Osmanya and kaddare
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Osmanya and kaddare
I feel osmanya and kaddare should be mixed into one so that there's no division and everyone would learn it. I have the whole day to myself since it's Christmas and it only takes a few hours to learn an script so I'm just gonna be productive and learn osmanya and kaddare! When I'm done I'm going to teach my family it and once I have children inshallah I'm going to teach them it too. I urge everyone to learn at least one of the scripts
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Re: Osmanya and kaddare
Linguists recommended that both scripts to be mixed, Kaddare had Upper/lower case letters (cursive and capitals) while Osmanya had numerals/glottal stop. Until siyaad barre nominated his kin script which Galal played a huge role but wasn't mentioned in the kacaan books.PanSomaliNationalist wrote:I feel osmanya and kaddare should be mixed into one so that there's no division and everyone would learn it. I have the whole day to myself since it's Christmas and it only takes a few hours to learn an script so I'm just gonna be productive and learn osmanya and kaddare! When I'm done I'm going to teach my family it and once I have children inshallah I'm going to teach them it too. I urge everyone to learn at least one of the scripts
Linguist reports from the 1960's - http://dspace-roma3.caspur.it/bitstream ... vorato.pdf
http://dspace-roma3.caspur.it/bitstream ... 201961.pdf
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Re: Osmanya and kaddare
I know right! Most of the population can't write or read so it's not too late and for the people that already know latin stop being a lazy ass it only takes an hour tops to learn one script!GalliumerianSlayer wrote:Linguists recommended that both scripts to be mixed, Kaddare had Upper/lower case letters (cursive and capitals) while Osmanya had numerals/glottal stop. Until siyaad barre nominated his kin script which Galal played a huge role but wasn't mentioned in the kacaan books.PanSomaliNationalist wrote:I feel osmanya and kaddare should be mixed into one so that there's no division and everyone would learn it. I have the whole day to myself since it's Christmas and it only takes a few hours to learn an script so I'm just gonna be productive and learn osmanya and kaddare! When I'm done I'm going to teach my family it and once I have children inshallah I'm going to teach them it too. I urge everyone to learn at least one of the scripts
Linguist reports from the 1960's - http://dspace-roma3.caspur.it/bitstream ... vorato.pdf
http://dspace-roma3.caspur.it/bitstream ... 201961.pdf
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Re: Osmanya and kaddare
Osmanya numerals

Kaddare cursive letters/capital letters

Osmanya had separate characters for the double vowels too unlike Kaddare which you would have to write the same vowel twice (AA).
Just had extra tones part of the alphabet, maay alphabet letters (NY, NG, TH, JH, P AND GH) and the remaining Arabic letters غ ض ظ ز ث ذ ص and you will have a great alphabet system.
غ = same as Maay GH.
They are three tones in Somali by the way.
When needed, the conventions for marking tone on written Somali are as follows:
acute accent - high tone
grave accent - low tone
circumflex - falling tone
Somali is a TONAL language, tones must be presented too.
Thus the complete alphabet would be...
Vowels;
A, AA,
U, UU,
O, OO,
I, II,
E, EE
Consonants;
' (glottal stop, osmanya had a separate character), B, T, J, X, KH, D, R, S, SH, DH, C, G, F, Q, K, L, M, N, W, H, Y, A, E, I, O, U.
P (MAAY), GH (MAAY, similar as غ), TH (MAAY), NG (MAAY), Y' (MAAY) AND JH( MAAY)
Remaining arabic letters; ض ظ ص زذ ث

Kaddare cursive letters/capital letters

Osmanya had separate characters for the double vowels too unlike Kaddare which you would have to write the same vowel twice (AA).
Just had extra tones part of the alphabet, maay alphabet letters (NY, NG, TH, JH, P AND GH) and the remaining Arabic letters غ ض ظ ز ث ذ ص and you will have a great alphabet system.
غ = same as Maay GH.
They are three tones in Somali by the way.
When needed, the conventions for marking tone on written Somali are as follows:
acute accent - high tone
grave accent - low tone
circumflex - falling tone
Somali is a TONAL language, tones must be presented too.
Thus the complete alphabet would be...
Vowels;
A, AA,
U, UU,
O, OO,
I, II,
E, EE
Consonants;
' (glottal stop, osmanya had a separate character), B, T, J, X, KH, D, R, S, SH, DH, C, G, F, Q, K, L, M, N, W, H, Y, A, E, I, O, U.
P (MAAY), GH (MAAY, similar as غ), TH (MAAY), NG (MAAY), Y' (MAAY) AND JH( MAAY)
Remaining arabic letters; ض ظ ص زذ ث
Re: Osmanya and kaddare
Intresting, reer pl should adopt the osmaniya
Re: Osmanya and kaddare
This is an awesome idea, although i think the osmanya alphabet are impressive, i also think it resembles the amharic alphabet to much which is a big turn off. But the kaddare alphabet is very beautiful wallahi



