HSM; the man who tried to restore our dignity
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HSM; the man who tried to restore our dignity
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Four years ago, I wrote this;
https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 8&t=313496
And I was almost laughed at.
Well, well, here we are again. Euphoria, all smiles, hopes and celebrations.
It is the same bad comedy once again. A new wine in an old bottle. The same actors, the same celebrations. Every four years, we do this.
Hope and change maybe but the underlying fact is our addiction to things with no substance.
The new president “selected” by warlords, tribal thugs, zealots and welfare cheats from the west has a lot to accomplish. His selection has brought hope. His selection has been celebrated all over Somali lands.
We are humans. We forget easily.
It was the same thing four years ago; a newcomer. We celebrated, we rejoiced and hoped that he will bring changes. (see the reaction to my piece)
HSM selection that is..
He traveled the world. it all hope, carab dhow, parties to welcome a new dawn.
However, as with everything Somali, we condemned him after a few months- and his political capital faded away.
Will it be different this time? Possibly not; probably not. He will be like the others before him. Once the honeymoon ends, he will get a new nickname, and people will be calling for his head.
Let us hope that I am proved wrong.
I am not here to praise HSM but to mention some of his achievements.
HSM was working with peace building, an NGO man. An academic who came out of the blues and won against “Shariif Dhoof” who a few years earlier was the darling of the “masses”.
He brought hope, was always smiling and some people say (Trump) brought the somali name out of the qashin qub.
Did he make mistakes? Yes he did. He bowed to the madax koraankor (and not for Somalis), he was corrupt (who is not?) etc
But his mistakes should be put in the context of our nation. We are a nation that has lost its moral compass, we are a people of Af waa ko may liki aamee?
More importantly, we are poor. Very poor. Moral poverty and material poverty.
HSM- during his tenure has succeeded in peace building and much more.
His major failure was the creation of LALALANDS, the fiefdoms, the Balluchistans, etc.
Somalis have profound hate for Kenya and Ethiopia. He travelled to these countries and engaged in a kiss of death. Will
Farmaajo avoid this bromance? If he does, he will succeed. If he does not it is game over.
But HSM has achieved a lot. A lot that is not visible to the masses
Let us wish the new president luck. He needs our well wishes and luck. Can Farmaajo reverse our fortunes and dismantle the institutionalised 4,5 system? Will he bring justice for the poor guy on the street? Will he ask madax cambuulo and the injirleeys to pack their bags? Will he dismantle the Lalalands? Will he fight endemic corruption?
Or will he be just another “big man” of Africa?
Time will tell.
In the meantime, let us appreciate HSM’s achievements (many of them tacit) and his humble exit.
We shall remember you for your smiles, for your hopeful message and for bringing a sense of dignity to our people (diplomatic).
And see you in four years when we shall watch a rerun of this scary movie.
Four years ago, I wrote this;
https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 8&t=313496
And I was almost laughed at.
Well, well, here we are again. Euphoria, all smiles, hopes and celebrations.
It is the same bad comedy once again. A new wine in an old bottle. The same actors, the same celebrations. Every four years, we do this.
Hope and change maybe but the underlying fact is our addiction to things with no substance.
The new president “selected” by warlords, tribal thugs, zealots and welfare cheats from the west has a lot to accomplish. His selection has brought hope. His selection has been celebrated all over Somali lands.
We are humans. We forget easily.
It was the same thing four years ago; a newcomer. We celebrated, we rejoiced and hoped that he will bring changes. (see the reaction to my piece)
HSM selection that is..
He traveled the world. it all hope, carab dhow, parties to welcome a new dawn.
However, as with everything Somali, we condemned him after a few months- and his political capital faded away.
Will it be different this time? Possibly not; probably not. He will be like the others before him. Once the honeymoon ends, he will get a new nickname, and people will be calling for his head.
Let us hope that I am proved wrong.
I am not here to praise HSM but to mention some of his achievements.
HSM was working with peace building, an NGO man. An academic who came out of the blues and won against “Shariif Dhoof” who a few years earlier was the darling of the “masses”.
He brought hope, was always smiling and some people say (Trump) brought the somali name out of the qashin qub.
Did he make mistakes? Yes he did. He bowed to the madax koraankor (and not for Somalis), he was corrupt (who is not?) etc
But his mistakes should be put in the context of our nation. We are a nation that has lost its moral compass, we are a people of Af waa ko may liki aamee?
More importantly, we are poor. Very poor. Moral poverty and material poverty.
