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Somali and arabic language

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 11:49 am
by hoa
Not close

even habesh language is closer

Re: Somali and arabic language

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 12:06 pm
by DalJecel60
Quite far apart
Ones Cushitic ones Semitic

Re: Somali and arabic language

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 12:46 pm
by gegiroor
Somali and Arabic are very close languages. The classification of Somali as a Cushitic is wrong. Indeed Somali lan guage is one of the surviving ancient Semitic languages.

Of course, the new Somali gaalo qurunley aka atheist, Buddhist, and pagan scums will do everything in their power to drive a wedge between the Somali people and their Islamic faith. All of their Arabs and Arabic language obsession should be understood in that context.

Re: Somali and arabic language

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 1:43 pm
by Gaashaanle1000
gegiroor wrote: Tue May 16, 2017 12:46 pm Somali and Arabic are very close languages. The classification of Somali as a Cushitic is wrong. Indeed Somali lan guage is one of the surviving ancient Semitic languages.

Of course, the new Somali gaalo qurunley aka atheist, Buddhist, and pagan scums will do everything in their power to drive a wedge between the Somali people and their Islamic faith. All of their Arabs and Arabic language obsession should be understood in that context.
You are 100% correct.

They only think that the two languages are far apart because they don't speak Arabic.

The deep rooted similarities between the two languages is actually mind blowing.

The reason why these cadaan gaalo idiots who classify languages separated the classification has more to do with politics and the division of Muslim, and Semitic people.

I know it might be mind blowing for some kids, but we are actually an ancient Semitic people, akin to other south Semites like the Mahra, Soqotris, Harasis etc

Re: Somali and arabic language

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 1:44 pm
by gegiroor
Gaashaanle1000 wrote: Tue May 16, 2017 1:43 pm
gegiroor wrote: Tue May 16, 2017 12:46 pm Somali and Arabic are very close languages. The classification of Somali as a Cushitic is wrong. Indeed Somali lan guage is one of the surviving ancient Semitic languages.

Of course, the new Somali gaalo qurunley aka atheist, Buddhist, and pagan scums will do everything in their power to drive a wedge between the Somali people and their Islamic faith. All of their Arabs and Arabic language obsession should be understood in that context.
You are 100% correct.

They only think that the two languages are far apart because they don't speak Arabic.

The deep rooted similarities between the two languages is actually mind blowing.

The reason why these cadaan gaalo idiots who classify languages separated the classification has more to do with politics and the division of Muslim, and Semitic people.

I know it might be mind blowing for some kids, but we are actually an ancient Semitic people, akin to other south Semites like the Mahra, Soqotris, Harusis etc

Well said, bro Gaashaanle :up: :up:

Re: Somali and arabic language

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 2:04 pm
by hoa
gegiroor wrote: Tue May 16, 2017 12:46 pm Somali and Arabic are very close languages. The classification of Somali as a Cushitic is wrong. Indeed Somali lan guage is one of the surviving ancient Semitic languages.

Of course, the new Somali gaalo qurunley aka atheist, Buddhist, and pagan scums will do everything in their power to drive a wedge between the Somali people and their Islamic faith. All of their Arabs and Arabic language obsession should be understood in that context.
Wrong, Somali shares no similarities with Semitic languages, our language shares similarities with the other Cushitic languages. Just because it has a bunch of Arabic loanwords, it does not magically turn it into a Semitic language.

if they were targeting us and Islamic faith, they would have put Urdu, Farsi, Indonesian, Berber all in the same group as Arabic, but, they didn't

Re: Somali and arabic language

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 2:05 pm
by hoa
Gaashaanle1000 wrote: Tue May 16, 2017 1:43 pm
You are 100% correct.

They only think that the two languages are far apart because they don't speak Arabic.

The deep rooted similarities between the two languages is actually mind blowing.

The reason why these cadaan gaalo idiots who classify languages separated the classification has more to do with politics and the division of Muslim, and Semitic people.

I know it might be mind blowing for some kids, but we are actually an ancient Semitic people, akin to other south Semites like the Mahra, Soqotris, Harasis etc
Numbers are normally similar in all language groups. Let's compare our numbers to Arabic and other Semitic languages and Cushitic languages...

List the similarities then... you're just going to show me a bunch of Arabic loanwords.....

Re: Somali and arabic language

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 2:51 pm
by Gaashaanle1000
hoa wrote: Tue May 16, 2017 2:05 pm
Gaashaanle1000 wrote: Tue May 16, 2017 1:43 pm
You are 100% correct.

