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Skynet is here, all hope is lost

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:lol: :lol:
http://www.wired.com/2016/06/ai-fighter ... ic-really/

WHILE GOOGLE WAS building an artificial intelligence that could beat a grandmaster at the ancient game of Go, University of Cincinnati alum took a different tack. They designed an AI that could take on a fighter pilot.

Dubbed ALPHA, this system recently beat retired United States Air Force Colonel Gene Lee in multiple flight simulator trials, as the researchers explain in a paper recently published in the Journal of Defense Management.

The idea isn’t to replace human fighter pilots. According to Nicholas Ernest, a University of Cincinnati alum and the founder of Psibernetix, the company that developed ALPHA, this AI may ultimately act as a kind of digital assistant that provides real-time advice to pilots. Or it may fly unmanned aircraft that act as wingmen for planes piloted by humans. ALPHA doesn’t replace everything a human does, Ernest explains, but it can help juggle the enormous amount of data flowing from all various sensors on modern fighter planes.

“This isn’t for up-close dogfighting, or using your eyes to look out the cockpit,” he says. “It’s a lot of looking at what your sensors are telling you and interpreting that to tell you if you have a tactical advantage at this particular time and what your response should be.”

That’s where computers have a massive advantage. Just as companies like Google and Facebook scoop up massive amounts of data to determine our interests and decide what ads to show us next, ALPHA can slurp up the firehose of data streaming in from a plane’s sensors and makes quick decisions about how to respond. That said, ALPHA shouldn’t be confused with the AI systems that tech giants like Google, Facebook and Microsoft use. Those companies rely an approach called neural networking, which draws inspiration from the workings of the human brain. But ALPHA is based on a very different idea called fuzzy logic, which is more concerned with mathematical modeling. As Earnest puts it, fuzzy logic is concerned with emulating what people think, rather than on emulating the brain.

Fuzzy logic systems have been around for decades and are widely used for many applications, such as industrial control systems. But Ernest says they’ve been held back by a lack of scalability. Fuzzy logic systems are great at making predictions based on just a few inputs, but as those inputs grow, the systems become too complex to run on today’s computers. ALPHA, however, is able to handle hundreds of inputs thanks to an approach called “genetic fuzzy trees,” which Ernest developed at the University of Cincinnati. In essence, this approach breaks larger fuzzy logic problems down into much smaller problems, while still maintaining relationships between the various inputs. That has allowed the system to run on cheap desktop computers for the training phase. And once trained, ALPHA can run on tiny, low-powered computers like the Raspberry Pi or smart phones.

So far, Ernest and crew have only trained ALPHA in the virtual world. Ernest explains that the system started out fighting itself in flight simulators. From there, it graduated to fighting the Air Force Research Lab’s baseline AI opponents. And then it moved on to fighting Colonel Lee—in a virtual way. But Ernest believes it eventually take to the skies—and that’s not all. He predicts the approach could be useful for far more than just unmanned aircraft. His company is already exploring how this tech can aid pharmaceutical research, and it’s eying that other red-hot form of artificial intelligence: the self-driving car.

Correction 6/29/2016 at 1:25 PM ET: This article has been updated to clarify that although the underlying AI techniques created by Ernest while he was a PhD student at the University of Cincinnati, ALPHA was developed at Psibernetix.
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Fuzzy logic isnt that scary,
but GO!!!!
beating a human at GO is the first sign of real artificial technology.
This scares the shits out of me.
Now there is technically nothing stopping you from having an all robotic armed force,
and even policing.
Imagine an all robot swat team..
now its only matter
of engineering, the main hurdles have been overcome.

http://qz.com/639952/googles-ai-won-the ... -instinct/
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Aakhir zamaan.
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Not aakhir Al zaman
Yet.
It just means things change.

