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Somaliland Recognition

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:43 am
by DalJecel60
I believe The SFG should let go of Somaliland in exchange of relinquishing any claim of SSC and that upon leaving we should all Come together to form a Union.
Somalia,Somaliland,Djibouti,DDSI and NFD . This union would be like the Arab League etc. so nothing binding

Re: Somaliland Recognition

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 12:54 pm
by barbarossa
Let's face it, Somaliland will never agree in relinquishing the resource-rich regions of Cayn, Sool, and Sanaag.

Re: Somaliland Recognition

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 1:07 pm
by Sharmarke91
I actually believe it would be a good compromise if Somalia agreed to give the Isaaq and Samaroon the independence they desire while the SSC regions remain part of Somalia.

This is 2017, no people should be forced or coerced to be part of state they don't want to be part of!

Re: Somaliland Recognition

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 1:19 pm
by DalJecel60
Sharmarke91 wrote: Tue May 02, 2017 1:07 pm I actually believe it would be a good compromise if Somalia agreed to give the Isaaq and Samaroon the independence they desire while the SSC regions remain part of Somalia.

This is 2017, no people should be forced or coerced to be part of state they don't want to be part of!
:clap: and also those individuals in the Somali government from Those regions should be allowed double citizenship

Re: Somaliland Recognition

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 1:21 pm
by thelucky1
The government of Somaliland regards itself as the successor to the former British Somaliland protectorate, .

Re: Somaliland Recognition

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 1:25 pm
by thelucky1
Tbh I don't care about khatumo strip. It can stay disputed lawless region and be left from the devlopment

Re: Somaliland Recognition

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 1:31 pm
by mahoka
Sool and sanaag?

Surely you mean the darod parts of those regions otherwise what is next you will claim hargeisa too

Re: Somaliland Recognition

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 1:32 pm
by Strategic
if somalia is divisible,then so is somaliland.

Re: Somaliland Recognition

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 1:39 pm
by DalJecel60
mahoka wrote: Tue May 02, 2017 1:31 pm Sool and sanaag?

Surely you mean the darod parts of those regions otherwise what is next you will claim hargeisa too
What's SSC with out The darod parts? Keep them parts that aren't darod.

Re: Somaliland Recognition

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 1:43 pm
by Ben Dover
Somalia is divisible because it was formed out of the union of Somaliland and Somalia. A little education goes a long way.

Somaliland is one block, one peoples, one destiny. There is no way we are letting go of our comrades in Las Anod.

Whether they like it or not, they are stuck with us.

And there is nothing Zoomalia can do about it :)

Re: Somaliland Recognition

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:03 pm
by Sharmarke91
Ben Dover wrote: Tue May 02, 2017 1:43 pm Somalia is divisible because it was formed out of the union of Somaliland and Somalia. A little education goes a long way.

Somaliland is one block, one peoples, one destiny. There is no way we are letting go of our comrades in Las Anod.

Whether they like it or not, they are stuck with us.

And there is nothing Zoomalia can do about it :)
Regardless of the union, Somaliland will never get recognition without Somalia's support. Therefore, its better to compromise and reach a reasonable understanding were all clans get what they seek.

Re: Somaliland Recognition

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:16 pm
by Ben Dover
Sharmarke91 wrote: Tue May 02, 2017 2:03 pm Regardless of the union, Somaliland will never get recognition without Somalia's support. Therefore, its better to compromise and reach a reasonable understanding were all clans get what they seek.
The legal case of Somaliland is very strong, eventually we will cross one of two bridges:

- Somalia fails to get its shit together, ceases to exist as a viable state and gets overrun by Al Shabab/Ethiopia/Kenya..etc. In this case Somaliland will be fast-tracked into UN de jure recognition.

- Somalia gets its shit together, will have no choice but to sit on the table eventually and will be forced to accept a referendum inside the territories of Somaliland to settle the matter.

The referendum will return an overwhelming yes majority.

There many unknown unknowns, but never doubt two facts:

1- Somaliland will never return to unite with Somalia.

2- Somaliland will never be divided.

Re: Somaliland Recognition

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:26 pm
by DalJecel60
Ben Dover wrote: Tue May 02, 2017 2:16 pm
Sharmarke91 wrote: Tue May 02, 2017 2:03 pm Regardless of the union, Somaliland will never get recognition without Somalia's support. Therefore, its better to compromise and reach a reasonable understanding were all clans get what they seek.
The legal case of Somaliland is very strong, eventually we will cross one of two bridges:

- Somalia fails to get its shit together, ceases to exist as a viable state and gets overrun by Al Shabab/Ethiopia/Kenya..etc. In this case Somaliland will be fast-tracked into UN de jure recognition.

- Somalia gets its shit together, will have no choice but to sit on the table eventually and will be forced to accept a referendum inside the territories of Somaliland to settle the matter.

The referendum will return an overwhelming yes majority.

There many unknown unknowns, but never doubt two facts:

1- Somaliland will never return to unite with Somalia.

2- Somaliland will never be divided.
Or you get outvoted by real wadanis which are really the majority and you all start crying. Somalidiid Silic uu dhimo

Re: Somaliland Recognition

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:31 pm
by whitehartlane
Ben Dover wrote: Tue May 02, 2017 2:16 pm
Sharmarke91 wrote: Tue May 02, 2017 2:03 pm Regardless of the union, Somaliland will never get recognition without Somalia's support. Therefore, its better to compromise and reach a reasonable understanding were all clans get what they seek.
The legal case of Somaliland is very strong, eventually we will cross one of two bridges:

- Somalia fails to get its shit together, ceases to exist as a viable state and gets overrun by Al Shabab/Ethiopia/Kenya..etc. In this case Somaliland will be fast-tracked into UN de jure recognition.

- Somalia gets its shit together, will have no choice but to sit on the table eventually and will be forced to accept a referendum inside the territories of Somaliland to settle the matter.

The referendum will return an overwhelming yes majority.

There many unknown unknowns, but never doubt two facts:

1- Somaliland will never return to unite with Somalia.

2- Somaliland will never be divided.


And you think sool sanaag and cayn are some gifts that you can inherit, ... Even if the residents of these land were not darood you wouldn't get those lands, .. besides of their rich resources, darood ancestors are buried in those lands.... wishful thinking sxb..

Re: Somaliland Recognition

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:37 pm
by Ben Dover
DalJecel60 wrote: Tue May 02, 2017 2:26 pm Or you get outvoted by real wadanis which are really the majority and you all start crying. Somalidiid Silic uu dhimo
No chance.

But if that happens I have no problem with it.
And you think sool sanaag and cayn are some gifts that you can inherit, ... Even if the residents of these land were not darood you wouldn't get those lands, .. besides of their rich resources, darood ancestors are buried in those lands.... wishful thinking sxb..
Sool Sanaag and Togdheer are part and parcel of Somaliland. This will go through a referendum at some point and I am willing to bet supporters of Somaliland in Sool Sanaag and Togdheer will most certainly outnumber those opposed to it, let alone votes from Woqooyi Galbeed and Awdal.