ABDI ILEY IS NOT MY TRUE REFLECTION

User avatar
balwarama
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1780
Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:50 am

ABDI ILEY IS NOT MY TRUE REFLECTION

Post by balwarama »

why do people assume that Ina Iley is a representative of the average Ogaden and his thinking when he wasnt elected by anyone neither was anybodys input sougtht in his appointment nor was his known in the regional politics prior to his appearance out of nowhere Im telling you guys the Tigrais have definitely hoodwinked us in this one they have been looking for someone like him all along thats why there has been before him as many regional presidents as the years of the Kilils existense
User avatar
Talo alle udaa
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 2739
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:03 pm
Location: Evaluating the African mind

Re: ABDI ILEY IS NOT MY TRUE REFLECTION

Post by Talo alle udaa »

Abdi Iley started out as an intelligence junior officer, a spy in essence, before being selected by meles zenawi for kilil5 leader. Since then has morphed into something we have not seen before. He seems to yield more power than the previous kilil5 presidents but Ethiopia of yesterday is also not the same as today. The TPLF hold on the leadership has weakened and meles zenawi was one of a kind leader which the Tigre have no replacement for.

It's difficult to guess how he will survive as many of his prior colleagues and friends are trying to replace him. He has made a strong connection with a major Tigre general based off Harar that is assigned to the eastern division of the Ethiopian armed forces.

I can tell you the overwhelming OG diaspora are anti-Ethiopia, however they are not as enthusiastic about the ONLF as they use to be as they have become somewhat disillusioned with the stagnation and lack of progress.

Ultimately, the destiny of the Somali ppl within the eastern region of Ethiopia will be determined by how neighboring Somalia turns out.
User avatar
balwarama
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1780
Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:50 am

Re: ABDI ILEY IS NOT MY TRUE REFLECTION

Post by balwarama »

Talo alle udaa wrote:Abdi Iley started out as an intelligence junior officer, a spy in essence, before being selected by meles zenawi for kilil5 leader. Since then has morphed into something we have not seen before. He seems to yield more power than the previous kilil5 presidents but Ethiopia of yesterday is also not the same as today. The TPLF hold on the leadership has weakened and meles zenawi was one of a kind leader which the Tigre have no replacement for.

It's difficult to guess how he will survive as many of his prior colleagues and friends are trying to replace him. He has made a strong connection with a major Tigre general based off Harar that is assigned to the eastern division of the Ethiopian armed forces.

I can tell you the overwhelming OG diaspora are anti-Ethiopia, however they are not as enthusiastic about the ONLF as they use to be as they have become somewhat disillusioned with the stagnation and lack of progress.

Ultimately, the destiny of the Somali ppl within the eastern region of Ethiopia will be determined by how neighboring Somalia turns out.
very articulate and educational indeed. Exactly how I thought!
User avatar
EEGA9
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1906
Joined: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:05 am

Re: ABDI ILEY IS NOT MY TRUE REFLECTION

Post by EEGA9 »

Ilay was a social reject with a tainted moral reputation. He was resentful and bitter towards those who stuck their nose up at him.

Symptoms common among murderous autocrats.
Malignant narcissism is a psychological syndrome comprising an extreme mix of narcissism, antisocial personality disorder, aggression, and sadism.[1] Often grandiose, and always ready to raise hostility levels, the malignant narcissist undermines organizations in which they are involved, and dehumanizes the people with whom they associate.[2]

Malignant narcissism is a hypothetical, experimental diagnostic category. Narcissistic personality disorder is found in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV-TR), while malignant narcissism is not. As a hypothetical syndrome, malignant narcissism could include aspects of narcissistic personality disorder as well as paranoia. The importance of malignant narcissism and of projection as a defense mechanism has been confirmed in paranoia, as well as "the patient's vulnerability to malignant narcissistic regression"
User avatar
luis1
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 2460
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:28 pm

Re: ABDI ILEY IS NOT MY TRUE REFLECTION

Post by luis1 »

I think Somalis and ONLF should accept Ethiopian rule and then Ogaden will be a quiet and safe place for every somali men, women and children.
User avatar
guhad122
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 4958
Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:59 pm
Location: Jubbaland, NFD and DDS!!!

Re: ABDI ILEY IS NOT MY TRUE REFLECTION

Post by guhad122 »

Talo alle udaa wrote:Abdi Iley started out as an intelligence junior officer, a spy in essence, before being selected by meles zenawi for kilil5 leader. Since then has morphed into something we have not seen before. He seems to yield more power than the previous kilil5 presidents but Ethiopia of yesterday is also not the same as today. The TPLF hold on the leadership has weakened and meles zenawi was one of a kind leader which the Tigre have no replacement for.

It's difficult to guess how he will survive as many of his prior colleagues and friends are trying to replace him. He has made a strong connection with a major Tigre general based off Harar that is assigned to the eastern division of the Ethiopian armed forces.

I can tell you the overwhelming OG diaspora are anti-Ethiopia, however they are not as enthusiastic about the ONLF as they use to be as they have become somewhat disillusioned with the stagnation and lack of progress.