HSM- during his tenure has succeeded in peace building and much more.
His major failure was the creation of LALALANDS, the fiefdoms, the Balluchistans, etc.
Somalis have profound hate for Kenya and Ethiopia. He travelled to these countries and engaged in a kiss of death. Will
Farmaajo avoid this bromance? If he does, he will succeed. If he does not it is game over.
But HSM has achieved a lot. A lot that is not visible to the masses
Let us wish the new president luck. He needs our well wishes and luck. Can Farmaajo reverse our fortunes and dismantle the institutionalised 4,5 system? Will he bring justice for the poor guy on the street? Will he ask madax cambuulo and the injirleeys to pack their bags? Will he dismantle the Lalalands? Will he fight endemic corruption?
Or will he be just another “big man” of Africa?
Time will tell.
In the meantime, let us appreciate HSM’s achievements (many of them tacit) and his humble exit.
We shall remember you for your smiles, for your hopeful message and for bringing a sense of dignity to our people (diplomatic).
And see you in four years when we shall watch a rerun of this scary movie.
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Re: HSM; the man of hope
Well said..
Re: HSM; the man who tried to restore our dignity
Its looks like you gave benefit of the doubt to HSM but not Farmaajo. What really did HSM achive that is not visible to the masses? The SNA is still nonexisting and corruption rampant while HSM security was provided by AMISOM.
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Re: HSM; the man who tried to restore our dignity
Raidboss wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:19 am Its looks like you gave benefit of the doubt to HSM but not Farmaajo. What really did HSM achive that is not visible to the masses? The SNA is still nonexisting and corruption rampant while HSM security was provided by AMISOM.
I wish Farmaajo all the luck. I hope he succeeds.
But this is an issue of ex ante vs ex post.
We know what HSM accomplished/not accomplished... Farmaajo is a novice in this context.
My major thesis is this; It is the same old story; we celebrate, hope for a radical change, partake in appreciations, parties and euphoria-- only to start condemning .. and voila the saviour becomes the thug.
P.s. corruption is our middle name
Re: HSM; the man who tried to restore our dignity
A little optimism doesn't hurt damn. Waa maxay moral dilaaca and hopelessness.
But you're right. There is a lot of good things Hassan Sheikh did and he deserves all forms of respect simply for peacefully handing the throne.
But you're right. There is a lot of good things Hassan Sheikh did and he deserves all forms of respect simply for peacefully handing the throne.
Re: HSM; the man who tried to restore our dignity
whole heartedly agree,i am still HSM supporter and remain so,i have reservations about this guy,the fact that he is being supported by mooryan media is a give away.
Re: HSM; the man who tried to restore our dignity
Have you lost it ? Did you forget 2011 ? Farmajoo has already has a PM shown us what he is cable of. He paid the troops the only man to do since december 1990. He was corroption free as a pm and most important tried to make Somalis have the control of Somalia. He has a good cv and shown his worth when he had less power as a pm. He was fired by Amisom in 2011 for being too Nationalistic.
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Re: HSM; the man who tried to restore our dignity
Yes, according to some people (love this Trump line), he accomplished alot. I pray that he accomplishes more.smartyt wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:23 am Have you lost it ? Did you forget 2011 ? Farmajoo has already has a PM shown us what he is cable of. He paid the troops the only man to do since december 1990. He was corroption free as a pm and most important tried to make Somalis have the control of Somalia. He has a good cv and shown his worth when he had less power as a pm. He was fired by Amisom in 2011 for being too Nationalistic.
But it is HAL BOOLI AH NIRIG XALAAL MA DHASHO. It is the same structure, corrupt institutions, etc and it is the same people he serves (somalis and politics).
Having a CV in the somali context is nothing. Paying soldiers a few months ssalary too; we need a revolution of the mind.
True, his selection has been lauded around the world, he is viewed as being different. But let us wait a year or two ; and we shall be cursing him. That is the somali approach; we celebrate and then denounce.
Re: HSM; the man who tried to restore our dignity
He was fired by AMISOM as a PM and now they let him come back as a President?smartyt wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:23 am Have you lost it ? Did you forget 2011 ? Farmajoo has already has a PM shown us what he is cable of. He paid the troops the only man to do since december 1990. He was corroption free as a pm and most important tried to make Somalis have the control of Somalia. He has a good cv and shown his worth when he had less power as a pm. He was fired by Amisom in 2011 for being too Nationalistic.
