How I become an excellent Economist

[TeeriReturns]

One hour econ lecture/audio in the morning, whilst in the car, at home and an hour in the eening before bed,

listened to 4 audio books a week on average , there is a rule that says to be good at something you must do it for 10,00 hours, takes about 4 years meaning approx 12 hours a week for 4 years, i did about 30 hours a week, in bed, in the kitchen and in the car all i listen to was economcs, from the chinaese (only one man sadly) to the greeks, muslims and westerns.

muslims did not author an economcis book from 1520 till 1944. we want to sleep despite adam smith father of so called economics calling ibn khaldum 14th century Cr. the father of economics

yes we corrected Greek economics and added our won and passed them to the western world through spain. yet our econiomic policies and most improatntly the philiopsical frame work (geeky way of saying foundation) is written by the western man, uff.

i fell in love with economics at aged 14 (father had two degrees in the subject) i realised at aged 18 most of our books are written by cadaan kufaar. and also noticed we charge riba in banks in makkah and medina because we believe we cannot survive with out riba oer grow our economies with out.

i swore in the name of Allah, lord of the worlds who made me an Ogaden landheer that i will take all the wrongs in economics and be the first muslim economist to purify and bring back islamic economics from the forgotten path and rectify it and then create a philosophical foundation based on the quran and hadith,

thus i became ferocious at studying whilst my first degree took me to spain and Uk places to work in econometric, bonds, derivatibves, futures, forex, etc as a trader and in canary wharf,

in 1400 there was only one economics book in the west: st Aquines , Islamic Spain had 70,000 in just one library (so much knowledge lost and burned by those Spanish dogs


here i am today, i have cracked and correct contractum trinius islamic version as a dupe and lie sent to us and designed to subvert islamic contracts as contractum trinius is used to destroy the basis of islamic econmics just like it was western anti riba beliefs.

i killed it and cracked many theorems we took (or some of us did) that riba is the salvation of muslims,

what drove me was one simple believe, the Quran is right about riba, Allah would not have band it if riba was so good and yet here we had people saying its a done deal that riba is the only way to grow an economy, i disproof it wrong, i would literaly get the answers to searched formulas in my dreams and sleep and wake up with an answer, i released i was genius guided by Allah to bring Islamic economics to the world.

i single handedly showed (with formulas and praxeological evidence ) that riba causes recessions, inflation, gap between rich and poor, resource miss allocation, production stage distortion, foresight miscalculation, forced misdirection of all the stage and factors of production, then i realized i was setting the foundation for Islamic economics and its philosophical framework (all subjects have a PF)

at the same time i joined the institute of economic affairs, AS institute and Cobden centre and other think tanks and once my book was published by my old uni i decided to write a second that explains my theorems, all of these because of passion driven to proof the Qur'an is right and cadaans are wrong no matter what evidence they bring,

I decided to found an Islamic economics school of thought, dont have a name for it yet, though of calling it the Somali school then realised not a good idea, and no such thing really so i will most likely name it the Ogaden Islamic economics school since all economist i lead and teach are Ogadens and one oriental muslim - he is ok with the Ogaden school name.

we still have many things to correct and a long way to go but make dua insha Allah that Ogaden economic school will be the first muslim school for economics thought.

we know are now specialist on monetary economics and cyclical economics but we are literally laying down the foundations for Islamic economics school which we believe has not been done yet like it was done for fiqh, salat etc. , we are not interested in just mere theorems but the foundations of price, utility, money and scarcity.


go to an imam and ask him about salat, saum etc, he knows but doesn't know if derivatives are halal, futures (invented by our Nabi SAW) doesn't know about bonds, options, fractional reserve banking etc, its not their fault, there is an Islamic Philosophical frame works on these economic priories, we are building that,

if anyone wishes to join us, you are welcome (might be put off by the Ogaden school name but be OK with this, the Germans, french and even Austrians have schools named after them yet other foreigners learn their schools) i would love to hear your ideas or read any papers you have done or are working on on any economics/Islamic economics field. specially monetary/capital theory but would be open to anything in any econ field, so welcome



Regards folks,

Ogaden Economic School books will be read by your kids and grand kids Insha Allah across Islamic universities.



no tribalism please

[Hyperactive]

I would take you more serious hadad qabilka iska dikto and talk like muslim economist.

seriously, I enjoy your posts about economics which I never had interests in but as individual, I am thinking serious to have control over my finances and stay as far as I can from riba. but I found so called Islamic bank I deal with is not any difference than next door riba bank!!

so far all my big and small purchases have been in cash. living at hime helped a lot to save and take advantage of my parents but just wondering how average joe can avoid for this trap called "buy now pay later with interests"??

