How Western civilisation could collapse

[DaacasBiyo]

This guy Thomas Homer-Dixon is predicting that Western civilisation might collapse. I haven't read his book but apparently he predicted some events according to the article.

"Some of these forecasts and early warning signs should sound familiar, precisely because they are already underway. While Homer-Dixon is not surprised at the world’s recent turn of events – he predicted some of them in his 2006 book – he didn’t expect these developments to occur before the mid-2020s."

So by the time Somalia recovers, the West might collapse.


http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2017041 ... d-collapse

[X.Playa]

I hate to say it but we are better off with western hegemony then with the Asiatics these bike races of Asia ( Arabs, Turks, Persians , Indians and oreintals) should never be let to rule the world.

[LeJusticier]

I have mixed feeling and often competing emotions about the obvious forecast of western hegemony which is now in decline and the coming of the new Asian Century.
Then I came this conclusion similar the "Xuunsho and the news of Prophet Muhammad's death peace be upon him":
Xuunsho replied "Markuu noolaaba xaarkaan cuni jiray"

LEJ

[DaacasBiyo]

The West dominated the world through Science and Technology and not Democracy, but they prefer to lie about that and instead favor the democracy talking points even though they overthrew democratically elected governments and propped up dictators. So now comes along China and its very studious students who study relentlessly Science,Technology,Engineering and Math when the students of the West don't take them seriously or hate them. China recently built its own supercomputer without any single foreign component, and they've launched a quantum satellite a while back. The West decline might actually happen more quickly than we expect and we Africans are still not prepared for it that's why we have mixed feelings because our westernized brains can't believe it might actually happen.

[gurey25]

The west is declining not collapsing , they still have a long way to go before they collapse.
Even a collapse is not the end of things, it could re-invigorate them.

[X.Playa]

I have mixed feeling and often competing emotions about the obvious forecast of western hegemony which is now in decline and the coming of the new Asian Century.
Then I came this conclusion similar the "Xuunsho and the news of Prophet Muhammad's death peace be upon him":
Xuunsho replied "Markuu noolaaba xaarkaan cuni jiray"

LEJ

Africa should be leased to Europe in exchange for what I call Cali-Baysteen deal. Where we Africans become welfare recipient in the land for life and the whites to build the land and own it.

It beats our current standard of living. Today I watched a video from Ceerigaabo about local grapes vs Australian grapes the later costing $4. The Somalis in somaliland buy the Australian grape lool.

Dadkaas baa hadana dawarsanaya. These are the people who imports made cakes from UAE and milk from Saudi Arabia.

Instead of brushing our teeth Somalis pray god will do it for them.

Have you guys ever heard anything about the drought after few weeks of partial rain? Nop. They are busy chewing qaad till the next drought in few weeks.

Naclad baa ku so dagtay dadka madow.

[gurey25]

The west will not collapse , the parasitic entity that has taken over government in the west will collapse due to its inherent contradictions. If the plan for WW3 to cancel all unpayable debts and start again is prevented they will recede back to how they were in the 40's and 50's and return to government control.
The french refer to the period after WW2 as Trente Glorieuses, the 30 years of prosperity.
This is the period of the German economic miracle, the Japanese and basicaly all of western Europe.
What they all have in common was that they were all democratic and socialist in one way or another.
The banks were also beasts of burden like donkeys, and governments were the drivers, today the banks are the driver and the governments are the donkeys.

suprisingly the bankers seem to have launched a coordinated takeover of all the west between 1971 and 1974.
This cooincides with the petrodollar and the end of the 30 years boom.
Its wierd that within 2 years every single western european country and even canada , Australia and New zealand all had specific laws banning the government from ever issuing money on its own using public credit, all money issued has to be loaned from banks.
At exactly the same time in all the same countries all the banks started to experiment with derivatives.
The period between 1971 ans 1974 is really interesting.

[LeJusticier]

I have mixed feeling and often competing emotions about the obvious forecast of western hegemony which is now in decline and the coming of the new Asian Century.
Then I came this conclusion similar the "Xuunsho and the news of Prophet Muhammad's death peace be upon him":
Xuunsho replied "Markuu noolaaba xaarkaan cuni jiray"

LEJ

Africa should be leased to Europe in exchange for what I call Cali-Baysteen deal. Where we Africans become welfare recipient in the land for life and the whites to build the land and own it.

It beats our current standard of living. Today I watched a video from Ceerigaabo about local grapes vs Australian grapes the later costing $4. The Somalis in somaliland buy the Australian grape lool.

Dadkaas baa hadana dawarsanaya. These are the people who imports made cakes from UAE and milk from Saudi Arabia.

Instead of brushing our teeth Somalis pray god will do it for them.

Have you guys ever heard anything about the drought after few weeks of partial rain? Nop. They are busy chewing qaad till the next drought in few weeks.

Naclad baa ku so dagtay dadka madow.

I remember as kid there was lot of grapes in ceerigaabo esp Doodi farm. You are right they are busy chewing Kaat till the next drought hadhowtana roob doon ayay akhriyayaan including the president.

