who will be the dark horse jibril or farmajo?

[sahal80]

i have f-king information that Garguurte is hugely ahead of CC but cant say details

however he is not alone and things can change in the third round...according to his supporters he still needs around 30-50(depends on their presence) votes so we may see last-minute goal by some dark horse candidate

No one likes both garguurte and buur so let us guess who will be the lucky guy and who can score the third position in the second round? my guess is farmajo or either jibril or cosoble

farmajo would depend on garguurte/ dj/islamist votes

osoble would depend on cc/ pl/ votes

jibril has no allies but he is seen as the best abgaal candidate, i dont know him but i have few sources who know more his personal life than his work

i watched his interviews and i think he believes in two things; a bottom- up approach having worked in reconciliations, this is opposite of the djs failed top down approach

the second one is since he knows the donors and how to make money hes likely to build fairer financial and justice institutions

the good thing about farmaajo is that hes the most pro dawlad(statehood) and less pro-clan/region politician i have ever seen. if i give you example he was once visiting italy where he signed contracts to equip the somali police...after his removal gass has continued this file and visited italy without the interior minister! finally the police vehicles were sent to PL and yes gaas has admitted this during his campain in PL

of course you can say xamar police does not represent all somalis and PL police is part of somali police but it was done in the name of the TFG!

im not against it well done guys just as example

so farmajo is a honest guy and we know him. he paid the army their wages, was using public planes, refusing to stay in 5 star hotels But im afraid he may make fatal clashes beacuse of the deep rooted corruption and warlords in xamar...its the same reason why sanbalolshe lost his job as NISA director.....there r people who r using mps, ministers another is picking a non abgaal candidate and smooth thinks that the abgaals of xamar will revolt against him bc of this and his murursade connections but nothing will happen in hirshabelle and galmudug

farmajo is known being undiplomatic, he was hated by the UNPOS workers in nairobi as pressed them to operate from mogadishu, hated by Amisom for becoming against their rotation this is the biggest reason why uganda was against him

these countries armies r trained by the US before sending them to mogadishu, their generals got free schollarship so somalia is for them is a training field and getting paid good money. farmaajo said to them this will cause a setback and will take ages for the new army to adopt to the area

now farmajo says the first thing he is going to do is to go everwhere with a somali bodyguard and not AMISOM!


4 years and garguurte cant go to the airport or the parliament without AMISOM. OMG!!

[original dervish]

Thanks for the insight friend.......however this is just a dog and pony show.
Somalia has no sovereignty and will be in such a state for years to come.

[sahal80]

Thanks for the insight friend.......however this is just a dog and pony show.
Somalia has no sovereignty and will be in such a state for years to come.

[Halmogg]

Sahal, when will the selection/bribery process begin?

Thanks for the insight friend.......however this is just a dog and pony show.
Somalia has no sovereignty and will be in such a state for years to come.

spot on mate

[sahal80]

Sahal, when will the selection/bribery process begin?

Thanks for the insight friend.......however this is just a dog and pony show.
Somalia has no sovereignty and will be in such a state for years to come.

spot on mate

20 january. waqooyi seats r remained and few disputed reagional seats. dhulbahante got 1 more upper house seat; 3 but not sure in wich name as GOL claims. they entered alliance with dirta waqooyi

https://midnimo.com/2016/12/24/siyaasiy ... alka-sare/

this account covers the selections
https://mobile.twitter.com/wakiilorg/st ... 9114657792

http://www.garoweonline.com/en/news/som ... he-process

[smooth]

So this Jibril dude whom hasn't really travelled to any other federal state, went to P/land and announced "that the only state that looks governmental and runs things in Somalia is Puntland"

He said this without visiting any other states to loud cheers and ululation of the population, Baadiyow said the same thing in Kenya when he never even visited Puntland.

At a time when Somalia is divided, and even worse not having visited any other state outside of it, to make such a comment is not only very none presidential but absolutely moronic to the highest order, even if it was a factual thing which it clearly isn't.

With that statement alone he has insulted S/land, Galmudug, South West whom are all opposed to her, and you can argue also Hiirshabelle, it's a statement that makes no strategic sense, is not factual and will only make him loose votes, not gain any.

If he doesn't have the mental capacity to make such a critical strategic distinction, what do you think he will do when he actually runs the country? no other leader has done this in this race, to insult every other state, this is unprecedented, what a complete moron he is, he has no chance whatsoever unless a hurricane happens.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

So this Jibril dude whom hasn't really travelled to any other federal state, went to P/land and announced "that the only state that looks governmental and runs things in Somalia is Puntland"

He said this without visiting any other states to loud cheers and ululation of the population, Baadiyow said the same thing in Kenya when he never even visited Puntland.

