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She pretty much is whatever the Oromo's inhabit now has always been theirs, FUNNY

@AwRastaale thoughts....

No you misunderstood.

Oromo are correct.

What they dismissing as a fairytale is a theory by a Habesha priest called Bahrey.

He claimed Oromo are not native to the Horn of Africa but they arrived by boats from Madagascar.

Of course Oromo are native of the Horn.

If they are not than none of the Cushitic are.

The Cushitic lived on the land before the Habesha.

Oromo has lived where they live and more lands (mostly northern and eastern than they do today).

So yes it's myth. Oromo are Hornians. Whatever they settle today has been theirs always except small western expansion which saw them conquer Bantus, Omotic and Nilotics (by the Borana Macha).

In the very north the entire Cushitic once lived there so they left the land to their Agew cousins only to return later and re-conquer what was once Cushitic homestead (by the Barentu Yejju and Borana Rayyuu).

Can you imagine the Spaniard descendants in Peru telling the native Maya and Inca that they migrated from Cuba?

Oromo are correct.

AwRastaale wrote:No you misunderstood.

Oromo are correct.

What they dismissing as a fairytale is a theory by a Habesha priest called Bahrey.

He claimed Oromo are not native to the Horn of Africa but they arrived by boats from Madagascar.

Of course Oromo are native of the Horn.

If they are not than none of the Cushitic are.

The Cushitic lived on the land before the Habesha.

Oromo has lived where they live and more lands (mostly northern and eastern than they do today).

So yes it's myth. Oromo are Hornians. Whatever they settle today has been theirs always except small western expansion which saw them conquer Bantus, Omotic and Nilotics (by the Borana Macha).

In the very north the entire Cushitic once lived there so they left the land to their Agew cousins only to return later and re-conquer what was once Cushitic homestead (by the Barentu Yejju and Borana Rayyuu).

Can you imagine the Spaniard descendants in Peru telling the native Maya and Inca that they migrated from Cuba?

Oromo are correct.

How can they be correct if you just said they expanded too? And what about Harar and the East. The Harar wall shows you they were invaders taking our (somali) and also Harari land. The West is the most certain expansion, the Oromo homeland is in Bale/Borena. They definetely migrated to Raya and Wello too.

And by the way I didn't say Cushites immigrated to the north, I said Oromo's. I am aware there are Cushitic groups in the North, but the agreed origin of all cushite's is the Ogaden/oromo border around bale/ogaden.

The bahrey thing is bullS, but people have visited the land before and said there were no Oromo's in certain parts

oromo are somalis, mixed of all things, you know how you have tall handsome Ogadens, short blick skinned Majeertens, dark skinned hawiyes, somali bantus etc, Oromo have tall folks who look like somalis, with very similar features, hair, nose, they have short dark skinned folks, they also have oromos with bantu features that look like mike tyson. it is what you would expect from 40 million people who border cushtics like Ogadens and Dirs, hararis, semetic ahmara and also bantus to their south. i have seen hot oromo qalanjos who look ecatley like a hot idoor or Ogaden chick with light skin and long neck and amazing features,

the madagasgar bullshit was spewed by racist ahmaro in the haile selaise days, oromo was banned from universities, christian oromos shed most of their oromo origins and assimilated with ahmara (haile selaise is 75% oromo, his father is oromo and his mums dad is oromo but christians not muslim) chrsitian oromos are the achiles hill of oromos, they are the traitors who are closer to the christian ahmaras, if they were like somalis 100% muslim they would have had more unity because they are not as tribalisitc and crazy as somalis

until zenawi and tigres took office oromo language was banned by ahmaros.

Yes.....all very interesting, but this is a Somali forum.

ONE OROMO DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL OF US YOU RETARD! HOW HARD IS IT TO COMPREHEND THIS?
DO SOMALI TERRORISTS REPRESENT ALL SOMALIS? NO, RIGHT? OKAY THEN!

NOW...

Yes the oromo expanded and conquered, just like almost everybody else in africa and world-wide.
the vast majority of mankind has migrated, conquered, got conquered, gained new lands, lost lands, etc.
this is the cycle of life.
the theory that we are strangers to the horn of africa is what we dispute, because it's a lie.
non-biased, honest, historians will tell you the oromos were in the horn for thousands of years.
we've always been there. we've been there before ethiopia even existed as a state.

original dervish wrote:Yes.....all very interesting, but this is a Somali forum.

OP is Habesh too, surely he could have went to Mereja. Also how can an ethnic group who is the largest in horn of africa not have a dedicated website? 'oromo/galla net'?

Ofcourse its a myth thats long been debunked by practiclly every researcher..
Oromo migration was not an invasion, it was a reconquest .

Who knows sxb......but we have enough problems/issues to resolve without adding 50 million Oromo to the mix.
We love our Muslim Oromo brethren.....but you got to go.

Admin please accept my request

The Oromo migration is a myth. Oromo are not people from the same origin.

Waachis wrote:ONE OROMO DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL OF US YOU RETARD! HOW HARD IS IT TO COMPREHEND THIS?
DO SOMALI TERRORISTS REPRESENT ALL SOMALIS? NO, RIGHT? OKAY THEN!

