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Osmanya and kaddare

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I feel osmanya and kaddare should be mixed into one so that there's no division and everyone would learn it. I have the whole day to myself since it's Christmas and it only takes a few hours to learn an script so I'm just gonna be productive and learn osmanya and kaddare! When I'm done I'm going to teach my family it and once I have children inshallah I'm going to teach them it too. I urge everyone to learn at least one of the scripts
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PanSomaliNationalist wrote:I feel osmanya and kaddare should be mixed into one so that there's no division and everyone would learn it. I have the whole day to myself since it's Christmas and it only takes a few hours to learn an script so I'm just gonna be productive and learn osmanya and kaddare! When I'm done I'm going to teach my family it and once I have children inshallah I'm going to teach them it too. I urge everyone to learn at least one of the scripts
Linguists recommended that both scripts to be mixed, Kaddare had Upper/lower case letters (cursive and capitals) while Osmanya had numerals/glottal stop. Until siyaad barre nominated his kin script which Galal played a huge role but wasn't mentioned in the kacaan books.

Linguist reports from the 1960's - http://dspace-roma3.caspur.it/bitstream ... vorato.pdf


http://dspace-roma3.caspur.it/bitstream ... 201961.pdf
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Re: Osmanya and kaddare

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GalliumerianSlayer wrote:
PanSomaliNationalist wrote:I feel osmanya and kaddare should be mixed into one so that there's no division and everyone would learn it. I have the whole day to myself since it's Christmas and it only takes a few hours to learn an script so I'm just gonna be productive and learn osmanya and kaddare! When I'm done I'm going to teach my family it and once I have children inshallah I'm going to teach them it too. I urge everyone to learn at least one of the scripts
Linguists recommended that both scripts to be mixed, Kaddare had Upper/lower case letters (cursive and capitals) while Osmanya had numerals/glottal stop. Until siyaad barre nominated his kin script which Galal played a huge role but wasn't mentioned in the kacaan books.

Linguist reports from the 1960's - http://dspace-roma3.caspur.it/bitstream ... vorato.pdf


http://dspace-roma3.caspur.it/bitstream ... 201961.pdf
I know right! Most of the population can't write or read so it's not too late and for the people that already know latin stop being a lazy ass it only takes an hour tops to learn one script!
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Osmanya numerals

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Kaddare cursive letters/capital letters

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Osmanya had separate characters for the double vowels too unlike Kaddare which you would have to write the same vowel twice (AA).

Just had extra tones part of the alphabet, maay alphabet letters (NY, NG, TH, JH, P AND GH) and the remaining Arabic letters غ ض ظ ز ث ذ ص and you will have a great alphabet system.

غ = same as Maay GH.

They are three tones in Somali by the way.
When needed, the conventions for marking tone on written Somali are as follows:

acute accent - high tone
grave accent - low tone
circumflex - falling tone

Somali is a TONAL language, tones must be presented too.

Thus the complete alphabet would be...



Vowels;
A, AA,
U, UU,
O, OO,
I, II,
E, EE
Consonants;

' (glottal stop, osmanya had a separate character), B, T, J, X, KH, D, R, S, SH, DH, C, G, F, Q, K, L, M, N, W, H, Y, A, E, I, O, U.

P (MAAY), GH (MAAY, similar as غ), TH (MAAY), NG (MAAY), Y' (MAAY) AND JH( MAAY)

Remaining arabic letters; ض ظ ص زذ ث
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Intresting, reer pl should adopt the osmaniya
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This is an awesome idea, although i think the osmanya alphabet are impressive, i also think it resembles the amharic alphabet to much which is a big turn off. But the kaddare alphabet is very beautiful wallahi :o :heart:
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Tijoux wrote:This is an awesome idea, although i think the osmanya alphabet are impressive, i also think it resembles the amharic alphabet to much which is a big turn off. But the kaddare alphabet is very beautiful wallahi :o :heart:
That's why I call for a mix. I was originally gonna say we should use this alphabet
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It's called sumado and it was used by isse. It's old asf hieroglyphics used by puntite somalis and i would suggest it but it looks too old and would be a lot of work to learn.
And If you say kaddare a lot of darod would be mad and vice versa so a mix would be best because we would all agree on it! I got a week off work and school so I'm just gonna learn both
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PanSomaliNationalist wrote:
Tijoux wrote:This is an awesome idea, although i think the osmanya alphabet are impressive, i also think it resembles the amharic alphabet to much which is a big turn off. But the kaddare alphabet is very beautiful wallahi :o :heart:
That's why I call for a mix. I was originally gonna say we should use this alphabet
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It's called sumado and it was used by isse. It's old asf hieroglyphics used by puntite somalis and i would suggest it but it looks too old and would be a lot of work to learn.
And If you say kaddare a lot of darod would be mad and vice versa so a mix would be best because we would all agree on it! I got a week off work and school so I'm just gonna learn both
That looks nice, but i agree , it looks old, almost like the ancient egyptian alphbets? Yeah thats a good idea bro :up: :som:
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Re: Osmanya and kaddare

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Tijoux wrote:
PanSomaliNationalist wrote:
Tijoux wrote:This is an awesome idea, although i think the osmanya alphabet are impressive, i also think it resembles the amharic alphabet to much which is a big turn off. But the kaddare alphabet is very beautiful wallahi :heart:
That's why I call for a mix. I was originally gonna say we should use this alphabet
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It's called sumado and it was used by isse. It's old asf hieroglyphics used by puntite somalis and i would suggest it but it looks too old and would be a lot of work to learn.
And If you say kaddare a lot of darod would be mad and vice versa so a mix would be best because we would all agree on it! I got a week off work and school so I'm just gonna learn both
That looks nice, but i agree , it looks old, almost like the ancient egyptian alphbets? Yeah thats a good idea bro :up: :som:
Yup It was actually heavily based off of the egyptian alphabet :up: :som:
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GalliumerianSlayer wrote:Osmanya numerals

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Kaddare cursive letters/capital letters

Image

Osmanya had separate characters for the double vowels too unlike Kaddare which you would have to write the same vowel twice (AA).

Just had extra tones part of the alphabet, maay alphabet letters (NY, NG, TH, JH, P AND GH) and the remaining Arabic letters غ ض ظ ز ث ذ ص and you will have a great alphabet system.

غ = same as Maay GH.

They are three tones in Somali by the way.
When needed, the conventions for marking tone on written Somali are as follows:

acute accent - high tone
grave accent - low tone
circumflex - falling tone

Somali is a TONAL language, tones must be presented too.

Thus the complete alphabet would be...



Vowels;
A, AA,
U, UU,
O, OO,
I, II,
E, EE
Consonants;

' (glottal stop, osmanya had a separate character), B, T, J, X, KH, D, R, S, SH, DH, C, G, F, Q, K, L, M, N, W, H, Y, A, E, I, O, U.

P (MAAY), GH (MAAY, similar as غ), TH (MAAY), NG (MAAY), Y' (MAAY) AND JH( MAAY)

Remaining arabic letters; ض ظ ص زذ ث
OO=Ö
AA=Ä
EE=Ë
Hooyo= höyo
Aabo=Äbo
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Re: Osmanya and kaddare

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Crazy hieroglyphics.
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X.Playa wrote:Crazy hieroglyphics.
Kaddare and osmanya are 1930 scripts
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X.Playa wrote:Crazy hieroglyphics.
Kaddare and osmanya are 1930 scripts
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