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If you really want to understand the history of Jubaland,its inhabitants, clan makeups, I recommend that you read the the book called "Jubaland and Its Inhabitants" by f. Elliot written in 1913.
Lately, I have seen so many ignorants claiming Jubaland for minority and unknown and nonexistent clans. Read this first and then once you complete this, I will post more books and academic articles on this land.
Here is the link:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1778081?se ... b_contents
These guys have done a great job in copying and pasting the important pieces:
http://allssc.com/2013/11/jubaland-and- ... june-1913/

This should, at last, put an end to the age old dispute of which Skinny clan has a legitimate claim to Lower Jubba, in general, and Kismayo in particular.

barbarossa wrote:This should, at last, put an end to the age old dispute of which Skinny clan has a legitimate claim to Lower Jubba, in general, and Kismayo in particular.

And who should that be?

Interesting, but I wonder who are the isaaqs living in the east side of jubaland! At first I thought may be he is describing the sijues but then there was no sijues in jubaland. There must be some lost Iidoors in jubaland.

The person who wrote that article is just as clueless as you.

In the whole of East Africa there are two branches of the Somali, the Darud [Darood] and the Ishaak. The Dirr and Haweyeh tribes are in no way co-tribal with the Somali

Hawiye and dir are not Somali?




Atleast make your propaganda believeable.

theyuusuf143 wrote:Interesting, but I wonder who are the isaaqs living in the east side of jubaland! At first I thought may be he is describing the sijues but then there was no sijues in jubaland. There must be some lost Iidoors in jubaland.

There is a town in JL called Hargeisa Yar but it's Ogaden town no Isaaqs

Geeljire252 wrote:The person who wrote that article is just as clueless as you.

In the whole of East Africa there are two branches of the Somali, the Darud [Darood] and the Ishaak. The Dirr and Haweyeh tribes are in no way co-tribal with the Somali

Hawiye and dir are not Somali?




Atleast make your propaganda believeable.

Colonial intelligence and race descriptions are always biased. But their geography description and incidents timeline are mostly accurate .

somaliler wrote:

theyuusuf143 wrote:Interesting, but I wonder who are the isaaqs living in the east side of jubaland! At first I thought may be he is describing the sijues but then there was no sijues in jubaland. There must be some lost Iidoors in jubaland.

There is a town in JL called Hargeisa Yar but it's Ogaden town no Isaaqs

He didn't mention a town. But the way he described the isaaqs it's like there was significant number of isaaqs living next to jubaland . Some jubaland experts should read and post their take on this.

Geljire, where is your HG degaans? kkkkk

theyuusuf143 wrote:

somaliler wrote:

theyuusuf143 wrote:Interesting, but I wonder who are the isaaqs living in the east side of jubaland! At first I thought may be he is describing the sijues but then there was no sijues in jubaland. There must be some lost Iidoors in jubaland.

There is a town in JL called Hargeisa Yar but it's Ogaden town no Isaaqs

He didn't mention a town. But the way he described the isaaqs it's like there was significant number of isaaqs living next to jubaland . Some jubaland experts should read and post their take on this.

I have seen so many isaaq families in jubaland..i dont know their subclans but they were some families mostly in jubbada hoose..they dont have their own deegaan though.

BlueBlood wrote:

theyuusuf143 wrote:

somaliler wrote:
There is a town in JL called Hargeisa Yar but it's Ogaden town no Isaaqs

He didn't mention a town. But the way he described the isaaqs it's like there was significant number of isaaqs living next to jubaland . Some jubaland experts should read and post their take on this.

I have seen so many isaaq families in jubaland..i dont know their subclans but they were some families mostly in jubbada hoose..they dont have their own deegaan though.

A lot of isaaq families were brought from Caynaba to Jubboyinka during abaarti Dabadheer by the Kacaan regime.
Majority went back to Somaliland.

somaliler wrote:

theyuusuf143 wrote:Interesting, but I wonder who are the isaaqs living in the east side of jubaland! At first I thought may be he is describing the sijues but then there was no sijues in jubaland. There must be some lost Iidoors in jubaland.

There is a town in JL called Hargeisa Yar but it's Ogaden town no Isaaqs

It's a OG town because Hassan Turki is buried there.

theyuusuf143 wrote:Interesting, but I wonder who are the isaaqs living in the east side of jubaland! At first I thought may be he is describing the sijues but then there was no sijues in jubaland. There must be some lost Iidoors in jubaland.

present day Isaaq degaans are on the eastern side of the river, I think that is what the writer meant! Remember they were the only 'Somali' clan not present in Jubbaland.

balwarama wrote:

theyuusuf143 wrote:Interesting, but I wonder who are the isaaqs living in the east side of jubaland! At first I thought may be he is describing the sijues but then there was no sijues in jubaland. There must be some lost Iidoors in jubaland.

present day Isaaq degaans are on the eastern side of the river, I think that is what the writer meant! Remember they were the only 'Somali' clan not present in Jubbaland.

Do you mean Somaliland ? The eastern side of the ganane river is jilib and jamame right ? That's biimaal Deegaan ! if you move further East beyond jubaland there is marka an other biimaal Deegaan. The east he is talking about must be here if not Somaliland probably Sanaag . Since isaaqs are related to biimaal it's possible that isaaqs lived with the biimaal , there are some still living with them my grandfather was one of them, though he settled there after the dabadheer drought that hit the North . That's my theory.

One would be stupid to deny the amount of HG that lived in Jubbaland, back then and still now. I'm referring to pre-Kacaan/Pre Republic era.