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Shocking truth why somalia is broken

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Jubair ibn Mut’im reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said:

لَيْسَ مِنَّا مَنْ دَعَا إِلَى عَصَبِيَّةٍ وَلَيْسَ مِنَّا مَنْ قَاتَلَ عَلَى عَصَبِيَّةٍ وَلَيْسَ مِنَّا مَنْ مَاتَ عَلَى عَصَبِيَّةٍ

He is not one of us who calls to tribalism. He is not one of us who fights for the sake of tribalism. He is not one of us who dies following the way of tribalism.

Source: Sunan Abī Dāwūd 5121, Grade: Hasan

Thats why in derwiish state somalia won against british because they became 1.

Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said:

وَمَنْ قَاتَلَ تَحْتَ رَايَةٍ عُمِّيَّةٍ يَغْضَبُ لِعَصَبَةٍ أَوْ يَدْعُو إِلَى عَصَبَةٍ أَوْ يَنْصُرُ عَصَبَةً فَقُتِلَ فَقِتْلَةٌ جَاهِلِيَّةٌ وَمَنْ خَرَجَ عَلَى أُمَّتِي يَضْرِبُ بَرَّهَا وَفَاجِرَهَا وَلاَ يَتَحَاشَ مِنْ مُؤْمِنِهَا وَلاَ يَفِي لِذِي عَهْدٍ عَهْدَهُ فَلَيْسَ مِنِّي وَلَسْتُ مِنْهُ

Whoever fights under the banner of one who is blind, raging for the sake of tribalism, or calling to tribalism, or supporting tribalism, and is killed in this state will have died upon ignorance. Whoever rebels against my nation, striking the righteous and wicked alike and sparing not even the believers and he does not fulfill the pledge of security, then he has nothing to do with me and I have nothing to do with him.

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1848, Grade: Sahih

The Prophet s.a.a.w. said: "The covenant which is between us and them is the prayer, and whoever abandoned it has disbelieved." (Tirmithi, Nasa'i and Ahmad)

and

The Prophet s.a.a.w. said: "Between a man and disbelief and shirk is abandoning the prayer." (Muslim)

Explains alot
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Adigu horta whats your qabil intanad wacdi noo bilaabin.
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I so bar mukujiro sheeko gaabaan wa ku kalankilo afka so fariiso
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Maxaan kaa soo baadhi qoladada ba magaranayso garanwaabaad tahay hassan baad laso baxaysa. Bilad argagixso tahay.

Oke another question who do you support in the somali civil war clan federalism do you support alshabaab or the amisom colony run by pug nosed apes.
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I dont support them they are both not helping

somalia could have been rich already only thing keeping us away is the government and brainwashed with qabil and diversity.

They need to invest in training and weapons instead of shops and hotels.

This is why somalia wont be able to rise because government dont see what they can have they all share the money.
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Another question which clan should rule do you think..what's your opinion of siyad barre
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No clan should rule and we need to be 1 nation instead of somaliland puntland djibouti we are all somali from somalia.

Siyad barre did a great thing but not everyone is perfect.

{… So be patient; indeed, the [best] outcome is for the righteous} (Hud 11:49)

This maybe reason why all somalis are still waiting.
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Somalis are Somalis one clan should rule darood rulses now the second position is hawiye. WE have 4.5 4 clans and a half.

Second. This Islamism doesnt work Somalis believe more in qabil than religion.

Quran is good

I am very patient

Did you live under siyad barre regime. Do you know he opposed surah nissa. Do you know he prayed to Jesus do you know he believed in Russian lords marx Lenin shuuci stuff. Do you know he killed 50.000 isaaqs bombed hargeysa.

How was he a good leader
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Why cant ogaden rule or isaaq? Thats why much corruption but if everyone was somali then there would be no difference.

Because many dont have beards like the president and government and many dance and listen to music after a while it becomes normal and shaytaan then has it easier to mislead them to corruption.

my mom was there in his time and her door was open since morning to night.

There was freedom and discipline
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Who is going to fight alshabaab majeerteen marexaan ogaden amisom Kenyan ethiopian interest in the south. How wil you fix that whats your strategy. What kind of governing system.

Secularism
Democracy based on strong Islamic values and ethics
Political Islamism ikwaanism.

Saudi wahabism neosalafism.

Leftist or right wing.

How will you distribute wealth between the clans

Capital's city
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First remove all clan names and clan systems then recruit everyone and pay every soldier higher so they will be motivated.

And buy expensive weapons and make a secret road to open oil and sell it and defend the oil.

After a while somalia has alot of money then buy f35s and tanks and kill al shabaab.

And tell amisom to back off , if they dont just buy alot more strongest tanks easily to intimidate them.

Buy more weapons and give people free homes / open alot of wells and give land to soldiers who faught alot or those who became handicap.

Democracy based on shariah and on islamic values if someone is a hafiz with big beard and has good reputation has better chance then someone with no beard and is no hafiz.

Following the quran and sunnah strictly and prohibit import of pants and tight clothes and music and drugs.

Left wing but strictly following shariah and police on every street with cams.

There will be no clans.

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Your plan Is not bad. But your can't defeat clanism your uncle siyad barre wanted to bury qabyaalaad. Just later to use qabyalaad to fight enemy clans.poverty is an issue who is going to be the president of this new republic. Alshabaab is a home grown organisation people support it because.it fights injustice the south is messed up because of the Italian maffia culture. We cleansed Somaliland of tribal injustice with in 3 years. We dissarmed the snm in 1993. The former clans were forced to join the national army. Their colonels generals we're forced to submit to the newly elected president cigaal. You guys are violent by nature uncivlized a walanweyn can turn from a secularist to a hardline jihadist in just a few days. Ilaaahay haa idin sahlo. The mistake the south made was when they rejected maxammad farax caydiid as president.
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The biggest problem is money, if you have all the money you dont need anyone.

People support al shabasb wgo are brainwashed and have traumatic experience.

Really all they need is 1 drilling of oil and 1 army and ofcourse many become terrorist become of al qaeda and from other countries if they have a choice for stable house goat and work or terrorist bombs i think they would prefer the first.

Somalia needs a sheikh hafiz president following the sunnah and quran instead of these corrupt no beard thieves.

There is too much chaos and corruption its not freedom anymore
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Well somalis are tribe and who ever fights for Somalinimo is not different from fighting for your clan. In reality the problem of the south is it's lack of proper tribilism . Puntland is the only tribilist region and they are More successful than others because they don't rely on any one else.
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Somalinimo is not tribe its being somali without discrimination
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