Good news is that technology to fight robot swarms is also growing quickly.
Imagine a faarax in macawis and sandals firing a RPG at the centre of a swarm.
The grenade is a miniaturised emp bomb.
And fries the Brain's of all electronics in a 200m radius.
Imagine emp ied. Lying inert and hidden till a group of robots pass by and costs $10 a pop.
Cheap as and you can literally litter the entire battlefield
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what if the robot brains can withstand explosions? like the adamantium metal in x-men.
very scary indeed
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Another false dawn......the technology will never work in practice. :)
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Did u read the article recently, where a person was killed because he was driving an auto car? I mean, walaahi oo bilaahi---I don't care about convenience or whatever---I will always drive my car. I don't even like cars with start button. Nope. I rather enter a key, turn it, ignite it and drive at my own control!
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original dervish wrote:Another false dawn......the technology will never work in practice. :)
Not really AI but processing power has been increasing so fast you can simulate enough.

This shit is real the US is betting every thing on this,
So are the Europeans and Japanese.
Within 10 years they will be fielded.
Development is almost done and they are in the testing phase
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Sxb......it won't work as they envision.
That's not to say it won't have alternative uses.

PS the US is finished....nothing will halt it's slow terminal decline. :)
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Its futile, World war 3 nukes will destroy all modern technology we will be back to steeds and swords
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original dervish wrote:Sxb......it won't work as they envision.
That's not to say it won't have alternative uses.

PS the US is finished....nothing will halt it's slow terminal decline. :)
ofcourse it wont work as they envision, this is a journalist writing this,
and armed forces are conservatives and afraid of change.

There are dozens of ways of using them effectively,
and will they remove man from the battlefield? no.

This prediction is as silly as the 1951 british government deciding that missiles made dogfighting with guns obsolete and manned fighters also obsolete.

by the way,
would you elaborate on alternative uses?
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It's hard to say sxb.....perhaps to undertake dangerous jobs such as mining, chemicals, deep sea diving etc.
The point is these wild claims are always made to justify the continued taxpayer funded largess. :)
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original dervish wrote:It's hard to say sxb.....perhaps to undertake dangerous jobs such as mining, chemicals, deep sea diving etc.
The point is these wild claims are always made to justify the continued taxpayer funded largess. :)
I appreciate your skepticism , but this is the case of technology becoming mature, while the doctrine to use it is still in its infancy.
Millitaries and politicians are conservative by nature, they believe in the if it works dont fix it policy, and they are afraid of change.

only problem is that the technology has matured and thy are scrambling to work out how to use it!!!
This is a revolutionary change and it will change the entire design of weapons systems.

Naval and air is fully viable right now,but land is not.
too much clutter, too many objects to acount for like people, buildings, trees animals etc.
It would take more processing power but that only a few years away.
but for air and sea, the processing power is more than enough right now.

They need to design to take advantage of lack of pilot.
right now anymore than 9G and the pilot passes out.
All fighter planes do more than 9G, closer to 20G.
They have software that limits their movement to prevent death of pilot.

Imagine a swarm of cheap drones, Datalinked and immne from jamming,
This changes everything, it cancels out Russian superiority in Air defense, with the S-400 and S-500 and upcomming S-600
and many more meduim and low range systems.
Its an open secret that stealth technology is a dead end, right now the F-22 an F-35 are partially visable to chinese and russian systems. in a few years they will be fully visable and the US cannot improve on stealth technology, its reached a dead end.

S they blew trillions of dollars on a soon to be obcelete system, and wasted more from corruption, and mismanagement.

AI drones are the salvation of the USA's Super power status.
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Sounds like I've heard it all before sxb.
PS how's your projects back home going?

I've been looking at chilled meat exports to the GCC.
There are millions of consumers that need satisfying.
I know there were a few export abattoirs in s/l, but are working at less than half capacity.
There is a need for chilled meat that has been dressed and vacuum packed ready for sale.
To be economical only the primal's ( best cuts) would be exported, the rest can go into mince/sausages & burgers. :)
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In semi retirement at the moment in Australia.
will be living fulltime in Burco in a couple of years, inshallah..

now that they have decent internet speeds, it is livable..
I just need a roof over my head, water, electricity and fast internet and i can live anywhere...
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