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Re: HSM; the man who tried to restore our dignity
This election they didn't get a choiceEstranged wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:01 amHe was fired by AMISOM as a PM and now they let him come back as a President?smartyt wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:23 am Have you lost it ? Did you forget 2011 ? Farmajoo has already has a PM shown us what he is cable of. He paid the troops the only man to do since december 1990. He was corroption free as a pm and most important tried to make Somalis have the control of Somalia. He has a good cv and shown his worth when he had less power as a pm. He was fired by Amisom in 2011 for being too Nationalistic.

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The mps elected him the enemies of Somalia will like him to be dead if they could.Estranged wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:01 amHe was fired by AMISOM as a PM and now they let him come back as a President?smartyt wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:23 am Have you lost it ? Did you forget 2011 ? Farmajoo has already has a PM shown us what he is cable of. He paid the troops the only man to do since december 1990. He was corroption free as a pm and most important tried to make Somalis have the control of Somalia. He has a good cv and shown his worth when he had less power as a pm. He was fired by Amisom in 2011 for being too Nationalistic.
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Re: HSM; the man who tried to restore our dignity
We avoided a bloody revolution, the people had enough and one must realise it one way or another before shit hits the fan.
You have somali people civilian and military celebrating all over the world, this is very unique to farmaajo, he managed to bring Somalis together and if he manages to maintain the unity of his supporters that is the source of his real power, not shady deals with blood sucking businessmen and corrupt politicians as was the way of HSM.
You have somali people civilian and military celebrating all over the world, this is very unique to farmaajo, he managed to bring Somalis together and if he manages to maintain the unity of his supporters that is the source of his real power, not shady deals with blood sucking businessmen and corrupt politicians as was the way of HSM.
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Thats the only thing I fear that the system brings him down. But on his worst day Farmajo is better than Xasan Shaikh Abdullahi YusufLamagoodle wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:58 amYes, according to some people (love this Trump line), he accomplished alot. I pray that he accomplishes more.smartyt wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:23 am Have you lost it ? Did you forget 2011 ? Farmajoo has already has a PM shown us what he is cable of. He paid the troops the only man to do since december 1990. He was corroption free as a pm and most important tried to make Somalis have the control of Somalia. He has a good cv and shown his worth when he had less power as a pm. He was fired by Amisom in 2011 for being too Nationalistic.
But it is HAL BOOLI AH NIRIG XALAAL MA DHASHO. It is the same structure, corrupt institutions, etc and it is the same people he serves (somalis and politics).
Having a CV in the somali context is nothing. Paying soldiers a few months ssalary too; we need a revolution of the mind.
True, his selection has been lauded around the world, he is viewed as being different. But let us wait a year or two ; and we shall be cursing him. That is the somali approach; we celebrate and then denounce.
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Re: HSM; the man who tried to restore our dignity
AMISOM cannot prevent anyone from running for President, if you wanted to you could run for president, Farmaajo played politics, during his premier he show cased his efforts, when he was fired he build a political party and campaigned long and hard, this is the result of massive effort, it is therefor everyone is saying this was a Xalaal election !Estranged wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:01 amHe was fired by AMISOM as a PM and now they let him come back as a President?smartyt wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:23 am Have you lost it ? Did you forget 2011 ? Farmajoo has already has a PM shown us what he is cable of. He paid the troops the only man to do since december 1990. He was corroption free as a pm and most important tried to make Somalis have the control of Somalia. He has a good cv and shown his worth when he had less power as a pm. He was fired by Amisom in 2011 for being too Nationalistic.

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You say according to some people when you are adressing Farmaajos accomplishment but when its comes down to HSM you say he acchived alot and many things there were not visible to the public and I asked you what he did that was not caught by the public eye and you gave no answer.Lamagoodle wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:58 am Yes, according to some people (love this Trump line), he accomplished alot. I pray that he accomplishes more.
But it is HAL BOOLI AH NIRIG XALAAL MA DHASHO. It is the same structure, corrupt institutions, etc and it is the same people he serves (somalis and politics).
Having a CV in the somali context is nothing. Paying soldiers a few months ssalary too; we need a revolution of the mind.
True, his selection has been lauded around the world, he is viewed as being different. But let us wait a year or two ; and we shall be cursing him. That is the somali approach; we celebrate and then denounce.

There is a reason why Farmaajo is held as a hope, whether you acknowledge it or not. The former president that you dont claim to praise failed to even pay the soldiers. Corruption might be your middle name but its not mine and to be fair, its not wrong to denounce HSM as thug, he didnt exactly prove otherwise. I hope Farmaajo can live up to the public expection.
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