NOW...

Yes the oromo expanded and conquered, just like almost everybody else in africa and world-wide.
the vast majority of mankind has migrated, conquered, got conquered, gained new lands, lost lands, etc.
this is the cycle of life.
the theory that we are strangers to the horn of africa is what we dispute, because it's a lie.
non-biased, honest, historians will tell you the oromos were in the horn for thousands of years.
we've always been there. we've been there before ethiopia even existed as a state.

My good cattle herding, green grass land dwelling Oromo friend, aka my dear tolaa and waheela-i of the sa'a loving uumata; may I share a word of advice given to me by by grand wise man of the the Lo'da World aka goroomsa lafa-ti...." Never let someone less intelligent than you upset you!"

The geel following aka camel herders reality of the world at present time is somewhat distorted and get facts about history and people on eve dropping on what grandma said while sawing the floor mat for the grandad, and/or similar other sources.

What I am trying to say is don't take it too seriously what some folks here say it's evident they just trolling looking for reaction and are not interested in discussions on exchanges of knowledge.

That's all and that's all my two Mooo Mooos

Waachis wrote:ONE OROMO DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL OF US YOU RETARD! HOW HARD IS IT TO COMPREHEND THIS?
DO SOMALI TERRORISTS REPRESENT ALL SOMALIS? NO, RIGHT? OKAY THEN!

NOW...

Yes the oromo expanded and conquered, just like almost everybody else in africa and world-wide.
the vast majority of mankind has migrated, conquered, got conquered, gained new lands, lost lands, etc.
this is the cycle of life.
the theory that we are strangers to the horn of africa is what we dispute, because it's a lie.
non-biased, honest, historians will tell you the oromos were in the horn for thousands of years.
we've always been there. we've been there before ethiopia even existed as a state.

I understand that, didnt say you are new to the horn, just didnt agree with the poster

GalliumerianSlayer wrote:

original dervish wrote:Yes.....all very interesting, but this is a Somali forum.

OP is Habesh too, surely he could have went to Mereja. Also how can an ethnic group who is the largest in horn of africa not have a dedicated website? 'oromo/galla net'?

Im about as habesha as kim jong un, lmao

HOA,

It's clear you don't even understand what you are posting. The poster never mentioned anything about the lands Oromo inhabit today except that the theory by Abba Bahrey is mythical legend like that one of Harry Porters.

Do you not agree?

In addiition to that he only says Oromo are part of the Cushitic family and have walked the land long before the Habesha.

Do you not agree?

So what is your argument really in respect to what Mr Saleh has posted on Twitter?

Also looks like you don't understand the Oromo and that region well.

Raaya is not a region but an Oromo sub-tribe who live in Wollo along with their Yejju brothers. So there is nothing called "Wello and Raya".

Raaya are in Wollo.

And no it's not conquered land in respect to what Saleh is saying which is about the subject of who arrived first. Oromo and the Cushitics have always lived as far north as Tigray (Axum). Axum was an empire by the Agews and even later established the Zagwe dynasty, which by the way practiced many aspects of the Gadaa system. Agews were no strangers to Oromo neither were Habesha's earliest fathers including this Priest. Just looking at his name says it all "Abba Bahrey". Abbaa is Oromo word for father and they use it as a title eg Abba Nefso, Abba Jaffar, etc. In Oromo culture there is the Abbaa and the ilma (son). These are Gadaa principles of titles, social hierarchy, and so forth. For him to be Abba Bahrey tells us he had direct contacts with Oromo and may have even grew up amongst them to earn such title.

In Gadaa system you have several groups led by certain titles and each title is given to particular family. That family has a hierarchy which also maintains their lineage. In such the father(s) is/are always at the top while the first eldest son awaits his turn. This is where "Abbaa" and "ilma" come handy for example Abbaa Ja'an Galaan (the father of the six branches of Galaan), Abbaa Shanan Jiddaa (Father of the five branches of Jidaa), etc. Then you have Abbaa Gadaa, Abbaa Bokku, and each clan has their own father...each division of Gadaa has its own father or particular family.

So to conquer a land means another race must be uprooted. Who did the Oromo uproot? The Habesha want to play victim yet till us that they arrived from Israel with a Cross and Geez language yet want to play natives. That doesn't make sense.

If anything Oromo conquered the Agews and that's like one brother taking the bigger bedroom from the other------these things always went back and forth. There were times the Agews had the upper hands and chased Oromo sending them south and later Oromo re-conquered the lands their ancestors once walked.

In the later Oromo expansion, that's no different than Somali, Afar, Beja or Agew one.

Everyone expanded at one point in history but what the topic from Twitter discusses is the first arriver to the Horn and Oromo has lived the land before Habesha.

So no it's not a conquest if anything a restoration of their ancestral lands (Cushitic land).

You contradict yourself by laughing at purported 'Oromo migration'. Migration from where? Madagascar?

The within Horn migration is one all sons of Cushitic have under taken.