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The greatest country on earth?

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Is it Russia? This country has an incredible history. It's the country that defeated both Hitler and Napoleon; the country whose army marched from the Sea of Japan, the Ural Mountains in central Asia, the Artic Siberia and the baltic sea, to streets of Paris.

This country has an awsome history :blessed:
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Overrated in fact Russia has never went to a war alone.

World war 1,2. It had the whole west fighting Germany.


Russia s are primitive pussies and over hyped the Mongols did great number on them .
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The Mongolia taught them allot and was one of the factors distancing them from the rest of Europe and creating the Russian identity.

Ww2 was mostly the soviets, Most of the Nazi military fought on the eastern front, most of the casualties were in the east.

The western allies are overhyped, they fought second rate German troops, the ones with the least training and experience and the lowest priority in weapons.
They still have a hard fight.

Imagine if a truce was formed with the soviets and the Germans could move half of the troops in the east to the west.

The allies would have been smashed to pieces and run like hell a second Dunkirk.
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Dalkeyga hooyo, dadkeyga dhamaan :blessed:
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The Russians have been defeated a shitload of times, a number of times against the Polish, they ganged up on the Swedes in the great northern war and even then were lucky, they were unable to defeat Prussia in the seven years war, after expanding against primitive Siberians their expansion to the South was beaten back by Qing Chinese, they lost the Crimean war, they were beaten a number of times by Napoleon and employed indirect tactics against him in his invasion, they were severally beaten by Japan, got battered by Germans in WW1. And primarily won ww2 due to the fact the Germans had to deal with a two front war and lend lease.
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gurey25 wrote:The Mongolia taught them allot and was one of the factors distancing them from the rest of Europe and creating the Russian identity.

Ww2 was mostly the soviets, Most of the Nazi military fought on the eastern front, most of the casualties were in the east.

The western allies are overhyped, they fought second rate German troops, the ones with the least training and experience and the lowest priority in weapons.
They still have a hard fight.

Imagine if a truce was formed with the soviets and the Germans could move half of the troops in the east to the west.

The allies would have been smashed to pieces and run like hell a second Dunkirk.



How on earth did tiny German with relatively small population became that powerful? They did it 20yrs
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Quality manpower due to the best education system in the world.
Until recently the stereotype of a scientist was someone with a German accent.

To understand how powerful they were consider that their organisational structure for industry was completely wrong.
They duplicated efforts, massive mismanagement of resources and it still took all the western allies and the soviets to defeat them.

People who engage in counter factual history, what if scenarios always try to imagine a Nazi Germany with a sane organisation.

Frightening.
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Nothing great about Russia at the moment!
Shrinking population, no meaningful economic growth, east Asians will probably takeover and annex eastern Siberia in the future.
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samatar133 wrote:Nothing great about Russia at the moment!
Shrinking population, no meaningful economic growth, east Asians will probably takeover and annex eastern Siberia in the future.
You dont follow the news do you?
rehashing old predictions from 2014.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/13/russia-e ... 7-imf.html
IMF and world bank finally admit that russia survived the sanctions well and will return to growth next year.
The ruble bounced back within months of the sanctions, and is one the best preforming currencies today.
The British pound did as bad as the ruble so did the danish kroner but nobody talked about the decline of their economies.

During Putins rule the death rate has plummted and birth rates have increased, demographic picture looks promising, unlike Italy or germany, or Japan.

wishful thinking about siberia, but the future looks rosey.
Chinese will not immigrate in numbers without infrastructure and there will be increased immigration from european russia as well as europe as new incentives kick in.
Russia is considering giving away free land in siberia, due to global warming millions of hectares are now farmable but there is no manpower.
China and Russia are in a strategic relationship so there is no chance of conflict in siberia , infact russians want more chinese immigrants.
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Im not even talking about their current status, but their historic achievements. It's remarkable that they've effevtively controlled and rules such a vast land for centuries. Russia is in my opinion the only great empire that has survived into the 21st century.
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Futurist wrote:Im not even talking about their current status, but their historic achievements. It's remarkable that they've effevtively controlled and rules such a vast land for centuries. Russia is in my opinion the only great empire that has survived into the 21st century.

hence the venomous hatred towards Russia.
They were not supposed to survive, the only time the west and its media had a good impression of russia was when that drunk fool yeltsin was in charge and the country was literally falling apart.

They made the same mistkae they did with the bolsheviks they sponsered, they let a junior with little influence a nobody really
called stalin, to enter the politburo because he was a good adminstrator and kept his mouth shut.
The same with putin, a nobody who slipped in by pretending to be weak and willing to do all the dirty and boring administrative jobs that nobody wanted.
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In ancient, medieval and classic history the Russians were never on par with other powerhouses. Had it not been for Hitler's 6th Army division deployment in Stalingrad (arguably the most irrational move Hitler ever made in his tenure) the Russians would never have become the Soviet Union and thus a global superpower.

In conclusion, the greatness of Russia in the last century happened primarily by accident. Nothing great about that. It would have been stupid had the Kremlin not capitalised on the stupidity of the Axis forces.
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Mother Russia.

Never had an impact on the world in the vast majority of its ancient, medieval or classical history. In contemporary times, had it not been for Hitler's adventurism in deploying the 6th army division to tour Stalingrad (arguably the most irrational move ever made his tenure), there would be no Soviet Union.
Russia became great by accident. To not have capitalised on that would be doing a 'Somalia' in world politics.

A nation of savage barbarians. Gog and Magog. The curse of the North. The initiator of the Plague. Commies.
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Futurist wrote:Is it Russia? This country has an incredible history. It's the country that defeated both Hitler and Napoleon; the country whose army marched from the Sea of Japan, the Ural Mountains in central Asia, the Artic Siberia and the baltic sea, to streets of Paris.

This country has an awsome history :blessed:

The winter defeated Germany and Napoleon, not the russians, but it's cold weather and vastness.

Don't forget they got karbaashed by the japanese in 1905 and way before that both mongols and tartars conquered and ruled Russia.
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The russians look cool , the mixture of Europe and Asia , way cool. Their language sounds cool too but I herd they were brought to prominence by Catherine the Great , a man consuming German :lol:
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