[TeeriReturns]

I would take you more serious hadad qabilka iska dikto and talk like muslim economist.

seriously, I enjoy your posts about economics which I never had interests in but as individual, I am thinking serious to have control over my finances and stay as far as I can from riba. but I found so called Islamic bank I deal with is not any difference than next door riba bank!!

so far all my big and small purchases have been in cash. living at hime helped a lot to save and take advantage of my parents but just wondering how average joe can avoid for this trap called "buy now pay later with interests"??

inader its not about qabil alone, first we are all Ogadens the founders i mean, secondly i am thinking big time, many decades ahead, i am thinking to give my people and land a name and recognition in intellectual circles so when Ethiopia is ready to break apart i will have by then implanted the idea of Ogaden people and nation in every sphere: economically, intellectually, politically, militarily etc., i want the west and other Muslims to recognize and let the name become second nature in their minds, yes a few other tribes live there, let them pick up the gun and pen. intelelctual war, onky we are capable of fighting and negotiating with gun and pen, other somalis are sleeping hence why i have the rights

I primus inter pares sum Ogadeniya/DDSI.


secondly, about your housing isuses, dont bother buying a house in the US for night, etiher wait for prices to go down in the coming recessions or buy cheap from an auction in the repossessed houses or go abroad and build a live there and live like a king, you from qabridhar? or jgjiga? (i gather your a gaadson or one of the xeerta living with reer warfa/reer cabdulle right? or you OG/Absame? why go anywhere else, you have DDSI massively expanding, new airport and uni for 35000 kids in qabridahar, place is building like hot cake, jigjiga alone is growing bounds and leaps annually, why not move there? say whatever you want about uncle Abdi, he is a visionary, i know personally.




dont touch kenya as its too expensive for now, save up and believe me, houses prices will crush no matter what the governemtns do around the global, there are 4 million houses banks are sitting on in the US alone, go to bank possessions auctions bro if you want to live in america, otherwise rent for now and bide your time and take savings of at least 50% in the coming recession, heck buy two if you save enough cash, . invest in silver, very cheap compared to gold, only in real tangible silver, not the ETF crap touted in the markets, and put that silver/gold in a lock/underground, fiat money will die/lose value - its is losing it every day.

[Basra-]

One hour econ lecture/audio in the morning, whilst in the car, at home and an hour in the eening before bed,

listened to 4 audio books a week on average , there is a rule that says to be good at something you must do it for 10,00 hours, takes about 4 years meaning approx 12 hours a week for 4 years, i did about 30 hours a week, in bed, in the kitchen and in the car all i listen to was economcs, from the chinaese (only one man sadly) to the greeks, muslims and westerns.

muslims did not author an economcis book from 1520 till 1944. we want to sleep despite adam smith father of so called economics calling ibn khaldum 14th century Cr. the father of economics

yes we corrected Greek economics and added our won and passed them to the western world through spain. yet our econiomic policies and most improatntly the philiopsical frame work (geeky way of saying foundation) is written by the western man, uff.

i fell in love with economics at aged 14 (father had two degrees in the subject) i realised at aged 18 most of our books are written by cadaan kufaar. and also noticed we charge riba in banks in makkah and medina because we believe we cannot survive with out riba oer grow our economies with out.

i swore in the name of Allah, lord of the worlds who made me an Ogaden landheer that i will take all the wrongs in economics and be the first muslim economist to purify and bring back islamic economics from the forgotten path and rectify it and then create a philosophical foundation based on the quran and hadith,

thus i became ferocious at studying whilst my first degree took me to spain and Uk places to work in econometric, bonds, derivatibves, futures, forex, etc as a trader and in canary wharf,

in 1400 there was only one economics book in the west: st Aquines , Islamic Spain had 70,000 in just one library (so much knowledge lost and burned by those Spanish dogs


here i am today, i have cracked and correct contractum trinius islamic version as a dupe and lie sent to us and designed to subvert islamic contracts as contractum trinius is used to destroy the basis of islamic econmics just like it was western anti riba beliefs.

