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Why do somali families below poverty line produce babies?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 1:41 am
by PureQ
Why do families (especially from the older generation) from poverty line produce babies if they can't provide them financially or find themselves unpredictable if they're in a position where risky situation can occur.
Like famine/poverty stricken areas they live, war and refugee camps etc to name a few. I find it very hard to believe someone would condone having children where there's famine, war, death, destruction (and other 'nasties' around).
Discuss.
Re: Why do somali families below poverty line produce babies?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 2:13 am
by Siciid85
Your thinking process and perception is differs from theirs.
I was one of 8 kids and grew up in war, famine, and poverty all around but Alxamdulillah still made it.
Also we are Muslims, we have utmost trust in Allah' final plan. He tells us in the Quran to not stop having children out of fear of being unable to provide for them; for he has said "Naxnu Narsuqu kum, WA Iyyakum" or "Wa Iyaahum" in another Ayah.
Re: Why do somali families below poverty line produce babies?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 2:25 am
by Thuganomics
Risaq min Allah that's why
Re: Why do somali families below poverty line produce babies?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 2:28 am
by PureQ
Over 38,000 Somali children are at "high risk" from dying from starvation despite hunger levels improving by almost a third across the war-torn nation, UN experts said Thursday.
The grim assessment, based on the latest data collected by the UN, comes just over three years since intense drought and war sparked famine in the Horn of Africa nation, killing more than a quarter of a million people.
In total, over 731,000 people, including 203,000 children who are severely malnourished, face "acute food insecurity", according to a joint report released by the UN's Food Security and Nutrition Analysis Unit (FSNAU) and the US-funded Famine Early Warning Systems Network(FEWS NET).
Re: Why do somali families below poverty line produce babies?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 5:47 am
by BVSNet
So you want poor people to invest in condoms or abstain or have abortions or....?
On a practical level it's absurd
On an economic level if labour is what it takes to gain resources either on the family farm or collection of water or even employment then surely the more kids you have the better off you'd be and sine the mortality rate is so high you'd do well to have more as not all would survive to adulthood
Can you imagine what the world would look like if whenever a society faced hardship they stopped having kids? It's interesting that human beings tend to do the opposite; when we get some money then we see children as a cost and plan for a smaller unit
Re: Why do somali families below poverty line produce babies?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 6:18 am
by WaaSamane
Because Allah is He Who gives no matter your income.
You are thinking like a gaal..
We believe that you get More Barakah the more the children are.
Re: Why do somali families below poverty line produce babies?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 6:22 am
by millahjovich
Risaq min Allah that's why
Re: Why do somali families below poverty line produce babies?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 6:26 am
by Thuganomics
BVSNet wrote:So you want poor people to invest in condoms or abstain or have abortions or....?
On a practical level it's absurd
On an economic level if labour is what it takes to gain resources either on the family farm or collection of water or even employment then surely the more kids you have the better off you'd be and sine the mortality rate is so high you'd do well to have more as not all would survive to adulthood
Can you imagine what the world would look like if whenever a society faced hardship they stopped having kids? It's interesting that human beings tend to do the opposite; when we get some money then we see children as a cost and plan for a smaller unit
The OP's notion is based on some racist Malthusian crap that's been proven time and again to be bull crap.It has been proven like you stated that the opposite is true.They encourage non white countries to adopt this philosophy while they actually pay for European parents to have more children through such policies as the Child Benefit in the UK
It's interesting to note that per square mile Belgium is way more over populated than China but nobody encourages Belgium to adopt a one child policy do they
Re: Why do somali families below poverty line produce babies?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 6:50 am
by Inaayah
Waxa caloosha gelinaysid intaanad aduunkan lagu keenin bu Ilaahey qoray ba.
Ninki Ilaahey ku kalsoon wu cuni o wu cabi o waanu dadaali inta kale na Ilaahey bu ku dayn.
Re: Why do somali families below poverty line produce babies?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:43 am
by thehappyone
The irony is that poor mothers think having a lots of babies will get them out of poverty as they will all work when they grow up.
Re: Why do somali families below poverty line produce babies?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 10:25 am
by Gaashaanle1000
Thuganomics wrote:BVSNet wrote:So you want poor people to invest in condoms or abstain or have abortions or....?
On a practical level it's absurd
On an economic level if labour is what it takes to gain resources either on the family farm or collection of water or even employment then surely the more kids you have the better off you'd be and sine the mortality rate is so high you'd do well to have more as not all would survive to adulthood
Can you imagine what the world would look like if whenever a society faced hardship they stopped having kids? It's interesting that human beings tend to do the opposite; when we get some money then we see children as a cost and plan for a smaller unit
The OP's notion is based on some racist Malthusian crap that's been proven time and again to be bull crap.It has been proven like you stated that the opposite is true.They encourage non white countries to adopt this philosophy while they actually pay for European parents to have more children through such policies as the Child Benefit in the UK
It's interesting to note that per square mile Belgium is way more over populated than China but nobody encourages Belgium to adopt a one child policy do they
I agree
Another thing is that whites seem to be less fertile than most other ethnic groups, so they have this in built fear of being overrun by blacks, browns and yellows
Re: Why do somali families below poverty line produce babies?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 1:03 pm
by SANDIEGUY
Every child comes with its own rizq. Allah will provide for them
Re: Why do somali families below poverty line produce babies?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 2:26 pm
by hangool79
somalis need to learn family planning, it's nothing islamical about having 10 children and not caring properly for them, no wonder so many grow up poor, become criminal losers. I wish dumb somalis had 0 children, the deadbeat father, the dumb xalimo chattin on phone 24 hours is what creates a loser.
Having many children and poverty is correlated, in every western country somalis are on the bottom on society, caydh is a form of begging, how wise is it to continue producing children in that state
Re: Why do somali families below poverty line produce babies?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 2:31 pm
by MujahidAishah
Big families are mashallah I'm tryna have 12 inshallah
Re: Why do somali families below poverty line produce babies?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 3:03 pm
by Gaashaanle1000
hangool79 wrote:somalis need to learn family planning, it's nothing islamical about having 10 children and not caring properly for them, no wonder so many grow up poor, become criminal losers. I wish dumb somalis had 0 children, the deadbeat father, the dumb xalimo chattin on phone 24 hours is what creates a loser.
Having many children and poverty is correlated, in every western country somalis are on the bottom on society, caydh is a form of begging, how wise is it to continue producing children in that state
Allah has created enough resources for all people. You are confusing these corrupt western social constructs that have been artificially propped up in order to make you into a debt/wage slaves your entire life with reality. Allah has told us not to fear poverty in regards to our children, but we also have to work to free ourselves from the shackles put on us. Each child brings his own provisions and power to the table, and if he/she is brought up by moral parents offers an opportunity for a better and more sane tomorrow.
I say the more children the better. But to be honest I would advise against having children in western countries, have them back home and before you do prepare a good life for yourself back there