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You're easliy one of the most pathetic posters I've seen on this forum, Abdijohnson was a better person that you, may Allah forgive your delusional nonsense who would help the Amhara over his own Somali brothers, a disgrace, you disgust me. Your hate on Non isaaq is fantastically asinine. Stop derailing my threads you cunt.Khalid Ali wrote:the funny part is ur Hutus had nothing to do with this war Hutus have not been mentioned in the history of BOOKS adal was in Somaliland and it was not stricktly a Somali empire we had afars Hararis Muslim bejas supporting it Somalis mostly from the Isaaq habar magaadle Ciise waraabe and the Geri Koombe , no hutu have been mentioned in these wars so why talk about it. and the war was because of religion never about Somali nationalism as u want to potray it.
Khalid Ali wrote:the funny part is ur Hutus had nothing to do with this war Hutus have not been mentioned in the history of BOOKS adal was in Somaliland and it was not stricktly a Somali empire we had afars Hararis Muslim bejas supporting it Somalis mostly from the Isaaq habar magaadle Ciise waraabe and the Geri Koombe , no hutu have been mentioned in these wars so why talk about it. and the war was because of religion never about Somali nationalism as u want to potray it.
Arab come under Habar Magaadlebashe19 wrote:Bismilahi, wasalaatu wasalaamu calaa rasuulilaah Muxammed SCW, Wa bacdu, waayahaan dad badan baa caadaystay inay taariikhda ma guurtada ah tir tiraan inta kore ee uuqata, ayagoo marmarsiyo ka dhiganaya Siyaad BARRE taariikhda isagaa qoray, taariikh uu inoo qorayna doonimayno, iyadoo ay ku salaynayaa hab caadifad ah oo qabiil iyo cudur calooshooda ay daashatay.
bal halkaan hoose fiira, dad ay dadkaan hormuud u yihiin baa inkiraya hogaamiye yaashii JIHAADKA.
https://youtu.be/X2U2TnWbjFw
Adeerayaal taariikhda FUDXUL XABASHA Nin carab ah oo asalkiisu yahay Yemen ayaa dadkii mujaahidiinta caruurtoodii iyo dhaxalkoodii si wanaagsan uga soo qoray oo laga sii minguuriyey, dadkii ka sii minguuriyey waxaa ka mid ahaa, Lewis, Richard Bertan, kuwo asalkoodu Bortiqiis ahaa, iyagoo si gaar ah u raadinayey taariikhda General la dhashay Vasco De Gama oo uu gacantiisa ku dilay ninkii dhaxlay Axmed Gurey Geesigii labaad AMIIR NUUR, oo isagu ahaa ninkii dilay Neguskii Galawda'uus wax muran kama jiro inuu hogaamiye MAREEXAAN ahaa.
Mariixmaan hogaanka safka hore ayey ahaayeen, waxaana soo raacay dadkaan:-
1. Gerri Koombe
2. Abeesguul
3. Gadebuurse
4. Garxajis
5. Leelkase
6.Harti
7. Hawiye
Horta Isaaqa qaybta Habarjeclo iyo Arabka Jihaadba maysan aqoon, taa waxaa la midda;
Ogaadeenkan Go'an ahayna maba aaney jirin, hadey jireena waxaa safka soo gelin jiray Garaad Wiil Waal.
somaliler wrote:@bashe waad waalatey adeer. Garad WiilWaal iyo Taarikhdan isma lahan, G WiilWaal oromoda buu leyn Jirey ninkaas Dagaaladii Adal aad buu ugadambeeyey. Garad Wiilwaal waa taarikh soke. 1800s kamafogo
Ogaden was not only involved , one of it's subclans practically run the empire because Walashma Dynasty belonged to them. They are the Reer Sacad subclan who claim direct lineage from the founder of the Dynasty
Don't forget also tons of clans that were the true Adal Sultanate citizens who lived in Harar iyo Agagaar got scattered by the war and invading Oromos were almost all absorbed by Ogaden. while most were absorbed by Oromos the remainder of the real Adalite Somali clans and ethnic Hararis were all absorbed into Ogaden.
who cares though in the end in the end? whichever clan. It was Muslim vs Gaalo let's avoid going beyond this please.
Khalid Ali wrote:somaliler wrote:@bashe waad waalatey adeer. Garad WiilWaal iyo Taarikhdan isma lahan, G WiilWaal oromoda buu leyn Jirey ninkaas Dagaaladii Adal aad buu ugadambeeyey. Garad Wiilwaal waa taarikh soke. 1800s kamafogo
Ogaden was not only involved , one of it's subclans practically run the empire because Walashma Dynasty belonged to them. They are the Reer Sacad subclan who claim direct lineage from the founder of the Dynasty
Don't forget also tons of clans that were the true Adal Sultanate citizens who lived in Harar iyo Agagaar got scattered by the war and invading Oromos were almost all absorbed by Ogaden. while most were absorbed by Oromos the remainder of the real Adalite Somali clans and ethnic Hararis were all absorbed into Ogaden.
who cares though in the end in the end? whichever clan. It was Muslim vs Gaalo let's avoid going beyond this please.
