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I find it funny how you guys are acting as though the plights of black Americas (including Muslims because believe it or not the terms Black and Muslim are not antonyms) are anything less than the plights of others. Right after the Chapel Hill shootings 3 young Black Muslims were murdered in cold blood, what did the Muslim community say.. if they did make a statement of any sort, "they were probably thugs." Why does a black Muslim life matter any less than an Arab or Asian. I doubt any of you have watched any of the videos featuring the execution of these individuals because if you did you would not be making such dense statements. Yes, the world is filled with injustice, but that doesnt mean we have to pick and choose what we support. The BLM movement is not one simply for the christian populace this is one for all blacks including Muslims, who believe it or not also feel marginalized by their muslim community.

If you guys want to sit here and undermine this movement, then let us open up the can of worms that is racism within this Ummah. Frankly, if you are black you are treated like crap on most occasions and don't tell me that isnt the truth. Black Muslims are often times fit into a certain social narrative and if they break that narrative in any shape or form they're looked at as though they're a spectacle, an outlier. The plights of CAR, Nigeria, Somalia, etc are ignored, while others are focused on, but when movements like this are born highlighting the fact that black individuals are marginalized we have these same Muslims who focus on a specific demographic of Muslim yelling, "All Lives Matter" or "we shouldnt even be focusing on these issues" how disrespectful. This world is in shambles as a whole like I said before we dont have to pick and choose what we support. I honestly believe It's not the movement that the people have a problem with necessarily, rather it's the people behind the movement. If PakistaniLivesMatter, or ArabLivesMatter, or TurkishLivesMatter, etc became a thing I guarantee many people here would not be complaining like they are right now.

Those people who died could have very well been one of my brothers or cousins, and that's why this affects me, as it probably does others on this thread. Maybe you people just dont get it, hence these comments. And even if these people who died were non-muslim.. the sanctity of human life is a sacred thing. The killing of an individual unjustly is like killing all of mankind. These people have lost fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers. Breadwinners of families have been taken away, and you want to spew this all lives matter trash, as though the lives of these individuals carry no weight. Islam is a religion of justice, we should stand up for right no matter where it is and no matter what form, I get that we may be lazy or prejudice with certain issues, as it does seem, but it's our job to focus on any injustice and we need to be willing to call a spade a spade. We need to be willing to lend a helping hand whether to muslims or non muslims when the time comes. We're supposed to be winning peoples' hearts as Muslims, but here some posters are spewing nonsense.

Most of you talking about caring for muslims more don't even know what's going on with muslims in Africa or other abandoned places yet you decide to bring that up on this thread? The last charity you donated to was probably to syria or palestine, the last dua you made probably mentioned syria or palestine specifically, the last dead muslims you heard about or saw were probably syrians or Palestinians.

Nearly every few days muslims are killed in Africa and we don't even have an active "struggle for islam in *insert African country* thread where this gets updated. We have one for arab countries though and we have huge ones when white or non muslims are killed.
How many of you even made dua when there was a drought in somalia not long ago?
And CAR was a disaster. Ethiopia is another oppressor of muslims people don't know about.

The world's largest refugee camp is in kenya where many somalis have been suffering for years long before the syrian crisis. Do we see muslims sending aid conveys? no. Do we see anyone collecting money? no. And now kenya is actually closing this camp and displacing thousands of your brothers and sisters who have no where to go. Did any of you coming here going on about "I care more about muslims" even bother to make a thread about this? did you even know? did you make dua at least?

And what about all the racism black muslims go through right here in western countries (and in other countries) from their own brothers and sisters? apparently this doesn't matter and black muslims should pretend like all this doesn't affect them.

What do you expect black muslims to do? Muslims can't be bothered with black people's problems and white racists are killing black people, black muslims are getting racism from all sides with no help from their brothers and sisters. yet you want black muslims to completely disregard the BLM movement and stick with the ummah that abandoned them. If some black kuffar are the only ones speaking out then you can't blame black muslims for feeling something for this cause. Besides, it's not about religion, it's about colour. Police officers shoot BLACK people. And i can't believe i have to say the obvious but black people includes black muslims. They can't change their skin colour in order to save themselves and start waving Palestinian/syrian flags saying "i care more about muslims because i'm muslim" because unlike you non blacks they are being targeted due to their colour. Do white racists care? nope, that's even more reason to shoot them.

Do you think a racist officer cares whether the person he is about to shoot is Somali, Nigerian or Kenyan? He only sees black. All 3 will get shot and you wouldn't hear about it.

gegiroor wrote:We cared about Muslims, African Americans, and every other human being who is hurt by the system irrespective of their race. Justice doesn't have a skin color.

UlteriorMotive wrote:

gegiroor wrote:We cared about Muslims, African Americans, and every other human being who is hurt by the system irrespective of their race. Justice doesn't have a skin color.

So how come no one went to Jihad in Central African Republic when Muslims are getting ethnically cleansed from entire cities and towns?

PureQ wrote:

I find it funny how you guys are acting as though the plights of black Americas (including Muslims because believe it or not the terms Black and Muslim are not antonyms) are anything less than the plights of others. Right after the Chapel Hill shootings 3 young Black Muslims were murdered in cold blood, what did the Muslim community say.. if they did make a statement of any sort, "they were probably thugs." Why does a black Muslim life matter any less than an Arab or Asian. I doubt any of you have watched any of the videos featuring the execution of these individuals because if you did you would not be making such dense statements. Yes, the world is filled with injustice, but that doesnt mean we have to pick and choose what we support. The BLM movement is not one simply for the christian populace this is one for all blacks including Muslims, who believe it or not also feel marginalized by their muslim community.

