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Pretty much all Somali clans have had some form of expansions over the course of centuries but my bum heads of an ancestor
didnt bother to expand beyond Western Bari and into say NFD or Ogaden


I could've had a dual nationality like my fellow Daroods heck Ogaden got three countries available for them to claim
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most of you are farmers, farmers are tied to the land, and unless they develop an advanced millitary , will always be victims
of nomads.
IF you want to travel far, leave your cattle and hop on camels..
The problem is once you get camel fever, you dont go back.

being settled farmers, you have a lead over the rest of somalis,'
you just need to be more aggressive.
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gurey25 wrote:most of you are farmers, farmers are tied to the land, and unless they develop an advanced millitary , will always be victims
of nomads.
IF you want to travel far, leave your cattle and hop on camels..
The problem is once you get camel fever, you dont go back.

being settled farmers, you have a lead over the rest of somalis,'
you just need to be more aggressive.
I was never aware that we wuz farmers, thought we were more like seafearers and fishermen hence the nickname Tunahead or Beesha Tuna is what we are called (i kid)
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i thought you were rahanwyen

lool..
beesha tuna? are you warsengeli?

do you know some isaaq are also tuna heads.
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gurey25 wrote:i thought you were rahanwyen

lool..
beesha tuna? are you warsengeli?

do you know some isaaq are also tuna heads.
Yes Im Warsangeli that tuna referrence was a good way to give it off


I know that Isaaq seafearers exist we border coastal HY
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Only Warsangelis who fish are the ones in laas qoray. The rest are your typical nomads.

Same with MJ and some Isaaq communities who fish.

We need more fishermen and less nomads tbh. Longest coast in the continent and we don't even make use of it :snoop:
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Raganimo wrote:Only Warsangelis who fish are the ones in laas qoray. The rest are your typical nomads.

Same with MJ and some Isaaq communities who fish.

We need more fishermen and less nomads tbh. Longest coast in the continent and we don't even make use of it :snoop:
This is why we had a militia acting as our coast gaurd back in 08 they were calld Pirates ironically the real pirates were let off


Dude you arent aware that Warsangeli dont shun the Tuna life we embraced it , my Great Grandfather used to Navigate through the gulf of Aden as part of the British Navy



Yes I like the British fuck the mad mullah
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^ :wtf:
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didnt they ship your sultan off to th seychelles or something?
what with the love?
whats to love about those evil bastards.

They used the colonial manual on us,
divide and conquer.
When darood had power, they opposed them, when isaaq were on top, they smacked them down again.
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gurey25 wrote:didnt they ship your sultan off to th seychelles or something?
what with the love?
I think you have a misconception Shire wasnt the acting Garaad and he damn sure as hell had no say in the affairs of other Subclans


He ruled over his own not other Warsans
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Batwing wrote:
gurey25 wrote:didnt they ship your sultan off to th seychelles or something?
what with the love?
I think you have a misconception Shire wasnt the acting Garaad and he damn sure as hell had no say in the affairs of other Subclans


He ruled over his own not other Warsans
The sultan of reer Garaad has always been seen as the leader of Warsangelis. You don't know what you're talking about.
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gurey25 wrote:didnt they ship your sultan off to th seychelles or something?
what with the love?
whats to love about those evil bastards.

They used the colonial manual on us,
divide and conquer.
When darood had power, they opposed them, when isaaq were on top, they smacked them down again.
He is probably pro British rule since they were gaalo. I'm pretty sure that he has said in the past that he is an atheist.
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Raganimo wrote:
Batwing wrote:
gurey25 wrote:didnt they ship your sultan off to th seychelles or something?
what with the love?
I think you have a misconception Shire wasnt the acting Garaad and he damn sure as hell had no say in the affairs of other Subclans


He ruled over his own not other Warsans
The sultan of reer Garaad has always been seen as the leader of Warsangelis. You don't know what you're talking about.
Did you forget that Shire was fightibg for the throne from his Father who was the acting Garaad back then

Even when he assumed leadership he had opposition

Im no historian and even im aware of that
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Batwing wrote:
Raganimo wrote:
Batwing wrote:
I think you have a misconception Shire wasnt the acting Garaad and he damn sure as hell had no say in the affairs of other Subclans


He ruled over his own not other Warsans
The sultan of reer Garaad has always been seen as the leader of Warsangelis. You don't know what you're talking about.
Did you forget that Shire was fightibg for the throne from his Father who was the acting Garaad back then

Even when he assumed leadership he had opposition

Im no historian and even im aware of that
Most Warsangelis came under his rule. Small pockets of resistance might've existed but they were largely insignificant.
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Raganimo wrote:
Batwing wrote:
Raganimo wrote:
The sultan of reer Garaad has always been seen as the leader of Warsangelis. You don't know what you're talking about.
Did you forget that Shire was fightibg for the throne from his Father who was the acting Garaad back then

Even when he assumed leadership he had opposition

Im no historian and even im aware of that
Most Warsangelis came under his rule. Small pockets of resistance might've existed but they were largely insignificant.
I dont care about that point is Sultan had 0 power over my own subclan and now the recent Sultan has 0 say in the rest


Its nice to see Reer Garaad fall
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