i killed it and cracked many theorems we took (or some of us did) that riba is the salvation of muslims,

what drove me was one simple believe, the Quran is right about riba, Allah would not have band it if riba was so good and yet here we had people saying its a done deal that riba is the only way to grow an economy, i disproof it wrong, i would literaly get the answers to searched formulas in my dreams and sleep and wake up with an answer, i released i was genius guided by Allah to bring Islamic economics to the world.

i single handedly showed (with formulas and praxeological evidence ) that riba causes recessions, inflation, gap between rich and poor, resource miss allocation, production stage distortion, foresight miscalculation, forced misdirection of all the stage and factors of production, then i realized i was setting the foundation for Islamic economics and its philosophical framework (all subjects have a PF)

at the same time i joined the institute of economic affairs, AS institute and Cobden centre and other think tanks and once my book was published by my old uni i decided to write a second that explains my theorems, all of these because of passion driven to proof the Qur'an is right and cadaans are wrong no matter what evidence they bring,

I decided to found an Islamic economics school of thought, dont have a name for it yet, though of calling it the Somali school then realised not a good idea, and no such thing really so i will most likely name it the Ogaden Islamic economics school since all economist i lead and teach are Ogadens and one oriental muslim - he is ok with the Ogaden school name.

we still have many things to correct and a long way to go but make dua insha Allah that Ogaden economic school will be the first muslim school for economics thought.

we know are now specialist on monetary economics and cyclical economics but we are literally laying down the foundations for Islamic economics school which we believe has not been done yet like it was done for fiqh, salat etc. , we are not interested in just mere theorems but the foundations of price, utility, money and scarcity.


go to an imam and ask him about salat, saum etc, he knows but doesn't know if derivatives are halal, futures (invented by our Nabi SAW) doesn't know about bonds, options, fractional reserve banking etc, its not their fault, there is an Islamic Philosophical frame works on these economic priories, we are building that,

if anyone wishes to join us, you are welcome (might be put off by the Ogaden school name but be OK with this, the Germans, french and even Austrians have schools named after them yet other foreigners learn their schools) i would love to hear your ideas or read any papers you have done or are working on on any economics/Islamic economics field. specially monetary/capital theory but would be open to anything in any econ field, so welcome



Regards folks,

Ogaden Economic School books will be read by your kids and grand kids Insha Allah across Islamic universities.



no tribalism please

I wish u lost weight though

[TeeriReturns]

One hour econ lecture/audio in the morning, whilst in the car, at home and an hour in the eening before bed,

listened to 4 audio books a week on average , there is a rule that says to be good at something you must do it for 10,00 hours, takes about 4 years meaning approx 12 hours a week for 4 years, i did about 30 hours a week, in bed, in the kitchen and in the car all i listen to was economcs, from the chinaese (only one man sadly) to the greeks, muslims and westerns.

muslims did not author an economcis book from 1520 till 1944. we want to sleep despite adam smith father of so called economics calling ibn khaldum 14th century Cr. the father of economics

yes we corrected Greek economics and added our won and passed them to the western world through spain. yet our econiomic policies and most improatntly the philiopsical frame work (geeky way of saying foundation) is written by the western man, uff.

i fell in love with economics at aged 14 (father had two degrees in the subject) i realised at aged 18 most of our books are written by cadaan kufaar. and also noticed we charge riba in banks in makkah and medina because we believe we cannot survive with out riba oer grow our economies with out.

i swore in the name of Allah, lord of the worlds who made me an Ogaden landheer that i will take all the wrongs in economics and be the first muslim economist to purify and bring back islamic economics from the forgotten path and rectify it and then create a philosophical foundation based on the quran and hadith,

thus i became ferocious at studying whilst my first degree took me to spain and Uk places to work in econometric, bonds, derivatibves, futures, forex, etc as a trader and in canary wharf,

in 1400 there was only one economics book in the west: st Aquines , Islamic Spain had 70,000 in just one library (so much knowledge lost and burned by those Spanish dogs


here i am today, i have cracked and correct contractum trinius islamic version as a dupe and lie sent to us and designed to subvert islamic contracts as contractum trinius is used to destroy the basis of islamic econmics just like it was western anti riba beliefs.

