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Soros predicting another economic collapse?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:41 pm
by Rambie
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A self-styled philanthropist, billionaire, and disruptor of legitimately elected governments, George Soros has returned to the trading game after having taken a long break. George Soros, who enjoys spreading unnecessary market turmoil and unhappiness in markets and politics, has decided that the world needs some more economic collapse stories. Hint: It may be time to get into gold soon, because even if Soros is wrong on economic collapse, he has the financial firepower to make it happen if he needs it.

He’s happy to oblige and he’s coming in like the Russian bear that he dislikes so much. As an image, picture the swift Russian invasion of Georgia in 2008 in the wake of the Rose Revolution, funded in part through Soros’ Open Society Institute (OSI). Indeed, treat the very name “Soros” as a warning. Something bad—political or financial—is about to happen somewhere that will make the markets crash. After all, Soros loves economic collapse narratives; they are his favorite. George Soros, who once made more than a billion pounds (a lot of money then) betting against the GBP and “breaking” the Bank of England, conceded that, being a creature of pure greed, his actions had benefited no one but himself. (Source: “Billionaire who broke the Bank of England,” The Telegraph, September 13, 2002.) Now, it seems he’s getting ready to break something else and it could affect you. Shorting is the Soros investing strategy par excellence. George Soros thrives on weaknesses, which he has an uncanny ability to recognize before anyone else. If he’s getting back in the trading game, be afraid. He has noticed a flaw in the global horizon and is betting on economic collapse. Because he has seen this before anyone else, Soros is confident he can profit handsomely from it.
George Soros told the Wall Street Journal, which recently interviewed him, that he plans to trade from his Soros Management LLC’s $30.0-billion fund, doubling his bets against the S&P 500. Soros has been buying gold. Not surprisingly, the yellow metal has gained some 19% this year. Soros’ hedge fund also bought gold and securities of mining groups anticipating weakness in various markets, one of which is China. (Source: “A Bearish George Soros Is Trading Again,” The Wall Street Journal, June 8, 2016.) So, George Soros is buying put options against the S&P 500, expecting to generate profits in light of the problems he glimpsed. Nobody knows when Soros actually bought those options, but as the S&P 500 is up by three percent, Soros is probably trading at a loss…for now. In 2007–2008, Soros smelled trouble in real estate, when the sector was reaching peak valuations and when few others sensed any problems. He then made billions in profits for himself. Soros typically trades—or enjoys trading—amid hysteria. His outlook is grimmer than that of others on Wall Street. Soros says that China continues to suffer a flight of capital and that its foreign exchange reserves are running out. (Source: “Now Betting on China’s Collapse: George Soros,” Gawker, June 9, 2016.) China’s popular People’s Daily accused Soros of speculating on the yuan, the Chinese currency, last January. (Source: “Op-ed: Think twice before declaring war on Chinese currency,” People’s Daily, January 27, 2016.) George Soros also sees political leadership problems worldwide that will compromise the markets and the ability of regulators to manage the markets. (He has also been raising funds to support the now official Democratic candidate for the presidency of the United States, Hillary Rodham Clinton.) Soros also fears the rise of a deflationary spiral that could affect the United States and global economy in general. Indeed, Soros, has not ruled out a collapse of the European Union due to the region’s migrant crisis, the continuing challenges coming from Greece, and the strong Brexit potential. In fact, George Soros’ Brexit fears are a hint. He may be betting in favor of Britain leaving the eurozone at the June 23 referendum, which is widely expected to bring down the GBP to USD exchange and also weaken the euro. You have been forewarned. When George Soros senses a weakness, he bites like a shark on a steak.


It appears that Chinese economy is going downward and accumulating larger debt (260% of GDP) Do you think it could trigger another recession?

Re: Soros predicting another economic collapse?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:06 pm
by Basra-
A simple answer is NO. United states will do better, as China goes down. The only downer will be--the US dollar becoming too valuable. Wages will continue to be flat here in the united states. And the rent continue rising. I hate that. So maybe-we need to go to another war, so that we can have another 2008--and start from the bottom. But I don't forsee that. Hillary will come in and give us another 8 year of Obama. Slow prosperity. Unless Trump wins--which can be marvelous, because economy will sure crush. LOL

Re: Soros predicting another economic collapse?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:40 am
by Ben Dover
The last recession ended in 2009, the standard cycle would suggest once every 5 years on average, the longest run being 10 years between recessions, so the balance of probability should be to the downside going forward. But maybe this time will be different, considering the sort of recovery, weak as fuck, secular stagnation.

Re: Soros predicting another economic collapse?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:11 am
by Rambie
The Chinese government imposes strict restrictions on the movement of capital outside the country.
So the Chinese people (who have a high rate of savings) are left with little options to invest oversee.
They invest into government asset and projects that become so expensive for the average citizen to consume.

Example Chinese ghost cities:

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http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/19/world ... host-city/

Re: Soros predicting another economic collapse?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:38 am
by Rambie
Very interesting article. It's not only limited to Chinese growing bubble.

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/in ... n-2016.asp

Re: Soros predicting another economic collapse?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:05 am
by Gaashaanle1000
The problem is the whole system, fractional reserve banking (money made out of thin air) with a dollar backed by nothing (but Saudi sentiments aka the petrodollar) since 1971!. This fake money then has interest put on top of it, making it impossible to ever pay back the debt that everyone is in.

What happens is that people/governments do not want to let go of this current scenario, because they all have heavy stakes at play. We have all been made into greedy corrupt monsters, and right at the top of the pyramid is the psychopathic zionist families like the Rothschilds and others.


It's funny that China is already collapsing, as many predicted it would last as long as Japan did, but that does not seem to be the case. It's economy grew exponentially, but the global demand is decreasing exponentially, due to everyone selling their souls to these crazy jews!

I expect a reset to happen sometime soon, only Allah knows how painful this reset will be. But one thing is for sure, a new currency will be put forward as the solution to these problems. What will the big nations do, who knows? Most likely some kind of world war I think. I pray that Allah helps us all through this impending disaster.

Re: Soros predicting another economic collapse?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:29 am
by Basra-
do u think the Chinese were envious of the Americans? Look at those photos?? They look like down town Manhattan. Or new York city, SKy scrapers, the parks, the design all have feel of New York. The Chinese are so used to controlling their people and government that they thought they could also control business and economy booming. Actually if they planned it good, they could control the economy very well. They just got greedy. lol But u cant control business. U cant be building scrapers before business demand. lol

Re: Soros predicting another economic collapse?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:15 am
by jamal9
Basra- wrote:do u think the Chinese were envious of the Americans? Look at those photos?? They look like down town Manhattan. Or new York city, SKy scrapers, the parks, the design all have feel of New York. The Chinese are so used to controlling their people and government that they thought they could also control business and economy booming. Actually if they planned it good, they could control the economy very well. They just got greedy. lol But u cant control business. U cant be building scrapers before business demand. lol
yeah? nayaa, I didn't know you were that smart. i hope you don't turn into that mj sellout - ayan hersi.

Re: Soros predicting another economic collapse?

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:40 am
by FAH1223
China is not collapsing. They just aren't growing at 9% anymore. They're growing at 6-7% which has become their new normal.