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Now I know why Brits are pissed.

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Almost everyone I know in the UK moved from another European country. Multiply that by the millions like me. Basically, UK has been the promised land for Euro immigrants/refugees for a long time. I wonder what will happen to rolling stone Somalis with European passports! Start rolling again?
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waryaa wrote:Almost everyone I know in the UK moved from another European country. Multiply that by the millions like me. Basically, UK has been the promised land for Euro immigrants/refugees for a long time. I wonder what will happen to rolling stone Somalis with European passports! Start rolling again?
Where my mom lives became polish spoken borough. I think those abu-caydh check Somalis will face deportation
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I thought the Scandinavians were more socialist and better for the poor. Do you know why the UK attracts so many? Is it the language?
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Cayda.

Its very difficult to settle in Germany an france they are racists.
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The UK attracts every euro immigrant because the uk isn't a European country. You can spend a whole day in London or Birmingham and not meet a single English person. I challenge any Somali Brit to tell me they have white friends. You can compare uk to usa, land of opportunities for immigrants.
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Sometimes u can't get mad at those racist punks that lash out on people in buses and supermarkets. Emotion pretty much trumps reason, they look at smarter people coming in to their country and doing much better than them interns of education, job, bigger house, better cars etc. That causes bitter envy and the only trump card they have is their ancestors built it.
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I have a biritsh bassaport I aint going nowhere but tho iyo bibs are getting deported back to hook van holland

Macal LJ is a different case that niiga is getting sent back to Jenavifar
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MujahidAishah wrote:I have a biritsh bassaport I aint going nowhere but tho iyo bibs are getting deported back to hook van holland

Macal LJ is a different case that niiga is getting sent back to Jenavifar
Why don't the Somalis in the UK from other European countries just apply for citizenship? I mean they have been living there for quite some time now!
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Advo wrote:
MujahidAishah wrote:I have a biritsh bassaport I aint going nowhere but tho iyo bibs are getting deported back to hook van holland

Macal LJ is a different case that niiga is getting sent back to Jenavifar
Why don't the Somalis in the UK from other European countries just apply for citizenship? I mean they have been living there for quite some time now!
Only the smart somalis changed thier nationalities.. I have only seen one family takecitzenship. The Dutch somalis I have seen don't want to take British Citizenship in the last because thier country doesn't allow dual citizenship .

Plus advo they had the same rights as a british citzens not anymore tho
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My family will relocate to SL within 5 years because of Brexit. Englands gone down the drain. RIP UK.
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It is a very complex issue because on one hand, Britain was the only country among the E.U (formerly) countries where E.U citizens got cosmetic surgery like Botox and full breast implants on the NHS. Add that to social welfare, housing and it's attractive to the least desirable E.U citizens from the poorer countries. On the other hand, 'more Britons sought benefits in countries like Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, Austria, France and Ireland than their nationals claimed in the UK'.

Revealed: thousands of Britons on benefits across EU.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... enefits-eu

Check the benefits country by country.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... untry.html

In my view, the resentment came from the older generation and low skilled Britons who overwhelmingly voted for Brexit and they were guided by intertwined issues of nationalism and economical factors. Immigration was such a nationalist issue that they felt very strong about it and viewed they had no control over it because they were dictated to them by unelected bureaucrats from Brussels. Well off places like London voted remain, while people in poorer areas such as the North-East of England voted to leave. This is indicative that globalisation has only benefitted those who were well educated and affluent and therefore it failed to trickle down to the rest who were left behind. It was a protest against globalisation.
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Holland automatically revokes citizenship of nationalized citizens after 5 continuous years absence from Holland. Many UK malis will get rude awakening. They will become refugees again in europe. :cry:
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I went off tangent in not answering the OP's initial question but I found an old Guardian article that asks a similar question and attempts to answer it. Hope it helps.

The British dream: why Europe's African citizens come to Britain.

Mukul Devichand

Talking to African migrants, I have found many admire Britain so much they give up better public services elsewhere in the EU.

A clear majority of British people think current immigration levels are too high, according to many polls. A major fear is that too many newcomers will stretch Britain's already shrinking welfare state. According to some reports, Downing Street is considering negative advertising, to persuade Bulgarians and Romanians to stay away. It doesn't help quell these fears when new migrants from poorer parts of the world, such as Somalia, show high rates of unemployment.