At a time when Somalia is divided, and even worse not having visited any other state outside of it, to make such a comment is not only very none presidential but absolutely moronic to the highest order, even if it was a factual thing which it clearly isn't.

With that statement alone he has insulted S/land, Galmudug, South West whom are all opposed to her, and you can argue also Hiirshabelle, it's a statement that makes no strategic sense, is not factual and will only make him loose votes, not gain any.

If he doesn't have the mental capacity to make such a critical strategic distinction, what do you think he will do when he actually runs the country? no other leader has done this in this race, to insult every other state, this is unprecedented, what a complete moron he is, he has no chance whatsoever unless a hurricane happens.

Jibriil has went to PL, KIsmayo and Baydhabo

[AwRastaale]

Who the fock is CC? Adobe CC (Creative Cloud)?

Anyways all these names are irrelevant. All you need to know is there will be an Abgaal president.

If Dirta Waqooyi has backed and invested behind an Abgaal, that's a smart move.

Otherwise they are idiots who will be soon unemployed even in Wanlawein terms.

If Sahal is backing non-Abgaal our brother can't either see things clear or his indifference over Hirshabeele is getting the best of him.

My money is on Abgaal. Give me their candidates and I will bet 1/4.

[sahal80]

Who the fock is CC? Adobe CC (Creative Cloud)?

Anyways all these names are irrelevant. All you need to know is there will be an Abgaal president.

If Dirta Waqooyi has backed and invested behind an Abgaal, that's a smart move.

Otherwise they are idiots who will be soon unemployed even in Wanlawein terms.

If Sahal is backing non-Abgaal our brother can't either see things clear or his indifference over Hirshabeele is getting the best of him.

My money is on Abgaal. Give me their candidates and I will bet 1/4.

cumar buur the PM, a short form of cumar cabdi rashid cali sharmarke) yes im onto Non-abgaal candidate but i wont pick a mj over an abgaal bc the latter doesnt cause instability.

i would have liked if there was more HAG pro-islamist competitive candidates from cayr, sacad....clearly this al shabaab shyt would have been stopped....HG are found more in the south than abgaal like lower shabelle where al shabaab orgonizes its attacks from they r now turning a blind eye to the situation. the whole al shabaab military power was created by adan cayrow...we need a reconciliation not AMISOM...al shabab and HG have clashed and by reviving and empowering the hizbul islam and indhacaddo elements you can insert control in the military arena(aint dividing hiraab just speaking politically)


learned from political sources that 4 candidates are leading two are abgaals(garguurte and jibril) the other two one is CC so who will be the fourth? farmajo or sakiin?

[AwRastaale]

Sahal,

Thanks but you and I and all Somalis including Jeberti know none of their candidates stand a chance. The Abgaal and House of HAG are just putting on a show for the international community to make things look more legit but we all know no HAG can win in Garowe as he can't stand in Hargeisa...Mogadishu too is secured for HAG and in particular Abgaal despite marketed as "capital of Somalia". Who cares if it's capital. Who dominates dominates and upsetting the locals will ignite an all out war like Abdillahi Yusuf days who gotten away because of the Ethiopians.

Today the gentlemen agreement including regional and international players is no one should get presidency except Abgaal because that ensures most stability.

HAG will attack a Jeberti president.

HG president sees beyond Mudug and Galgaduud...they are expansionists and want to go toe to toe with regional players.

Abgaal is more reserved and is happy with his Heaven called Xamar and beeso (money).

So the IC would rather keep him happy.

The HG still eats good because outside the Villa, on the streets, they are hustling and remain above any law including invading other nomads as pleased. Abgaal will turn a blind eye as long as they don't turn things into Aideed-style.

So my friend you either back the street hustler or the Villa boy.

[Halmogg]

Thanks sahal

So this Jibril dude whom hasn't really travelled to any other federal state, went to P/land and announced "that the only state that looks governmental and runs things in Somalia is Puntland"

He said this without visiting any other states to loud cheers and ululation of the population, Baadiyow said the same thing in Kenya when he never even visited Puntland.

At a time when Somalia is divided, and even worse not having visited any other state outside of it, to make such a comment is not only very none presidential but absolutely moronic to the highest order, even if it was a factual thing which it clearly isn't.

With that statement alone he has insulted S/land, Galmudug, South West whom are all opposed to her, and you can argue also Hiirshabelle, it's a statement that makes no strategic sense, is not factual and will only make him loose votes, not gain any.