i killed it and cracked many theorems we took (or some of us did) that riba is the salvation of muslims,

what drove me was one simple believe, the Quran is right about riba, Allah would not have band it if riba was so good and yet here we had people saying its a done deal that riba is the only way to grow an economy, i disproof it wrong, i would literaly get the answers to searched formulas in my dreams and sleep and wake up with an answer, i released i was genius guided by Allah to bring Islamic economics to the world.

i single handedly showed (with formulas and praxeological evidence ) that riba causes recessions, inflation, gap between rich and poor, resource miss allocation, production stage distortion, foresight miscalculation, forced misdirection of all the stage and factors of production, then i realized i was setting the foundation for Islamic economics and its philosophical framework (all subjects have a PF)

at the same time i joined the institute of economic affairs, AS institute and Cobden centre and other think tanks and once my book was published by my old uni i decided to write a second that explains my theorems, all of these because of passion driven to proof the Qur'an is right and cadaans are wrong no matter what evidence they bring,

I decided to found an Islamic economics school of thought, dont have a name for it yet, though of calling it the Somali school then realised not a good idea, and no such thing really so i will most likely name it the Ogaden Islamic economics school since all economist i lead and teach are Ogadens and one oriental muslim - he is ok with the Ogaden school name.

we still have many things to correct and a long way to go but make dua insha Allah that Ogaden economic school will be the first muslim school for economics thought.

we know are now specialist on monetary economics and cyclical economics but we are literally laying down the foundations for Islamic economics school which we believe has not been done yet like it was done for fiqh, salat etc. , we are not interested in just mere theorems but the foundations of price, utility, money and scarcity.


go to an imam and ask him about salat, saum etc, he knows but doesn't know if derivatives are halal, futures (invented by our Nabi SAW) doesn't know about bonds, options, fractional reserve banking etc, its not their fault, there is an Islamic Philosophical frame works on these economic priories, we are building that,

if anyone wishes to join us, you are welcome (might be put off by the Ogaden school name but be OK with this, the Germans, french and even Austrians have schools named after them yet other foreigners learn their schools) i would love to hear your ideas or read any papers you have done or are working on on any economics/Islamic economics field. specially monetary/capital theory but would be open to anything in any econ field, so welcome



Regards folks,

Ogaden Economic School books will be read by your kids and grand kids Insha Allah across Islamic universities.



no tribalism please

I wish u lost weight though

6''2 Ogaden, very soft hair to ear length, look like a German SS Thor dipped in light chocolate, my non Ogaden wife cries with pleasure with my long shlong and ripped 85 KG of pure muscle, i am under weight for my height. have a jaw line line somali superman, pure Ogaden on all 4 granparents but some other tribes if i go back a generation,,

if i looked at you once your weight and fat body will melt whilst your kastuumo gets drenched with punani juice.

are your idoor or majeerteen? let me know fo you want me to drill you whilst i read economics with the other hand.

[Hyperactive]

war seems you are new here. I have no interest living any where in Africa and I already bought a house in Canada that is empty and eating my cash cause I am paying property tax and management property company. I don't know what to do with it cause my plan to live in Canada isn't working for me at least next couple years.

just before I was living my job in middle east and moving , I got promoted and it was too good to leave now to uncertain to far away land.

I am hesitant to rent out cause I don't know how tenant be and how well they will take care of the property.

any ways, khair inshallah.

[TeeriReturns]

war seems you are new here. I have no interest living any where in Africa and I already bought a house in Canada that is empty and eating my cash cause I am paying property tax and management property company. I don't know what to do with it cause my plan to live in Canada isn't working for me at least next couple years.

just before I was living my job in middle east and moving , I got promoted and it was too good to leave now to uncertain to far away land.

I am hesitant to rent out cause I don't know how tenant be and how well they will take care of the property.

any ways, khair inshallah.

not new here, been here since 2008, just took a few years from responding, got a new nick.

can you not rent the house? (bad idea buying a house in Canada by the way, riba/halal mortgage? )

seriously bro, one of the beautifies of knowing real economics is it gives you an insight into how things work, specially Islamic/Austrian school economics.