But what if we were told that thousands of people from Africa we've seen arriving here are not, in fact, fleeing poverty at all? Or that, legally speaking, they're not even Africans, but rather nationals of such generous welfare utopias as Sweden, Denmark and Holland?

For BBC Radio 4, I've been searching for some idea of what the modern "British Dream" could be, through a series of frank interviews with some of the almost 3 million new arrivals to England and Wales since 2001 (the first of three programmes is broadcast at 8pm starting tonight). Time and again, our team uncovered Africans who were not any longer from Africa. They were EU citizens and actually giving up welfare rights in places like Scandinavia to come to the UK.

Indeed, we met so many Nigerians from Germany, or Somalis from Denmark, that we asked Oxford University's Migration Observatory to crunch the numbers on how many EU migrants are not originally from Europe. They found that 141,000 people, 7% of those who came to the UK under EU rules were born outside the continent. Somalis are one of the biggest such groups, with an estimated 20,000 coming to the UK from the Netherlands alone. Studies show that between one third and a half of the entire Dutch Somali community has moved to the UK.

But why abandon the good life in Sweden, or the Netherlands, to start again from scratch in Britain?

"It's great to have a decent house," I was told by Quman Akli, who was three and a half when her family fled Somalia for Bergen, in North Holland, in 1989. "But also you want more in life than a decent house. You want to be able to progress."

Quman's family had been housed by the Dutch government. She grew up there and spoke Dutch fluently. After finishing school, she would have been entitled to a subsidised university education; even her bus passes would have been paid for by the state.

Instead, in 2003, she told her father Jibril that she wanted to move to Britain, where she would have to pay for university. He wasn't upset – in fact he decided to quit his job in a printing firm and bring the whole family to London.

"I think the UK is more open than other European countries," says Jibril, who is now a London bus driver. He and many other Somalis told me they admired the success of non-white people in Britain – which was conspicuously absent, they felt, on the continent. Jibril mentions the Asian community who came to the UK from Uganda. "They are landlords, they are businessmen, lawyers," he enthuses. "It's amazing."

How should we feel about this admiration of Britain from non-white people across Europe? Some may find it uncomfortable that Jibril and other Somalis I met were partly attracted by the larger number of mosques in Britain. On the other hand, for them, it's often about racism. Quman remembers how well-meaning Dutch people constantly asked her when she was "going home" after 9/11.

"No one has asked me that in London," she says. She enthuses about Britain's education system and the number of minority MPs.

Others are even more direct in their praise. "London has become a place where black people can live," says Kevin Obudako, who was born in Nigeria but came to Britain from Germany. Having been racially taunted when he first got to Germany, he says an awareness of British post-colonial migration drew him here. "You had Nigerians, Jamaicans," he says. "Everyone was accommodated."

Of course, it's no surprise when immigrants flatter Britain with their comments. People from brutal dictatorships admire our freedoms. The global poor want our prosperity. Nothing unusual there.

But this sub-category of EU migrants is different. With all of western Europe at their feet, they are drawn to Britain – even if they are, at least as first, poorer as a consequence. Stories like theirs are a powerful corrective against the tendency to over-simplify when it comes to describing the "influx" of newcomers to Britain. Migrants are neither all out to exploit us, nor all straightforward victims. But their admiration of our society does seem to indicate some kind of "British dream" that has drawn in many millions. Even as we worry about immigration levels, we should at least take the compliment these new Europeans are paying us, by voting with their feet.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... n-citizens
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MujahidAishah wrote:I have a biritsh bassaport I aint going nowhere but tho iyo bibs are getting deported back to hook van holland

Macal LJ is a different case that niiga is getting sent back to Jenavifar
Lol. I aint going nowhere. Happs on the other hand might tho unless he finds someone heartless like u to bully and work him like some slave lool
jamal9 wrote:Holland automatically revokes citizenship of nationalized citizens after 5 continuous years absence from Holland. Many UK malis will get rude awakening. They will become refugees again in europe. :cry:
Rubbish or else they wouldnt alow people to renew their dutch passports here.
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Has anyone been keeping up with the economy lately.
The British pound has hit a 34 year low against the US dollar. In dahabshiil $100 = £80+
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