If he doesn't have the mental capacity to make such a critical strategic distinction, what do you think he will do when he actually runs the country? no other leader has done this in this race, to insult every other state, this is unprecedented, what a complete moron he is, he has no chance whatsoever unless a hurricane happens.

Classic caqli hutu right there

[Halmogg]

Sahal,

Thanks but you and I and all Somalis including Jeberti know none of their candidates stand a chance. The Abgaal and House of HAG are just putting on a show for the international community to make things look more legit but we all know no HAG can win in Garowe as he can't stand in Hargeisa...Mogadishu too is secured for HAG and in particular Abgaal despite marketed as "capital of Somalia". Who cares if it's capital. Who dominates dominates and upsetting the locals will ignite an all out war like Abdillahi Yusuf days who gotten away because of the Ethiopians.

Today the gentlemen agreement including regional and international players is no one should get presidency except Abgaal because that ensures most stability.

HAG will attack a Jeberti president.

HG president sees beyond Mudug and Galgaduud...they are expansionists and want to go toe to toe with regional players.

Abgaal is more reserved and is happy with his Heaven called Xamar and beeso (money).

So the IC would rather keep him happy.

The HG still eats good because outside the Villa, on the streets, they are hustling and remain above any law including invading other nomads as pleased. Abgaal will turn a blind eye as long as they don't turn things into Aideed-style.

So my friend you either back the street hustler or the Villa boy.

Yep, you got it.

[smooth]

So this Jibril dude whom hasn't really travelled to any other federal state, went to P/land and announced "that the only state that looks governmental and runs things in Somalia is Puntland"

Jibriil has went to PL, KIsmayo and Baydhabo

Abti

I said "really hasn't" meaning those trips were very quick hasty and short, however he stayed in P/land for several days toured around and gave that speech, he didn't tour around those other places it grab and go.

When you make a statement like that regardless whether you believe its factual or not, you are basically implying every other state J/land Galmudug, Hiirshabelle, Benadir, Somaliland, South-west are all the opposite of "governmental", it's a vicious insult abti to all, and inconsiderate statement in this current climate of division.

It makes no political or strategic sense unless your running for P/land, even Faroole has come out stating elements in this current P/land administrations are blood thirsty, and there is wide scale insecurity, but Jibriil thinks otherwise, please make sense of it if you could, I know you support the lad.

[sahal80]

Sahal,

Thanks but you and I and all Somalis including Jeberti know none of their candidates stand a chance. The Abgaal and House of HAG are just putting on a show for the international community to make things look more legit but we all know no HAG can win in Garowe as he can't stand in Hargeisa...Mogadishu too is secured for HAG and in particular Abgaal despite marketed as "capital of Somalia". Who cares if it's capital. Who dominates dominates and upsetting the locals will ignite an all out war like Abdillahi Yusuf days who gotten away because of the Ethiopians.

Today the gentlemen agreement including regional and international players is no one should get presidency except Abgaal because that ensures most stability.

HAG will attack a Jeberti president.

HG president sees beyond Mudug and Galgaduud...they are expansionists and want to go toe to toe with regional players.

Abgaal is more reserved and is happy with his Heaven called Xamar and beeso (money).

So the IC would rather keep him happy.

The HG still eats good because outside the Villa, on the streets, they are hustling and remain above any law including invading other nomads as pleased. Abgaal will turn a blind eye as long as they don't turn things into Aideed-style.

So my friend you either back the street hustler or the Villa boy.

we will see!

i tbink it depends on money, ethiopia and who gets Dir and D&M votes

[sahal80]

So this Jibril dude whom hasn't really travelled to any other federal state, went to P/land and announced "that the only state that looks governmental and runs things in Somalia is Puntland"

Jibriil has went to PL, KIsmayo and Baydhabo

Abti

I said "really hasn't" meaning those trips were very quick hasty and short, however he stayed in P/land for several days toured around and gave that speech, he didn't tour around those other places it grab and go.

When you make a statement like that regardless whether you believe its factual or not, you are basically implying every other state J/land Galmudug, Hiirshabelle, Benadir, Somaliland, South-west are all the opposite of "governmental", it's a vicious insult abti to all, and inconsiderate statement in this current climate of division.

It makes no political or strategic sense unless your running for P/land, even Faroole has come out stating elements in this current P/land administrations are blood thirsty, and there is wide scale insecurity, but Jibriil thinks otherwise, please make sense of it if you could, I know you support the lad.

f-king garguurte and cc in order to get rid of the rival candidates on both sides they r asking for 20 mps. hearing important candidates struggling with this. WTF!

this is not elections f-king shyt!