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any information about the earliest Somali kingdom that fought against the Habasha ? 12-15th century Somalis.

You can use any relevant information such as historical document, oral history such as clan lineage and stories.

We were the founder's of that kingdom.

Cadal Adal afars habarmagaadle harari gurage Muslims. Harla and geri later joined.

Khalid Ali wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:51 pm We were the founder's of that kingdom.

Cadal Adal afars habarmagaadle harari gurage Muslims. Harla and geri later joined.

Sa'ad al-Din (Arabic: سعد الدين‎) also written Saad Eddine or Saadeddine is a historical character what lineage does he come under in the Isaac clan ? Also what oral history do you have to make this claim ?

Geri, Habarmagaadle are mentioned in the Adal era, Ifat came before Adal.

I have to ask around there is a book written by an ayub isaaq guy in the 17 century. His wife was geri koombe. The guy lives in hargeysa His great grandson. I have to ask around. Also nuux ismaciil especially reer gediid used to intermarry allot with geri koombe. Isaaqs especially habarawal used to big shots hararghe jigjiga

I heard Amiir Nuur and Ahmed Gurey were both Urmidig. Look u see Iiidooors who claime them or cede to Oromo or Afar, sono stronzi wlhi.

bashe19 wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:32 pm I heard Amiir Nuur and Ahmed Gurey were both Urmidig. Look u see Iiidooors who claime them or cede to Oromo or Afar, sono stronzi wlhi.

Nope Amiir Nuur is Reer Mataan, and this thread isn;t about Adal its about Ifat.

I know many present day Somali clans do not have the abtirsi culture that goes beyond 20 generation, some even lower like 10 generation. Its because present day Somalis have been somilized by the early Somalis of Ifat, the Isaac clan is Ahlu bait they are some of the latest arrivals to the Somali peninsula, bot Darood and Hawiye were present before them.

You need to have abtirsi of +25 to have any relevance in Ifat or Walaashama kingdoms.

Adali wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:47 pm any information about the earliest Somali kingdom that fought against the Habasha ? 12-15th century Somalis.

You can use any relevant information such as historical document, oral history such as clan lineage and stories.

They were Gadabuursi and descended from Walashmawho were Gadabuursi, check with Roble, he showed us before the links unfortunately he disappeared from Somali forums after Oromo his beloved people killed the Gadabuursi last year. He was good in history unfortunately he was half Ethiopian (Tigray)from his mother side.

Canuck2 wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:03 pm

Adali wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:47 pm any information about the earliest Somali kingdom that fought against the Habasha ? 12-15th century Somalis.

You can use any relevant information such as historical document, oral history such as clan lineage and stories.

They were Gadabuursi and descended from Walashmawho were Gadabuursi, check with Roble, he showed us before the links unfortunately he disappeared from Somali forums after Oromo his beloved people killed the Gadabuursi last year. He was good in history unfortunately he was half Ethiopian (Tigray)from his mother side.

Isn't Rooble Gedabursi with Mareexaan Rer Abti ? or are you talking about another Rooble ?

Yes Gedabursi has an interesting history, they are the Isaac claim the same tribe Habar Magaadle in Adal, however I am more interested in the Gerri who also have alot of history, Gerri Koombe Kablalax Darood is close in terms of Lineage to Marehan Sade Darood.

Adali wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:06 pm

Canuck2 wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:03 pm

Adali wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:47 pm any information about the earliest Somali kingdom that fought against the Habasha ? 12-15th century Somalis.

You can use any relevant information such as historical document, oral history such as clan lineage and stories.

They were Gadabuursi and descended from Walashmawho were Gadabuursi, check with Roble, he showed us before the links unfortunately he disappeared from Somali forums after Oromo his beloved people killed the Gadabuursi last year. He was good in history unfortunately he was half Ethiopian (Tigray)from his mother side.

Isn't Rooble Gedabursi with Mareexaan Rer Abti ? or are you talking about another Rooble ?

Yes Gedabursi has an interesting history, they are the Isaac claim the same tribe Habar Magaadle in Adal, however I am more interested in the Gerri who also have alot of history, Gerri Koombe Kablalax Darood is close in terms of Lineage to Marehan Sade Darood.

I don’t about the Marehan mother guy, but this guy lives in London UK and ass kiss the Ethiopians and claimed that his clan has the closest ties with the habashi. I will show his picture one second.

Adali wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:06 pm

Canuck2 wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:03 pm

Adali wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:47 pm any information about the earliest Somali kingdom that fought against the Habasha ? 12-15th century Somalis.

You can use any relevant information such as historical document, oral history such as clan lineage and stories.

They were Gadabuursi and descended from Walashmawho were Gadabuursi, check with Roble, he showed us before the links unfortunately he disappeared from Somali forums after Oromo his beloved people killed the Gadabuursi last year. He was good in history unfortunately he was half Ethiopian (Tigray)from his mother side.

Isn't Rooble Gedabursi with Mareexaan Rer Abti ? or are you talking about another Rooble ?

Yes Gedabursi has an interesting history, they are the Isaac claim the same tribe Habar Magaadle in Adal, however I am more interested in the Gerri who also have alot of history, Gerri Koombe Kablalax Darood is close in terms of Lineage to Marehan Sade Darood.

This rooble hated Somalis more than anything else and used to bring Oromo jarso users and claimed that they were dir. he is member here also have picture of Tuareg Warrior as profile picture.

Adali wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:47 pm any information about the earliest Somali kingdom that fought against the Habasha ? 12-15th century Somalis.

You can use any relevant information such as historical document, oral history such as clan lineage and stories.

Small note for you harti clans have their own lands in north and don’t need JL but you Absame who needs dhulbahante.

Ifat was Habesha and Oromo kingdom that began in Shewa. It was situated near Walaale town in Oromia.

Founded by the Makhzumis it was later taken over by the Walashma dynasty.

It consisted of Habesha, Oromo and Arab migrants.

Adali, are the owners of Snet paying you to create this, potentially, platinum thread?

zumaale wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:28 pm Adali, are the owners of Snet paying you to create this, potentially, platinum thread?

Snet should pay me but nah I am just interested in Somali history.

Somali history has been suppressed, there are ancient towns in the entire area of former Adal that belonged to former Somali kingdoms that have not been excavated or researched.

The only thing we have that connects us to our history is our oral history, lineage, stories etc and foreign documents. Our identity the Somali identity is based alot on our shared history as Somali people, yet we know so little about it.

That is why people are stuck on colonial history, like SL etc yet they don't know what we were prior to colonial.

Adali wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:36 pm

zumaale wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:28 pm Adali, are the owners of Snet paying you to create this, potentially, platinum thread?

Snet should pay me but nah I am just interested in Somali history.

Somali history has been surprised, there are ancient towns in the entire area of former Adal that belonged to former Somali kingdoms that have not been excavated or researched.

The only thing we have that connects us to our history is our oral history, lineage, stories etc and foreign documents. Our identity the Somali identity is based alot on our shared history as Somali people, yet we know so little about it.

Are you sure they were former Somali Kingdoms? Just saying bro.

Good luck in your endeavuor.