They only think that the two languages are far apart because they don't speak Arabic.

The deep rooted similarities between the two languages is actually mind blowing.

The reason why these cadaan gaalo idiots who classify languages separated the classification has more to do with politics and the division of Muslim, and Semitic people.

I know it might be mind blowing for some kids, but we are actually an ancient Semitic people, akin to other south Semites like the Mahra, Soqotris, Harasis etc
Numbers are normally similar in all language groups. Let's compare our numbers to Arabic and other Semitic languages and Cushitic languages...

List the similarities then... you're just going to show me a bunch of Arabic loanwords.....
The similarities are way beyond loan words, they are deep rooted. Even the feminine, masculine use for nouns, the sentence structure when considering plural and singular depending on the position a noun or verb is placed.

The similarities are immense, and requires a book. The languages have the same root, so simplifying it to loan words just shows the ignorance people display.

For example
انا ما ر أيتها
aniga maanan arkin ayada

With the word like ارى meaning I see, and arkaa meaning I see in Somali. مافي انت/ ma fiicantahay?

Soco/سرع

Leeyahay/لدي I have

I would have to go in greater detail, maybe one day I will write a book ان شاء اللّٰه, but in the meantime I can assure you that the two languages are much more similar, all it requires is studying.

Re: Somali and arabic language

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 4:43 pm
by hoa
Gaashaanle1000 wrote: Tue May 16, 2017 2:51 pm
hoa wrote: Tue May 16, 2017 2:05 pm
Gaashaanle1000 wrote: Tue May 16, 2017 1:43 pm
You are 100% correct.

They only think that the two languages are far apart because they don't speak Arabic.

The deep rooted similarities between the two languages is actually mind blowing.

The reason why these cadaan gaalo idiots who classify languages separated the classification has more to do with politics and the division of Muslim, and Semitic people.

I know it might be mind blowing for some kids, but we are actually an ancient Semitic people, akin to other south Semites like the Mahra, Soqotris, Harasis etc
Numbers are normally similar in all language groups. Let's compare our numbers to Arabic and other Semitic languages and Cushitic languages...

List the similarities then... you're just going to show me a bunch of Arabic loanwords.....
The similarities are way beyond loan words, they are deep rooted. Even the feminine, masculine use for nouns, the sentence structure when considering plural and singular depending on the position a noun or verb is placed.

The similarities are immense, and requires a book. The languages have the same root, so simplifying it to loan words just shows the ignorance people display.

For example
انا ما ر أيتها
aniga maanan arkin ayada

With the word like ارى meaning I see, and arkaa meaning I see in Somali. مافي انت/ ma fiicantahay?

Soco/سرع

Leeyahay/لدي I have

I would have to go in greater detail, maybe one day I will write a book ان شاء اللّٰه, but in the meantime I can assure you that the two languages are much more similar, all it requires is studying.
And you are saying the rest of Semitic languages are not close to Arabic at all?!

"انا ما ر أيتها
aniga maanan arkin ayada"

Sorry but this isn't how similarities work. The things you listed simply are not similarities,they just sound the same. You are ignoring the deeper similarities other languages have with Arabic and concentrating on your story.
Somali is closer to Cushitic languages.

Compare the numbers, they are literally similar in every sub language group.

The root r-ʾ-y ر ء ي means 'see/show' in Arabic. Not our root, other Semitic languages have this root, not us.

Re: Somali and arabic language

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 4:49 pm
by xiimaaya
Somalis always kissing Arab bum. Our language and culture is cush.

Re: Somali and arabic language

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 5:42 pm
by Gaashaanle1000
hoa wrote: Tue May 16, 2017 4:43 pm

And you are saying the rest of Semitic languages are not close to Arabic at all?!

"انا ما ر أيتها
aniga maanan arkin ayada"

Sorry but this isn't how similarities work. The things you listed simply are not similarities,they just sound the same. You are ignoring the deeper similarities other languages have with Arabic and concentrating on your story.
Somali is closer to Cushitic languages.

Compare the numbers, they are literally similar in every sub language group.

The root r-ʾ-y ر ء ي means 'see/show' in Arabic. Not our root, other Semitic languages have this root, not us.
You are making a lot of assumptions that I never stated. Just because I said Somali is a Semitic language, it does not mean that it is closer in relation than other Semitic languages to Arabic.

I personally believe that Somali is a very old Semitic language.