[Hyperactive]

i dont do riba, wah iku so gabada an ogeyn moyee. also i dont believe going to debt no matter what. i would loose my sleep thinking about it.

[Amirsade]

my favorite person in this subject is non other than, mr fool by randomness himself, nassim nickolas taleb, his book the antifrigile is must read, and if you can connect the dots between economy and politics, you would have forseen someone like Donald trump's win, the blackswan president\\\\\\\\\

[UlteriorMotive]

muslims did not author an economcis book from 1520 till 1944. we want to sleep despite adam smith father of so called economics calling ibn khaldum 14th century Cr. the father of economics

yes we corrected Greek economics and added our won and passed them to the western world through spain. yet our econiomic policies and most improatntly the philiopsical frame work (geeky way of saying foundation) is written by the western man, uff.

i fell in love with economics at aged 14 (father had two degrees in the subject) i realised at aged 18 most of our books are written by cadaan kufaar. and also noticed we charge riba in banks in makkah and medina because we believe we cannot survive with out riba oer grow our economies with out.

Loool at ''we'' everywhere. Why do Somalis hide behind what other people accomplished under the guise of Islam? Gulf Arabs do this as well. A lot of the brilliance in the golden age of Islam can be attributed to North Africans (such as Ibn Khaldun) and Persians/Iranians.

Somalis insult cadaans and others while contributing nothing to the world.

[TheMightyNomad]

TeeriReturns you brought up a great topic. I agree with you that Muslims have ignored their own intellectual heritage while its been fully exploited by Gaalo's. The difference is that the epistemology of western economic philosophy is exchanged with Atheism and vulgar individualism.

I suggest you look into Somalinomics and how much Religious philosophy and Somali clan structure plays a role in Economic development in the Somali community.

Our Economic philosophy being based on collectivism & dependency makes it a stark contrast to the West's individualism and corrupt capitalism.Where every individuals purpose in life is to enrich his sole self ,indifferent to how it effects the people around him.

Unlike the west we are charitable and communal in our nature & i love that aspect of Somali people.

The role of culture on entrepreneurial development among the Somali community
http://ir-library.ku.ac.ke/handle/123456789/2112

Religion is the major Somali cultural practices that affect entrepreneurship. This is because other elements of Somali culture derive their existence within the wider scope of religious practices. The Somali community's entrepreneurship development patterns operate and are modeled on communal synergy resulting in a model of multiplier effect.On how cultural perspectives enhance entrepreneurship development, it can be deduced that the Somali community practice a tight and collective culture laced with and operated within the wider aspect of religion and teachings of the Holy Quaran. They hold spectacular cultural practices intertwined with the Islamic faith that affects entrepreneurship. The community's social and cultural oriented fosters entrepreneurship development as demonstrated by their collectivism on many societal issues. The Somali Community culture on its own can therefore be regarded as social capital in the relationships and networks from which members can derive institutional support that is cumulative hence having multiplier-effect on entrepreneurial development.
Patterns of informal insurance are eminent among these Somali community business owners as risks in venture failures are covered through community support. This implies almost an uncertainty free business environment among the community's entrepreneurs. The business mentoring model among the Somali entrepreneurship confirms and resonates with the findings of Bandura (1997) on the human capacity to learn by observation enables others to learn from other model entrepreneurs.While gains in entrepreneurial startups may be achieved through the mentoring and business support programs, the entrepreneurs' support for the less fortunate in the 32 society through provision of consumables breed a dependency syndrome which may outplay the gains so far.The overall conclusion is that culture is a casual agent of entrepreneurial development and the Somali culture intertwined with religion fosters the development of entrepreneurial skills, venture funding and sustainability.

[TheMightyNomad]

Loool at ''we'' everywhere. Why do Somalis hide behind what other people accomplished under the guise of Islam? Gulf Arabs do this as well. A lot of the brilliance in the golden age of Islam can be attributed to North Africans (such as Ibn Khaldun) and Persians/Iranians.

No one is hiding behind anything. Not one single group has a monopoly on knowledge and wisdom especially the fruits of Golden age of Islam, which any Muslim can learn from and part of the Islamic intellectual heritage. Even their website states this http://www.muslimheritage.com/about-us It was an islamic thing.

