US opposes the jowhar conference

[sahal80]

HOL makes breaking news not propaganda. it has diplomatic and govt sources. i remember revealing it when the govt was about to recognize ahmed madobe ahead of addisababa meetings

so if the US does not recognize maamulka jowhar who will recognize you?

remember its the US who releases first statements before IGAD and UNSOM like they did with sharif hassan


garguurte only got to obey hiiraan orders and appoint hiiraanian president in order to gain hiiraan trust so the IC

in any case only unukaleh r the losers!

HOL revealed yesterday
10 oct
http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2016/Oct/wa ... 107892.htm

english version today
http://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2016/Oct/1 ... rence.aspx

caasimada copycat 11 oct
http://caasimadda.com/xog-mareykanka-oo ... shabeelle/

[smooth]

Sahal

I am no fan of HSM or his other crooks including Guled and the rest of the fake politician's, but what alternatives do you have? were are your institutions? Where was your maamul? your army etc? What have you got to show for 25 years? The bitter truth is that most us have nothing, the very little some groups got was luck due to being left major government assets (institutions, buildings, ports etc.) but even they are dogshite.

HSM is no different then any other politician in Somalia today, in fact on pure substance he wouldn't make the top 30 of the worst ones on my list or even 50, as he has at least established some schools/university through NGO and various other projects, he is clearly not up for the job and neither is anyone else today that's running that has done anything of significance for Somali's or Somalia for me to get even remotely excited about.

I don't know why you stress yourself so much about debating about one crook over another, or a crook over another useless squatting tribal chief that has never done anything of note nor has the capacity to do anything for his clan, your anger if you should have any, should really be directed at those useless tribal chief's whose decades of incompetence lead to this situation and void that has given HSM opportunity to appoint his own henchman, what else did you expect sxb?

[MaydhMax]

horta can someone tell me if the fed govt control fully hiiraan - the reason i say this is could reer hiiran be free from xamar's rule like PL and galmudug

[AwRastaale]

Big victory for Hiiraan.

It's all politics and nothing personal. We award Abgaal with Somalia presidency but limit their region(s).

We can't afford Xamar to expand into Hiiraan using Hirshabelle cover.

[sahal80]

smooth

ok sxb

horta can someone tell me if the fed govt control fully hiiraan - the reason i say this is could reer hiiran be free from xamar's rule like PL and galmudug

just nominal control. hal saac baan kula wareegi karnaa magaalada dhan laakin marabno in systemka dawlidnimada dhoco si uu san dhac u dhicin. ayadoon maamul la samayn so we r building parallel state. just today 750 soldiers have been regestered for the new maamul so the army is still a pro govt and cooperates with djibouti bc there is no another order

the old admin still exists but they know we r electing a new admin. there is police....




we had before these kind of admins in the 90s and 2000s for example when yeey was based in jowhar we had selected admin that was against his govt until they started negotiations in mustahil

we have had long ago autonomous admins before galmudug, himanheeb and ahlusunna bc HG were then based in xamar

we started supporting the TFG in order to contribute the process of state building willingly. for a whole year there was no amisom or al shabaab in hiiraan unlike of xamar and the rest of south. sh sharif used to visit without amisom/ethiopia being in the whole hiiraan

the reason is bc while xamar resistance was led by jihadists, hiiraan resistance was led by col omar hashi
http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2008/may/wa ... 9-3668.htm

first our people r kinda dad hogaan aaminsan and omar hashi was massively influential

he let the admin for the islamists and they used to be called garabka dawlada, the army for the generals, commander of the army was gen mukhtar. dabageed and adan garaase from yeey era were allowed to come back to baledweyne without involving in politics

and hashi as our minister in the govt

so we lost this genuine leader who was keeping us together in june 2009

sh shriif have become afarjeeble by depending on amisom instead of establishing local army so this islamist governor has visited him in xamar as there was no hashi any more the man who was looking after the region. sh sharif told him why r you making headache for yourself i will call ethiopia for you!

this bc he asked him arms...

hawadle hate this guy bc he dissolved the admin and went to abroad but i respect him for his mabaadi

what has changed in xamar since sharif started using amisom?


http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2008/may/wa ... 9-3668.htm

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=204894

unlike of xamar we secured the region from jalalaqsi to baladweyne after ethiopia left it in november 2008 for a whole year until 2010
http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2009/jan/wa ... 2-5497.htm

http://www.allceegaag.com/fiinyarebacku ... iiraan.htm