Ultimately, the destiny of the Somali ppl within the eastern region of Ethiopia will be determined by how neighboring Somalia turns out.
The destiny of Ogaden region depends on Ogaden people ignoring the soft spots they have for anything Somali. The more I read about Somali history and the Somali clan structure, the more I realize that there is no such thing as Somali nationalism. Every Somali is driven by clan interest and clan interest can't coexist with national interest. When I was in Adis, I met with an OG hotel owner. Not your typical Somali hotel, but really beautiful and 4-star 10-story hotel. This dude spent a decade in jail because he was one of the two former ONLF fighers accused of shooting the iidoor Ethiopian ambassador CabdiMajiid dude...He regretted that he spent so many years in the bush for a struggle that was not there...Basically, since the collapse of the DERG, Ethiopia has been ours and we wasted that opportunity. Ina-Ileey may not be the perfect president but the freedom and the hope the OGs have in Ethiopia today is unparalleled. Hardcore former ONLF supporters are pouring thousands of their hard earned money into Jigjiga, Diredawa and Addis. They are not doing that for Kismaayo or Gaarisa for that matter? Again, I am not saying ina-ileey is a saint but there is a wind blowing and people are finally realizing that things aint that bad after all. I was one those people. Is there a room for improvement, you bet!
User avatar
EEGA9
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1906
Joined: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:05 am

Re: ABDI ILEY IS NOT MY TRUE REFLECTION

Post by EEGA9 »

:ufdup:

Image
User avatar
guhad122
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 4958
Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:59 pm
Location: Jubbaland, NFD and DDS!!!

Re: ABDI ILEY IS NOT MY TRUE REFLECTION

Post by guhad122 »

EEGA9 wrote::ufdup:

Image
EEGA,
ina-adeer, you and I always present different views on the Ogadenia issue, but there is no doubt we both want freedom for our people. Where our differences exist pertain to the timing of the struggle. I have never said ONLF should disband and surrender but let them reorganize, and strategize the next face of the struggle. Today, our biggest enemy is NOT Ethiopia but rather the subjugated Somalis. I don't know about you but the last straw for me was not iidoor selling our boys, or taxi-driver Faroole claiming that OGs are not Somalis. If you recall the Galguduud area, not the Mareexaan side, but Ceyr and Duduble environs such as Dhuusa Mareeb, Guriceel and the sarrounding villages where some of the last places in Somalia the freedom fighters could get refuge while preparing their next offenses against Wayane. There was a war near Shilaabo and over 40 wounded ONLF fighters were brought in Guriceel. Cirfo, the current governor of Galguduud, loaded them into a truck and told them he will take them a safe place where they will be provided for urgent medical care. Instead, he drove them to Matabaan to hand them to Ethiopian camp over there. Have you heard that? That same Cirfo now begs Ina-Ileey to take easy on the civilians and gets called in jigjiga routinely. You remember this famous ONLF soldier sweating, fearless, and dedicated to the cause?
Image
His older brother is in Jigjiga today running an entire organization and that sweat on the face of his younger brother is what provided him that opportunity. I have never discounted the blood of these freedom fighters. I just want them to have a bigger day where their struggle would have better chances! Does that make sense?
:mindblown: :mindblown:
User avatar
balwarama
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1780
Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:50 am

Re: ABDI ILEY IS NOT MY TRUE REFLECTION

Post by balwarama »

luis1 wrote:I think Somalis and ONLF should accept Ethiopian rule and then Ogaden will be a quiet and safe place for every somali men, women and children.
Are you ashamed of your Amhar identity, flower?
MayDay777
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1939
Joined: Fri May 06, 2016 1:24 pm

Re: ABDI ILEY IS NOT MY TRUE REFLECTION

Post by MayDay777 »

balwarama wrote:
luis1 wrote:I think Somalis and ONLF should accept Ethiopian rule and then Ogaden will be a quiet and safe place for every somali men, women and children.
Are you ashamed of your Amhar identity, flower?
He is Cuban lol
User avatar
balwarama
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1780
Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:50 am

Re: ABDI ILEY IS NOT MY TRUE REFLECTION

Post by balwarama »

somaliler wrote:
balwarama wrote:
luis1 wrote:I think Somalis and ONLF should accept Ethiopian rule and then Ogaden will be a quiet and safe place for every somali men, women and children.
Are you ashamed of your Amhar identity, flower?
He is Cuban lol
not really, he hides behind it. He is actually Amxaar!
User avatar
luis1
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 2460
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:28 pm

Re: ABDI ILEY IS NOT MY TRUE REFLECTION

Post by luis1 »

balwarama

not really, he hides behind it. He is actually Amxaar
I am Cuban but If you want to believe I am a Ethiopian, I do not care that.
User avatar
WaaSamane
Posts: 193
Joined: Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:40 pm

Re: ABDI ILEY IS NOT MY TRUE REFLECTION

Post by WaaSamane »

Exactly Mr. Guhad.
Ceasfire is about time.

Our guys are fighting with no siyaasad or w.s.e
User avatar
kanadiid90
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 2099
Joined: Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:46 pm

Re: ABDI ILEY IS NOT MY TRUE REFLECTION

Post by kanadiid90 »

how many foot per hour does a cagdheer travels if he's going at a speed of 60 cag/min while doing dhaanto?
sav12600
SomaliNetizen
SomaliNetizen
Posts: 683
Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:14 pm

Re: ABDI ILEY IS NOT MY TRUE REFLECTION

Post by sav12600 »

abdi ilay is the best thing that happened to ogaden,,,,,that region just a decade ago was only known for the horror stories that came out of it,,
and today its properly the most promising somali region out there, how do think that happened? go figure
Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “Ogaden - General Discussions”