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If you want peace in Somalia move the capital

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Mogdisho is over crowed and you can not maintain security properly with the budget of somalia.

My advice would be to move the capital to a less crowed city and administrate the country from there.

But at the moment somalia is taking one step forward and two step back.

I hope the whole somalia finds peace.
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SuldaanOfSanaag wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:22 pm Mogdisho is over crowed and you can not maintain security properly with the budget of somalia.

My advice would be to move the capital to a less crowed city and administrate the country from there.

But at the moment somalia is taking one step forward and two step back.

I hope the whole somalia finds peace.
Xamar will always be our capital, but i support Temporarily moving it.

Either Gaalkacyo
Garbaharey
Baladwayne
Or to Garowe since its very developed
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You are absolutely right ! during the Kacaan days, people were not allowed to build on land that did not come under the jurisdiction of Mogadishu local administration, because you cannot provide water, you cannot provide security or education, what is the point of building on such land, but since the fall of the kacaan, we cannot even provide these things to those who live inside the capital, much less to those who live outside it, this is what Alshabab has capitalised on.

Rer Mogadishu have no one to blame but themselves, why don't they listen to government and pay tax, increase revenue of the government and in return get more security and development.
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Adali wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:10 pm You are absolutely right ! during the Kacaan days, people were not allowed to build on land that did not come under the jurisdiction of Mogadishu local administration, because you cannot provide water, you cannot provide security or education, what is the point of building on such land, but since the fall of the kacaan, we cannot even provide these things to those who live inside the capital, much less to those who live outside it, this is what Alshabab has capitalised on.

Rer Mogadishu have no one to blame but themselves, why don't they listen to government and pay tax, increase revenue of the government and in return get more security and development.
i heard siyad barre did not allow hutus like habar gidir to sleep in xamar at night, during day yes, but night time they had to return to their villages, it was to keep out their criminal behaviour,
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kismayo or afmadow will be nice, waa clean and green and lots of peacefukl people, pntland is too dangerous with atom and alshahab and soldiers under paid,

to be fair in terms of taxation, these people already get taxed when the goods land in the sea port or airport, taxing them again is a rip off specially by a goverment that steals money, if they want to increase tax, why announce it like that, why not just increase it at the point of entry rather than going around with corrupt soldiers to collect it from individual shops in bakaraha, other wise its double taxation, if you want to tax again, just be smart with it and increase it the point of entry,
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TeeriReturns wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:49 pm
Adali wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:10 pm You are absolutely right ! during the Kacaan days, people were not allowed to build on land that did not come under the jurisdiction of Mogadishu local administration, because you cannot provide water, you cannot provide security or education, what is the point of building on such land, but since the fall of the kacaan, we cannot even provide these things to those who live inside the capital, much less to those who live outside it, this is what Alshabab has capitalised on.

Rer Mogadishu have no one to blame but themselves, why don't they listen to government and pay tax, increase revenue of the government and in return get more security and development.
i heard siyad barre did not allow hutus like habar gidir to sleep in xamar at night, during day yes, but night time they had to return to their villages, it was to keep out their criminal behaviour,
No that was the Italian way, they use to ring a bell after dawn and that meant all Hawiye would have to leave the city, family lived in Mogadishu at the time, not that they were treated any better, the amount of Darood that got arrested for fighting or even killing italians was insane.

The Rer xamar had the best treatment out of any other Rer mogadishu. Mainly because the Italian recognized them as more civilized and docile to their rule.

The Italian also separated Darood from and Italian residents, because the Italians would beg Daroods and ask for loans, this ruined their false sense superior status, Italian mafia also use to have prostitution rings, even after the colonial era some half-italian Somalis who stayed behind and did not move with the Italians were looked down on during the kacaan era, we had a neighbour, walle Somalis are racist, to cut the story short, it was a shit hole full of garacs, indians, xamari and the hutus were treated like midgo, to be honest, Mogadishu only shined under the Kacaan, the blessed Kacaan build Mogadishu and invited all Somalis to take part, however we had to control the population, if we allowed too many people too fast, there would not be enough water and security etc in the city for all.