It is also very reductionist to say that Islam can be attributed to only North Africans or Persians, because you would leave out a lot of contributions and many groups.

Imagine if i were to say ''Why do Scandinavians,Anglo's-Germanics hide behind what other people accomplished under the guise of Europeanism?''
Heck Western Europe stands on the legacy of Greco-Roman accomplishments, they claim it as part of their civilization. Without having direct genetic claim to the past.

The Founding fathers of America attached themselves to the Roman democracy as a continuation of their legacy.

There is no shame in that. Why? because no one has a monopoly on wisdom, knowledge and technology. It is something that is shared and advanced.

The Greatest European invention was the patent

What made Europe into a powerhouse was how they took what was foreign and made it work for them.

Somalis insult cadaans and others while contributing nothing to the world.

As independent human beings we can take dislike and disagreement to other peoples beliefs and practices. So all of sudden we have to nod our heads to other peoples whims on the basis of perceived superiority. We are people who garner individuality and can think for ourselves.

Somalis have contributed substantially within the unique corridors of Africa, we are steadily leading a small business empire and has contributed historically to the wider Muslim world.

[Tuushi]

Where are these books,theories and formulas?I would love to read your contents.

[TeeriReturns]

TeeriReturns you brought up a great topic. I agree with you that Muslims have ignored their own intellectual heritage while its been fully exploited by Gaalo's. The difference is that the epistemology of western economic philosophy is exchanged with Atheism and vulgar individualism.

I suggest you look into Somalinomics and how much Religious philosophy and Somali clan structure plays a role in Economic development in the Somali community.

Our Economic philosophy being based on collectivism & dependency makes it a stark contrast to the West's individualism and corrupt capitalism.Where every individuals purpose in life is to enrich his sole self ,indifferent to how it effects the people around him.

Unlike the west we are charitable and communal in our nature & i love that aspect of Somali people.

The role of culture on entrepreneurial development among the Somali community
http://ir-library.ku.ac.ke/handle/123456789/2112

Religion is the major Somali cultural practices that affect entrepreneurship. This is because other elements of Somali culture derive their existence within the wider scope of religious practices. The Somali community's entrepreneurship development patterns operate and are modeled on communal synergy resulting in a model of multiplier effect.On how cultural perspectives enhance entrepreneurship development, it can be deduced that the Somali community practice a tight and collective culture laced with and operated within the wider aspect of religion and teachings of the Holy Quaran. They hold spectacular cultural practices intertwined with the Islamic faith that affects entrepreneurship. The community's social and cultural oriented fosters entrepreneurship development as demonstrated by their collectivism on many societal issues. The Somali Community culture on its own can therefore be regarded as social capital in the relationships and networks from which members can derive institutional support that is cumulative hence having multiplier-effect on entrepreneurial development.
Patterns of informal insurance are eminent among these Somali community business owners as risks in venture failures are covered through community support. This implies almost an uncertainty free business environment among the community's entrepreneurs. The business mentoring model among the Somali entrepreneurship confirms and resonates with the findings of Bandura (1997) on the human capacity to learn by observation enables others to learn from other model entrepreneurs.While gains in entrepreneurial startups may be achieved through the mentoring and business support programs, the entrepreneurs' support for the less fortunate in the 32 society through provision of consumables breed a dependency syndrome which may outplay the gains so far.The overall conclusion is that culture is a casual agent of entrepreneurial development and the Somali culture intertwined with religion fosters the development of entrepreneurial skills, venture funding and sustainability.

Mighty you have brought up excellent suggestion bro, somalis have some of the most trusting business partnership, you can money from a nd goes to b simply with a handshake (xawalad system) and even ayooto is a very interesting financing model to Western economics i know who are impressed at how it works (because we are a trusting race with it comes to money, not so when it comes to politics)

many thanks for the suggestions, lots of rich sources to be taken from the somalis, will definitely look into it, our school is laying the foundations and the epistemological frame work right now for Islamic economics as we believe it has not been done so/or finalized yet (remember Muslims did not write an economics books between 1520 and 1944) but thanks for your forthcoming recommendations.


your grasp of economics and epistemological foresight is far superior than many on this forum.

[gurey25]

Same here, what you said sounds interesting.
What do you think of Modern Monetary Theory.
And Hyman Minsky?