[LeJusticier]

The west will not collapse , the parasitic entity that has taken over government in the west will collapse due to its inherent contradictions. If the plan for WW3 to cancel all unpayable debts and start again is prevented they will recede back to how they were in the 40's and 50's and return to government control.
The french refer to the period after WW2 as Trente Glorieuses, the 30 years of prosperity.
This is the period of the German economic miracle, the Japanese and basicaly all of western Europe.
What they all have in common was that they were all democratic and socialist in one way or another.
The banks were also beasts of burden like donkeys, and governments were the drivers, today the banks are the driver and the governments are the donkeys.

suprisingly the bankers seem to have launched a coordinated takeover of all the west between 1971 and 1974.
This cooincides with the petrodollar and the end of the 30 years boom.
Its wierd that within 2 years every single western european country and even canada , Australia and New zealand all had specific laws banning the government from ever issuing money on its own using public credit, all money issued has to be loaned from banks.
At exactly the same time in all the same countries all the banks started to experiment with derivatives.
The period between 1971 ans 1974 is really interesting.

Waw. thanks

[Gaashaanle1000]

The west will collapse and it will not be a pretty site when it does.

Anyone who thinks this won't happen is smoking something good.

All you have to do is realise that everything is built on absolute lies. The world is profoundly sick and unsustainable.

Anyone who lives in Somalia and etched out a life for themselves there will likely have a much better future than Somalis in the west. I am certain of this.

[Twist]

The west will not collapse , the parasitic entity that has taken over government in the west will collapse due to its inherent contradictions. If the plan for WW3 to cancel all unpayable debts and start again is prevented they will recede back to how they were in the 40's and 50's and return to government control.
The french refer to the period after WW2 as Trente Glorieuses, the 30 years of prosperity.
This is the period of the German economic miracle, the Japanese and basicaly all of western Europe.
What they all have in common was that they were all democratic and socialist in one way or another.
The banks were also beasts of burden like donkeys, and governments were the drivers, today the banks are the driver and the governments are the donkeys.

suprisingly the bankers seem to have launched a coordinated takeover of all the west between 1971 and 1974.
This cooincides with the petrodollar and the end of the 30 years boom.
Its wierd that within 2 years every single western european country and even canada , Australia and New zealand all had specific laws banning the government from ever issuing money on its own using public credit, all money issued has to be loaned from banks.
At exactly the same time in all the same countries all the banks started to experiment with derivatives.
The period between 1971 ans 1974 is really interesting.

That last paragraph is interesting and insightful. Do you know a book, or books, that go into detail about that subject? I would like to read that as I have had a sinister view regarding Western banking system for years now, but never tried to study the subject in depth.

[LeJusticier]

The west will not collapse , the parasitic entity that has taken over government in the west will collapse due to its inherent contradictions. If the plan for WW3 to cancel all unpayable debts and start again is prevented they will recede back to how they were in the 40's and 50's and return to government control.
The french refer to the period after WW2 as Trente Glorieuses, the 30 years of prosperity.
This is the period of the German economic miracle, the Japanese and basicaly all of western Europe.
What they all have in common was that they were all democratic and socialist in one way or another.
The banks were also beasts of burden like donkeys, and governments were the drivers, today the banks are the driver and the governments are the donkeys.

suprisingly the bankers seem to have launched a coordinated takeover of all the west between 1971 and 1974.
This cooincides with the petrodollar and the end of the 30 years boom.
Its wierd that within 2 years every single western european country and even canada , Australia and New zealand all had specific laws banning the government from ever issuing money on its own using public credit, all money issued has to be loaned from banks.
At exactly the same time in all the same countries all the banks started to experiment with derivatives.
The period between 1971 ans 1974 is really interesting.

That last paragraph is interesting and insightful. Do you know a book, or books, that go into detail about that subject? I would like to read that as I have had a sinister view regarding Western banking system for years now, but never tried to study the subject in depth.

I know one book that goes into details the elite banking system but I wouldnt advice you...too boring since no Canbar etc In there

[gurey25]

That last paragraph is interesting and insightful. Do you know a book, or books, that go into detail about that subject? I would like to read that as I have had a sinister view regarding Western banking system for years now, but never tried to study the subject in depth.

I havent read any books on this subject but , its not a conspiracy theory this is fact and out there in the open.
I ran into an old friend in sydney recently , he was an economics professor at my university, i was a comp science major but took some electives. He was reminiscing about how he started his career as a banker fresh from university and then quit banking to do his phd later in life.
He was telling me about his first week as an intern in a bank, they sent him on a training course on this new fangled thing they called derivatives trading. This was 1974 it was around the same time commonwealth bank lost its money issuing powers with a new law.
I found the timing strange a few weeks later i was watching a debate on french telivision and this same subject came up.
Apparently every single western european country introduced that law between 1972 and 1974.

[gurey25]

If you want an easy to read but general over view,
i recommend Killing the host by Micheal hudson.

[DaacasBiyo]

That last paragraph is interesting and insightful. Do you know a book, or books, that go into detail about that subject? I would like to read that as I have had a sinister view regarding Western banking system for years now, but never tried to study the subject in depth.

Twist, u got to understand, Money needs Power and vice versa, so you can't just focus on money because it needs its second wheel to run the world. The one guy the elites in the West don't like is Noam Chomsky, he's been exposing their actions for more than 40 years now. He's hated by the Left and by the Right, because he exposes their ideology and their politics. You can find his books online but he's got a lot of videos also on YouTube you can watch, very very interesting guy.