you expect from such corrupt people?

Corrupt garguurte oo gaaljecel u balan qaadey generalo iyo safiiro hadii ay hawadle is dheeraadaan run bay noqotay. Waligaa iyo alahaa ma aragtey ugaas iyo wasiirka beesha oo generalnimo bixinaya
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 0286534773

Xaafad al shabaab ah...si aad I ogaatid in dawlada aysan amnigaan ka danbayn...xamar burbur iyo dibu dhac bay nagu haysaa
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I predicted this last year, IS will expand in Somalia as she provides no resistance against them
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sahal80 wrote:
Siciid85 wrote:Sahel,

I know Ismail Arale and Godane, who is the third emir?
it's current amir is called abu ubayda (ahmed diriye) from gaadsan, dir. Hes cousin of godane from one side

Most people wrongly assume that Adam cayrow was its first Amir..adan cayrow was its military leader and he played fundemental role in its creation. He is the guy who captured yeey in boosaaso in the early 90s but released him bc of the late sheikh abdulqadir gacameey (killed al shabab as ictisam leader) who asked for this since hes a local sheikh who knows how this may...

This guy has conquered the whole of xamar except one street from baraawe

He also fought against the US forces in mogadishu

He was issuing the statements and the movement political positions publically while godane and was unknown...in his era al shabab was cooperating with eritrea, there was ONLF and OLF who got expelled after his death

Godane has become the Amir simply bc the isaaq group had al qaida connections like the al libi, so by controlling the financial network they imposed themselves on the movement not bc they made the army like cayroow, hassan turkey and abu mansour

So when one does or gets captured the other one replaces him bc he has the foreing network!

That's why al shabab is not willing to join ISIS bc of the leadership who r connected with al qaida

I hope you get it! It's a clan organization!

Abdulqadir mumin has now ISIS keys, if he does he will be replaced by another cali saleebaan or atleast another harti!

Warubul kacba I said to someone when there was remours of godane death he will be replaced by his clan. This guy said to me after, subhanallah how did you know it? I laughed and said to him it's not different than SNM

Godane has first arrived the imam shafici military camp in mogadishu established by cayroow

At that time godana had no real power in al shabab except being called "the sheikh" while cayrow was called the mucalim (it doesn't mean teacher, it means hogaamiye in its spiritual sense)

So cayroows official name was رييس مكتب الدفاع which is some sort of minister of war

So cayrow had real control from barawe to xamar, his clan bases

Abu mansour in baay and bakool

Hassan tarki in kismayo(madobe is his brother in law thats why he trusted him)

So godana was their Amir without having real control in the movement due to his clan background

When cayrow was killed godane had a plan to control hawiye so he made mahad karataay closer (he's HG sheegato) he made him the head of amniyaat. This group will later change everything even hassan dahir was forced to be silent

And then godane has put every wali under any ubayda( والى الولات) kinda intetior...He controlled the movement through these guys

Finally he was able to kill every leader who challenged him

Naive people were expecting karataay to replace him not abu ubayda kkkk

There were rumours of karataay linking himself with ISIS after his disappointment...Abu cubayda is weak not like godane so karataay challenges him most of the time until he accepted him as partner where he takes his opinion

Notice: I'm not saying isaaq r dir or not, just how they work together in the south besides any cubayda and godane are close relatives

شباب المجاهدين مقاطعتهم لمؤتمر أسمرا وتبرؤهم من الشيخ شريف وكان في طليعة أؤلائك النفر الشيخ آدم حاشي عيرو رحمه الله، عمل بجد لدحر الأعداء وتولى الشيخ إدارة شؤون الحرب و كان النائب الأول للشيخ مختار أبو الزبير أمير حركة الشباب المجاهدين حفظه.
http://www.muslm.org/vb/archive/index.php/t-318523.html

http://m.voanews.com/a/somalia_al_shaba ... 33919.html
Wow my head was spinning reading that. You are indeed analyze of somalinet.

It is too bad quality people like Adan Xashi Ceyrow and Godane had to die. In perfect world, they would have useful
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