No such thing as Walashma Dynasty being Ogaden or darood there is no evidence of that the said claim was first introduced by a Canadian white guy who tries to figure out genealogy and abtirsi , it was a theory the Walashma dynasty were most likely 95% Arabs who lived in Zeila Zeila had an arab identity in the 10th century , according to giorgis a professor of the Addis Abbaba university in the 18 century these were the sultans of Zeila . Umar Dunyahuz is Ogaden u say but how is that possible when Ogaden trace only 25 to 27 grandfathers to Darood the living ogadens today. its Mathmatically impossible for dunyahuz to be the great great grand son of Ogaden when Dunyahuz lived in the 11 century. Another fact is that Darood came only to Somalia in the 13 century and that daroods father died in 1404 where as sultan umar dynhahus lived 4 centuries before darood. And acoording to Sheikh Abubakr Walashma were descendants of Yusuf Al badqadis first childeren and he was a hararian historian
1 Sulṭān ʿUmar DunyaHuz 1185 - 1228 Founder of the Walashma dynasty, his nickname was ʿAdūnyo or Wilinwīli
2 Sulṭān ʿAli "Baziwi" ʿUmar 1228 - 12?? Son of ʿUmar DunyaHuz
3 Sulṭān ḤaqqudDīn ʿUmar 12?? - 12?? Son of ʿUmar DunyaHuz
4 Sulṭān Ḥusein ʿUmar 12?? - 12?? Son of ʿUmar DunyaHuz
5 Sulṭān NasradDīn ʿUmar 12?? - 12?? Son of ʿUmar DunyaHuz
6 Sulṭān Mansur ʿAli 12?? - 12?? Son of ʿAli "Baziwi" ʿUmar
7 Sulṭān JamaladDīn ʿAli 12?? - 12?? Son of ʿAli "Baziwi" ʿUmar
8 Sulṭān Abūd JamaladDīn 12?? - 12?? Son of JamaladDīn ʿAli
9 Sulṭān Zubēr Abūd 12?? - 13?? Son of Abūd JamaladDīn
10 Māti Layla Abūd 13?? - 13?? Daughter of Abūd JamaladDīn
11 Sulṭān ḤaqqudDīn Naḥwi 13?? - 1328 Son of Naḥwi Mansur, grandson of Mansur ʿUmar
12 Sulṭān SabiradDīn Maḥamed "Waqōyi" Naḥwi 1328 - 1332 Son of Naḥwi Mansur, defeated by Emperor Amde Seyon of Abyssinia, who replaced him with his brother JamaladDīn as a vassal.
13 Sulṭān JamaladDīn Naḥwi 1332 - 13?? Son of Naḥwi Mansur, vassal king under Amde Seyon
14 Sulṭān NasradDīn Naḥwi 13?? - 13?? Son of Naḥwi Mansur, vassal king under Amde Seyon
15 Sulṭān "Qāt" ʿAli SabiradDīn Maḥamed 13?? - 13?? Son of SabiradDīn Maḥamed Naḥwi, rebelled against Emperor Newaya Krestos after the death of Amde Seyon, but the rebellion failed and he was replaced with his brother Aḥmed
16 Sulṭān Aḥmed "Harbi Arʿēd" ʿAli 13?? - 13?? Son of ʿAli SabiradDīn Maḥamed, accepted the role of vassal and did not continue to rebel against Newaya Krestos, and is subsequently regarded very poorly by Muslim historians
17 Sulṭān Ḥaqquddīn Aḥmed 13?? - 1374 Son of Aḥmed ʿAli
18 Sulṭān SaʿadadDīn Aḥmed 1374 - 1403 Son of Aḥmed ʿAli, killed in the Abyssinian invasion of Ifat under Yeshaq I
according to James dhahl sacaad diin 21
1Sultan Saad AlDin
2Son of Sultan Ahmed "Harbi Areid"
3Son of Sultan Ali "Qat Ali"
4Son of Sultan Sabr AlDin Mahamed "Waqoyi"
5Son of Nahwi "Dalhuy"
6Son of Sultan Mansur
7Son of Sultan Ali "Baziwu"
8Son of Wali Asma Omar "Wilinwili"
9Son of Dunyahus
10Son of Ahmed
11Son of Mahammad
12Son of Hamid
13Son of Yusuf
14Son of Barkanti
15Son of Saad
16Son of Muddan
17Son of Muqabul
18Son of Abdirahman "Ogadein"
19Son of Absame
20Son of Abdi "Kumade"
21Son of Mahamed "Kablalah"
22Son of Abdirahman "Darod"
Ugaas Xaashi
Ugaas Faaraxcadde "Faratoon"
Ugaas Maxamuud
Ugaas Nuur "Cubudhiye"
Ugaas Warfaa "Aar"
Ugaas Magan
Ugaas Warfaa
Ugaas Xirsi
Ugaas Khalaf "Madoobe"
Xasan "Dheere"
Khalaf "Guun"
Yuusuf
Maxaad "Roob"
Cabdullah
Maxaad
Muuse
Maxamed
Subeer
Baahale
Siciid
Muuse
Yuusuf
Tagaalwaaq
Barwaaq
Miyirwalaal
Cabdiraxmaan "Ogaadeen"
Absame
Cabdi "Kuumade"
Maxamed "Kablalax"
Cabdiraxmaan "Daarood"
how can ugaas xaashi who was born around the 1900s and Sacaad diin who lived in the 12 century only have a difference of around 9 ancestors impossible