If you guys want to sit here and undermine this movement, then let us open up the can of worms that is racism within this Ummah. Frankly, if you are black you are treated like crap on most occasions and don't tell me that isnt the truth. Black Muslims are often times fit into a certain social narrative and if they break that narrative in any shape or form they're looked at as though they're a spectacle, an outlier. The plights of CAR, Nigeria, Somalia, etc are ignored, while others are focused on, but when movements like this are born highlighting the fact that black individuals are marginalized we have these same Muslims who focus on a specific demographic of Muslim yelling, "All Lives Matter" or "we shouldnt even be focusing on these issues" how disrespectful. This world is in shambles as a whole like I said before we dont have to pick and choose what we support. I honestly believe It's not the movement that the people have a problem with necessarily, rather it's the people behind the movement. If PakistaniLivesMatter, or ArabLivesMatter, or TurkishLivesMatter, etc became a thing I guarantee many people here would not be complaining like they are right now.

Those people who died could have very well been one of my brothers or cousins, and that's why this affects me, as it probably does others on this thread. Maybe you people just dont get it, hence these comments. And even if these people who died were non-muslim.. the sanctity of human life is a sacred thing. The killing of an individual unjustly is like killing all of mankind. These people have lost fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers. Breadwinners of families have been taken away, and you want to spew this all lives matter trash, as though the lives of these individuals carry no weight. Islam is a religion of justice, we should stand up for right no matter where it is and no matter what form, I get that we may be lazy or prejudice with certain issues, as it does seem, but it's our job to focus on any injustice and we need to be willing to call a spade a spade. We need to be willing to lend a helping hand whether to muslims or non muslims when the time comes. We're supposed to be winning peoples' hearts as Muslims, but here some posters are spewing nonsense.

Most of you talking about caring for muslims more don't even know what's going on with muslims in Africa or other abandoned places yet you decide to bring that up on this thread? The last charity you donated to was probably to syria or palestine, the last dua you made probably mentioned syria or palestine specifically, the last dead muslims you heard about or saw were probably syrians or Palestinians.

Nearly every few days muslims are killed in Africa and we don't even have an active "struggle for islam in *insert African country* thread where this gets updated. We have one for arab countries though and we have huge ones when white or non muslims are killed.
How many of you even made dua when there was a drought in somalia not long ago?
And CAR was a disaster. Ethiopia is another oppressor of muslims people don't know about.

The world's largest refugee camp is in kenya where many somalis have been suffering for years long before the syrian crisis. Do we see muslims sending aid conveys? no. Do we see anyone collecting money? no. And now kenya is actually closing this camp and displacing thousands of your brothers and sisters who have no where to go. Did any of you coming here going on about "I care more about muslims" even bother to make a thread about this? did you even know? did you make dua at least?

And what about all the racism black muslims go through right here in western countries (and in other countries) from their own brothers and sisters? apparently this doesn't matter and black muslims should pretend like all this doesn't affect them.

What do you expect black muslims to do? Muslims can't be bothered with black people's problems and white racists are killing black people, black muslims are getting racism from all sides with no help from their brothers and sisters. yet you want black muslims to completely disregard the BLM movement and stick with the ummah that abandoned them. If some black kuffar are the only ones speaking out then you can't blame black muslims for feeling something for this cause. Besides, it's not about religion, it's about colour. Police officers shoot BLACK people. And i can't believe i have to say the obvious but black people includes black muslims. They can't change their skin colour in order to save themselves and start waving Palestinian/syrian flags saying "i care more about muslims because i'm muslim" because unlike you non blacks they are being targeted due to their colour. Do white racists care? nope, that's even more reason to shoot them.

Do you think a racist officer cares whether the person he is about to shoot is Somali, Nigerian or Kenyan? He only sees black. All 3 will get shot and you wouldn't hear about it.

Raganimo wrote:
Where did you take these from? Post a link.

UlteriorMotive wrote:

gegiroor wrote:We cared about Muslims, African Americans, and every other human being who is hurt by the system irrespective of their race. Justice doesn't have a skin color.

So how come no one went to Jihad in Central African Republic when Muslims are getting ethnically cleansed from entire cities and towns?

UlteriorMotive wrote:

gegiroor wrote:We cared about Muslims, African Americans, and every other human being who is hurt by the system irrespective of their race. Justice doesn't have a skin color.

So how come no one went to Jihad in Central African Republic when Muslims are getting ethnically cleansed from entire cities and towns?

gegiroor wrote:

UlteriorMotive wrote:

gegiroor wrote:We cared about Muslims, African Americans, and every other human being who is hurt by the system irrespective of their race. Justice doesn't have a skin color.

So how come no one went to Jihad in Central African Republic when Muslims are getting ethnically cleansed from entire cities and towns?

How many African states that surround Central African Republic are Muslim majority states? Fyi, Sudan, Nigeria, Niger, and Chad are all Muslim majority states. Take up with them if you wanted a Jihad conducted on their behalf. I don't know who did you specifically want to help? The best we can do from here is make dua and donate to charities that can help.




I am not sure what people who make these threads want. I seriously don't understand what you guys up to.

I stand by my statement that justice doesn't have skin color.

UlteriorMotive wrote:

gegiroor wrote:We cared about Muslims, African Americans, and every other human being who is hurt by the system irrespective of their race. Justice doesn't have a skin color.

So how come no one went to Jihad in Central African Republic when Muslims are getting ethnically cleansed from entire cities and towns?

UlteriorMotive wrote:

gegiroor wrote:We cared about Muslims, African Americans, and every other human being who is hurt by the system irrespective of their race. Justice doesn't have a skin color.

So how come no one went to Jihad in Central African Republic when Muslims are getting ethnically cleansed from entire cities and towns?