Also having the same or similar words for numbers means nothing in terms of relation. They may just be loan words, which is not surprising considering our location. That is even after the fact that I have not studied the numbers and counting system of south Semitic languages like Mahra and Harasis.

Oromo does not even have certain sounds like ع or ح. But I do not speak the language, hence I cannot explain how similar it is to Somali or Arabic.

What I listed sound the same and have the same approximate meaning. In what world is this not evidence of a relation?

The funny thing is that the entire Somali language is like this. Which is why I said it is mind blowing how similar it is to Arabic.

Re: Somali and arabic language

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 6:04 pm
by hoa
Gaashaanle1000 wrote: Tue May 16, 2017 5:42 pm
You are making a lot of assumptions that I never stated. Just because I said Somali is a Semitic language, it does not mean that it is closer in relation than other Semitic languages.

I personally believe that Somali is a very old Semitic language.

Also having the same or similar words for numbers means nothing in terms of relation. They may just be loan words.

Oromo does not even have certain sounds like ع or ح. But I do not speak the language, hence I cannot explain how similar it is to Somali or Arabic.

What I listed sound the same and have the same approximate meaning. In what world is this not evidence of a relation?

The funny thing is that the entire Somali language is like this. Which is why I said it is mind blowing how similar it is to Arabic.
Somali is related to Arabic through one ancestor. Cushitic languages and Somali have a common ancestor, in which this ancestor has an ancestor that the ancestor of Semitic languages have.
That is how they are related.

Having similar numbers does mean something, none of the numbers Semitic languages have, Hebrew, Arabic, Amharic, etc. are borrowed off each other, all of these languages share these numbers from a proto-Semitic ancestor. Somali clearly shares it with a proto-Cushitic ancestor.

Now to your next point:
So what if Oromo doesn't have sounds like ع and ح??? Why does everyone always bring up this point. Phonology plays little when languages are classed into groups.

Do Spanish and Italian have the guttural French R? Why are they classed together.
Doesn't matter if a letter is pronounced differently, if the root is the same, it is similar. Heck even Hebrew doesn't have ع ق ح , why don't you contest this?

The Arabic root as I said, for 'to see' is r-'-y ر ء ي . I just done a quick lookup and the root for 'to see' in Tigrinya is r-'-y as well. This is what is similar. They literally have the same exact root, not a coincidence unlike our word for it.

'SEE' in Oromo is arkuu, what have you got to say about this........

Re: Somali and arabic language

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 9:52 pm
by Basra-
I am currently learning Arabic online. From Hadith to the alphabets to later Quran. I can tell u--with me knowing absolutely NOTHNG about Arabic-- I can understand at least 25% of the wordings due to my Aaaf Somali--which tells me a lot. Sometimes even 35%! :)

Re: Somali and arabic language

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 11:06 pm
by TheLoFather
hoa wrote: Tue May 16, 2017 2:05 pm
Gaashaanle1000 wrote: Tue May 16, 2017 1:43 pm
You are 100% correct.

They only think that the two languages are far apart because they don't speak Arabic.

The deep rooted similarities between the two languages is actually mind blowing.

The reason why these cadaan gaalo idiots who classify languages separated the classification has more to do with politics and the division of Muslim, and Semitic people.

I know it might be mind blowing for some kids, but we are actually an ancient Semitic people, akin to other south Semites like the Mahra, Soqotris, Harasis etc
Numbers are normally similar in all language groups. Let's compare our numbers to Arabic and other Semitic languages and Cushitic languages...

List the similarities then... you're just going to show me a bunch of Arabic loanwords.....

Sxb languages do not have to have or share exactly same numerics or even similar sounding numbers or words in order to belong in the same family.

Though Somali is classed as a Cushitic language by Orientalist linguistic scholars (who are for certain motivated and agenda driven), It is very plausible that Somali language to be related to Arabic, Hibrew and some of the other Sematic languages much more so than the Cushitic languages. I will even go further and say that Arabic is a decedent of the Somali language.

Re: Somali and arabic language

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 11:14 pm
by TheLoFather
Basra- wrote: Tue May 16, 2017 9:52 pm I am currently learning Arabic online. From Hadith to the alphabets to later Quran. I can tell u--with me knowing absolutely NOTHNG about Arabic-- I can understand at least 25% of the wordings due to my Aaaf Somali--which tells me a lot. Sometimes even 35%! :)

Indeed it does dearest Basra

Huuno try to read an online article in the Oromo language and see how much you understand then tell us which one of two i. e. Arabic and Oromo seem similar and related to Af Soomaal!