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Re: Osmanya and kaddare
That's why I call for a mix. I was originally gonna say we should use this alphabetTijoux wrote:This is an awesome idea, although i think the osmanya alphabet are impressive, i also think it resembles the amharic alphabet to much which is a big turn off. But the kaddare alphabet is very beautiful wallahi![]()

It's called sumado and it was used by isse. It's old asf hieroglyphics used by puntite somalis and i would suggest it but it looks too old and would be a lot of work to learn.
And If you say kaddare a lot of darod would be mad and vice versa so a mix would be best because we would all agree on it! I got a week off work and school so I'm just gonna learn both
Re: Osmanya and kaddare
That looks nice, but i agree , it looks old, almost like the ancient egyptian alphbets? Yeah thats a good idea broPanSomaliNationalist wrote:That's why I call for a mix. I was originally gonna say we should use this alphabetTijoux wrote:This is an awesome idea, although i think the osmanya alphabet are impressive, i also think it resembles the amharic alphabet to much which is a big turn off. But the kaddare alphabet is very beautiful wallahi![]()
It's called sumado and it was used by isse. It's old asf hieroglyphics used by puntite somalis and i would suggest it but it looks too old and would be a lot of work to learn.
And If you say kaddare a lot of darod would be mad and vice versa so a mix would be best because we would all agree on it! I got a week off work and school so I'm just gonna learn both


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Re: Osmanya and kaddare
Yup It was actually heavily based off of the egyptian alphabetTijoux wrote:That looks nice, but i agree , it looks old, almost like the ancient egyptian alphbets? Yeah thats a good idea broPanSomaliNationalist wrote:That's why I call for a mix. I was originally gonna say we should use this alphabetTijoux wrote:This is an awesome idea, although i think the osmanya alphabet are impressive, i also think it resembles the amharic alphabet to much which is a big turn off. But the kaddare alphabet is very beautiful wallahi
It's called sumado and it was used by isse. It's old asf hieroglyphics used by puntite somalis and i would suggest it but it looks too old and would be a lot of work to learn.
And If you say kaddare a lot of darod would be mad and vice versa so a mix would be best because we would all agree on it! I got a week off work and school so I'm just gonna learn both![]()


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Re: Osmanya and kaddare
OO=ÖGalliumerianSlayer wrote:Osmanya numerals
Kaddare cursive letters/capital letters
Osmanya had separate characters for the double vowels too unlike Kaddare which you would have to write the same vowel twice (AA).
Just had extra tones part of the alphabet, maay alphabet letters (NY, NG, TH, JH, P AND GH) and the remaining Arabic letters غ ض ظ ز ث ذ ص and you will have a great alphabet system.
غ = same as Maay GH.
They are three tones in Somali by the way.
When needed, the conventions for marking tone on written Somali are as follows:
acute accent - high tone
grave accent - low tone
circumflex - falling tone
Somali is a TONAL language, tones must be presented too.
Thus the complete alphabet would be...
Vowels;
A, AA,
U, UU,
O, OO,
I, II,
E, EE
Consonants;
' (glottal stop, osmanya had a separate character), B, T, J, X, KH, D, R, S, SH, DH, C, G, F, Q, K, L, M, N, W, H, Y, A, E, I, O, U.
P (MAAY), GH (MAAY, similar as غ), TH (MAAY), NG (MAAY), Y' (MAAY) AND JH( MAAY)
Remaining arabic letters; ض ظ ص زذ ث
AA=Ä
EE=Ë
Hooyo= höyo
Aabo=Äbo
Re: Osmanya and kaddare
Crazy hieroglyphics.
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Re: Osmanya and kaddare
Kaddare and osmanya are 1930 scriptsX.Playa wrote:Crazy hieroglyphics.
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Re: Kaddare and osmanya
Kaddare and osmanya are 1930 scriptsX.Playa wrote:Crazy hieroglyphics.
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