The myth of one Somali.

[Mahamoud81]

Where did this myth come from that we are all the same. You have bajuun, barawe, cadcad, bantus, maadhibaan, and then the major tribes like Isaac, Darod, Hawiye, Dir, and D&M who all have different origins and histories. The languages spoken by these different groups and the dialects are observed by everyone and the culture and customs practiced in Berbera and Hargeisa is vastly different than what is practiced in Bosaso and Galkacyo which is again different then what is practiced in Beledweyne and Xamar. So where did this myth of the one Somali come from. Keep all hate out of my topic for we are all Muslims at the end of the day who should help and wish the best for all of our countries.

[theyuusuf143]

All Somalis have the same Origins with the exception of Cadcad and jareer.

[Advo]

Obviously there are coastal communities who are mixed (reer xamar, reer barawa, bajun) but the rest of us have a common ancestors somewhere. Men lie, women lie but ur bloodline is encoded with ur true origin. I know it hurts to accept that qabiil origins are nothing but the work of fiction. Try to take it slow and process the information on ur own pace.

[Machiavelli2]

Where did this myth come from that we are all the same. You have bajuun, barawe, cadcad, bantus, maadhibaan, and then the major tribes like Isaac, Darod, Hawiye, Dir, and D&M who all have different origins and histories. The languages spoken by these different groups and the dialects are observed by everyone and the culture and customs practiced in Berbera and Hargeisa is vastly different than what is practiced in Bosaso and Galkacyo which is again different then what is practiced in Beledweyne and Xamar. So where did this myth of the one Somali come from. Keep all hate out of my topic for we are all Muslims at the end of the day who should help and wish the best for all of our countries.

Mohamoud81

Ina Adeer, we are much closer than say, Americans, Canadians, Indians or most other people who share an ethnicity/nationality. I don't see what culturally is practiced in Mogadishu, Boosaaso or in Kismaayo is that much different than what is practiced in Hargeisa or Jibouti. Offcourse, there will be minor differences and alterations. As for the political nation, a scholar by the name of Benedict Anderson summed it up very well. He says, the political nation is an "Imagined Community" because the members of the nation will never know the other members and meet them, and yet, they all believe to belong to one another as a community. He elaborates further and explains what brings them together as a nation are large competitions or events such as the Olympics, the World Cup or any sport events. A reason why every Somali considers Mohamed (Mo) Farah as their fellow Somali brother. If we go by Andersons definition of a nation, then we Somalis are more closely related than many other ethnicities/nationals.

[Mahamoud81]

All Somalis have the same Origins with the exception of Cadcad and jareer.

If Sheikh Isxaaq rahimahullah was a myth then our whole country is a myth. Stop pushing these new and dangerous ideas that are a threat to the sanctity of our nation.

[Mahamoud81]

Obviously there are coastal communities who are mixed (reer xamar, reer barawa, bajun) but the rest of us have a common ancestors somewhere. Men lie, women lie but ur bloodline is encoded with ur true origin. I know it hurts to accept that qabiil origins are nothing but the work of fiction. Try to take it slow and process the information on ur own pace.

What makes you so convinced that this is the case though. Maybe some people's oral traditions have been fabricated or misunderstood over time but to insinuate all of our oral traditions and heritage is based on fabrications and myth is pretty low. These are not things people just randomly make up.

[Strategic]

The people you're talking about are minorities, Somalis at large speak the same language have the same dhaqan with some variation and religion, this is a fact not a myth

[waryaa]

i think somalis are Oromo variant.

[Strategic]

i think somalis are Oromo variant.

do you smoke weed,how does it feel.

[waryaa]

that's off topic bro should we stick to the topic @ hand or f it up and turn it into weed talk

[MRnutritionist]

Adeer Somalis Isku Mid Ma Ahaan,

Waxa Jira Kuwo Dabada kor Ay Ku Taalo Oo Qaarka Kore U Yar Dhabar Wayna Leh, Waana Dad Suniyaha Aad Iyo Aad uga Timo Madan. Daarood

Waxaa Jira Kuwa Dhabar Waa Wayne Supper Size Sidii Hippos Intooda Badana Madaxa Aad uga Wayn, Waa Isaaq Iyo Dir.

Waxaa Kaloo Jira Dadkeyga Oo Aad U Dhuudhuuban Inta Badan Waa Dadkeyga Aan Jecelahay ee Hawiyaha.

Umadaas Ilaahey Abuuray ee Midba Si Ka Yeelay, Mid Dhuuban, Mid Suniyabadan Oo Aan Sineyn Iyo Mid Dhabar Wayne Miyaa Isku Mid ah?

Caqligu Ha Shaqeeyo

[Machiavelli2]

that's off topic bro should we stick to the topic @ hand or f it up and turn it into weed talk

Ina Adeer, start another weed talk thread and let's not derail this one. But I absolutely agree with you that we Somalis are a variant of our Oromo cousins. Those who believe in the "mythical" Arab ancestor, my apologies.

Mohamud81

Ina Adeer, let's say Astoria is a new State/country and the people who live in Astoria are from different clans, dialects and cuisine. But everyone is an Astorian and how will you create a patriotic unity among them to be loyal to their great nation of Astoria? You have to invent a shared narrative, mythical figures and positive historical achievements that makes all as a unified Astorians proud people/nation. A lot of social engineering takes place to sell the idea of a nationhood and mould all these disparate groups to unite under the new nation. Many nations wish that they were more homogenous like us, Somalis.

[MayDay777]

two brothers are never exactly the same

[theyuusuf143]

All Somalis have the same Origins with the exception of Cadcad and jareer.

If Sheikh Isxaaq rahimahullah was a myth then our whole country is a myth. Stop pushing these new and dangerous ideas that are a threat to the sanctity of our nation.

It's a big big myth that we isaaqs are the offspring of one elderly single Arab man crossed the golf of aden without any other arab community with him. Let's be realistic bro. Imagine if you move to the masaa, i land in kenya today and you marry 3 masaa, i women do you think your offspring can be majority of the masaa, i nation in few hundred years time? I take the masaa, i as an example because they are small community comparable to the number of Somalis existed at the time we believe Sheik isaaq and darod came to our nothern shores. How can you believe two single men (isaaq and darod) came to our land separately and produced fast majority of the Somali race? Are you suggesting that the existed large Somali community before these arab men who welcomed them were not sexsually active to breed. Kkkk

[mahoka]

All Somalis have the same Origins with the exception of Cadcad and jareer.

If Sheikh Isxaaq rahimahullah was a myth then our whole country is a myth. Stop pushing these new and dangerous ideas that are a threat to the sanctity of our nation.

Why do all sheegato pretend to be isaaq. Some next level inferiority complex