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is orthodox islam possible without sufism ?

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:27 pm
by GalliumerianSlayer


What do you think of the Shaykhs lecture?

We mean the essence of 'Tasawwuf'. Which most muslims clearly lack today.


Gurey, Basra, Abdiwahab and Lejustic what do you think of the opinion held by the Shaykh?

Re: is orthodox islam possible without sufism ?

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:46 pm
by thehappyone
sxb if you want the opinion of those people why didn't you PM them?

Re: is orthodox islam possible without sufism ?

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:52 am
by GalliumerianSlayer
thehappyone wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:46 pm sxb if you want the opinion of those people why didn't you PM them?
What is your opinion of the Shaykh ? What do you think of Tasawwuf ? (which we should all be striving for) and not what people see as Sufis.

Re: is orthodox islam possible without sufism ?

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:05 am
by gurey25
Yes its possible but we would be much poorer intellectually without ihsan/tasawuf
we are already feeling the effects today.

Re: is orthodox islam possible without sufism ?

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:52 pm
by Asharite
Tassawuf is a science whereby someone manages to remove negative traits from their character and adopt praiseworthy attributes. Some scholars suggest that Tassawuf requires a teacher. One of the greatest tragedies today is the marginalisation of Tassawuf by the Salafist Kharijite ideology.

Re: is orthodox islam possible without sufism ?

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:11 am
by gegiroor
Sufism is byproduct of Kabbalah and Jewish mysticism. It has preceded Islam, and has always been a front group used by enemies of Islam.

Re: is orthodox islam possible without sufism ?

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:06 pm
by paperino
gegiroor wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:11 am Sufism is byproduct of Kabbalah and Jewish mysticism. It has preceded Islam, and has always been a front group used by enemies of Islam.

Re: is orthodox islam possible without sufism ?

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:06 am
by gegiroor
paperino wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:06 pm
gegiroor wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:11 am Sufism is byproduct of Kabbalah and Jewish mysticism. It has preceded Islam, and has always been a front group used by enemies of Islam.


Bro Paperino, now let us look like the Somali Sufis. Now some here call it "science", or a new term that has been concocted as "traditional Muslim".


Re: is orthodox islam possible without sufism ?

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:20 am
by abdikarim86
gegiroor wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:11 am Sufism is byproduct of Kabbalah and Jewish mysticism. It has preceded Islam, and has always been a front group used by enemies of Islam.
Another crazy Salafi :down:

What is it with the purveyors of this ideology and their incessant sectarianism?
Why do they insist on spitting on 1000 years of Muslim theology, practice and spirituality?

Granted some of the Sufi practice is a bit out there, are you really gonna condemn the form of the religion
practiced by Imaam Ghaazaali (The man who through his efforts helped save Ahl Sunnah Wal Jaamaca by bringing together faith and reason).

Re: is orthodox islam possible without sufism ?

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:28 am
by abdikarim86
May God help us and preserve our religion form the onslaught of the Satanic House of Saud and their Wahaabi/Salaafi.

It is amazing that despite billions pumped into spreading their ideology that the vast majority of clerics
are still Maaturiidi and Ashcari when it comes to theology. And the vast majority still associate themselves with the 4 schools of practice.

And May God preserve the Suufis who've contributed immeasurable wealth to the Muslim tradition/culture.
Their poetry, their music, their devotion to God, his prophets and the auliya.

:up:

Re: is orthodox islam possible without sufism ?

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:55 am
by Asharite
We must restore Sufi Ash'ari traditions (Somali Islam) back to the homeland and completely dismantle the Kharijite Salafi ideology. :up:

Re: is orthodox islam possible without sufism ?

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:17 pm
by Basra-
Galli listen to Mufti Menk Ismail---he is great! I recommend ALL Somalis in Somalinet to listen to him

Re: is orthodox islam possible without sufism ?

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:38 pm
by paperino
Basra- wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:17 pm Galli listen to Mufti Menk Ismail---he is great! I recommend ALL Somalis in Somalinet to listen to him
The Mufti studied in Saudi Arabia, therefore, won't appeal to Sufis.

Re: is orthodox islam possible without sufism ?

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:10 pm
by Basra-
paperino

Saudi is filled with Sufis----what is the definition of "Sufis" in your own words?

Re: is orthodox islam possible without sufism ?

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:18 pm
by gegiroor
gegiroor wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:06 am
paperino wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:06 pm
gegiroor wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:11 am Sufism is byproduct of Kabbalah and Jewish mysticism. It has preceded Islam, and has always been a front group used by enemies of Islam.


Bro Paperino, now let us look at the Somali Sufis. Now some here call it "science", or a new term that has been concocted as "traditional Muslim".


Again the roots of Sufism in Kabbalah and Jewish mysticism is self-evident. Now these grave worshipers want to badmouth the only people defending Islam - the Salafi Muslims. Insha'Allah you and your gaalo backers will fail.