Hawiye hated this, this is why they invaded Mogadishu like a bunch of Oromo savages and ransacked the city. :lol:
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TeeriReturns wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:49 pm
Adali wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:10 pm You are absolutely right ! during the Kacaan days, people were not allowed to build on land that did not come under the jurisdiction of Mogadishu local administration, because you cannot provide water, you cannot provide security or education, what is the point of building on such land, but since the fall of the kacaan, we cannot even provide these things to those who live inside the capital, much less to those who live outside it, this is what Alshabab has capitalised on.

Rer Mogadishu have no one to blame but themselves, why don't they listen to government and pay tax, increase revenue of the government and in return get more security and development.
i heard siyad barre did not allow hutus like habar gidir to sleep in xamar at night, during day yes, but night time they had to return to their villages, it was to keep out their criminal behaviour,
Something tells me if that was the case Siyad barre's Aun demise wouldn't have happened like it did after all hutuda habargidir waa weaklings who were refused to sleep in their own city by banu hashim arab brother's daroogo.
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TeeriReturns wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:57 pm kismayo or afmadow will be nice, waa clean and green and lots of peacefukl people, pntland is too dangerous with atom and alshahab and soldiers under paid,

to be fair in terms of taxation, these people already get taxed when the goods land in the sea port or airport, taxing them again is a rip off specially by a goverment that steals money, if they want to increase tax, why announce it like that, why not just increase it at the point of entry rather than going around with corrupt soldiers to collect it from individual shops in bakaraha, other wise its double taxation, if you want to tax again, just be smart with it and increase it the point of entry,
I agree that Jubaland should be fair in taxation and allow others to also buy land and build on land when required to increase the size of the city depending on the budget. However to attain political stability, the security and politics should be only Mareexaan and Ogaadeen. This should be muqadis.
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Re: If you want peace in Somalia move the capital

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FarhanYare wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:00 pm
TeeriReturns wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:49 pm
Adali wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:10 pm You are absolutely right ! during the Kacaan days, people were not allowed to build on land that did not come under the jurisdiction of Mogadishu local administration, because you cannot provide water, you cannot provide security or education, what is the point of building on such land, but since the fall of the kacaan, we cannot even provide these things to those who live inside the capital, much less to those who live outside it, this is what Alshabab has capitalised on.

Rer Mogadishu have no one to blame but themselves, why don't they listen to government and pay tax, increase revenue of the government and in return get more security and development.
i heard siyad barre did not allow hutus like habar gidir to sleep in xamar at night, during day yes, but night time they had to return to their villages, it was to keep out their criminal behaviour,
Something tells me if that was the case Siyad barre's Aun demise wouldn't have happened like it did after all hutuda habargidir waa weaklings who were refused to sleep in their by banu hashim arab brothers...
Siad Barre AUN did not do anything bad to hutus bro this is propaganda by SSDF remnants, sure there was some geeljire Daroods from various northern towns and Kilinka who were arrogant towards Hawiye, even some Mareexaan, however they all feared Siad Barre and never took it too far, this is straight facts.

Mogadishu dad shaqo ku laheen baa been ka sheego, any Hawiye who actually lived there during the Kacaan miss those days, because although nobody had right for self determination and representation, everyone had free school, health care, security and during the 80s economic freedom beyond small business, the bank, the large industries were starting to become privatized in the 80s before the country went to shitts.

Siad Barre did what he needed to do, in the early part of the Kacaan he improved security and eradicated corruption, build the army, education, health care, infrastructure etc, and then started to privatize it when Somalis were more educated.
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Move the capital to shithole towns like Garowe or Garabaharey infested by jebert's who don't even have a single toliet? NO thank you
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That’s not going to deter bombs going off in Mugadisho, if the government packs their bags tommorow, alshabaab and their shady collaborators will still target the biggest city in Somalia.
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Advo wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:29 am That’s not going to deter bombs going off in Mugadisho, if the government packs their bags tommorow, alshabaab and their shady collaborators will still target the biggest city in Somalia.
:lol: Finally some common sense
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KUSH wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:45 pm Move the capital to shithole towns like Garowe or Garabaharey infested by jebert's who don't even have a single toliet? NO thank you
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Xaargeyza to the somali capital :som: :up:


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