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Oromos were divided just like Somalis-take a peak

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''The name 'Galla,' (used by the Abyssinians, Arabs, and Europeans), signifies in their own language ''immigrants.'' The Oromos in their own tongue call themselves: 'Orma,' i.e. ''men'' by way of eminence, brave men. Their country we may call 'Ormania,' compromising the whole extent of the Oromo country. This name was first given by Dr. Krapf.

On the first appearance of these people in Abyssinia, they were a very wild and warlike people; and had they been united under one chieftain, would soon have CONQUERED ABYSSINIA AND THE WHOLE OF EAST AFRICA. But when they had seized upon the finest Abyssinian provinces by means of their numerous cavalry, they began to dispute and fight among themselves for what they had conquered: this hindered their further progress, and made the subjugation of their divided an easy matter to the Abyssinian rulers.

The Oromos in general have a manly appearance; they are tall, athletic, and of a fierce countenance, rendered still more wild in appearance by the long hair which hangs in plaits over their shoulders. They anoint their body and long upper garment with butter; their weapons are spear, sword, and shield. Only the Mohammedan Oromos in the north fo Shoa have learned the use of fire-arms, by their intercourse with Christian Abyssinia.

The Oromos are in the habit of going abroad only on horse-back, as it is considered a disgrace with them to go on foot.

Their country is genrally very fertile and beautiful, and the climate fine. What a beautiful country would Ormania be, if it were blessed with the influence of Christianity and of Christian civilization!

The Oromos are generally of a dark brown color. Owing to their handsome features and superior intellectual qualities, they fetch a higher price in the slave markets than other East Aricans.''

[Pauline Fatme, First Fruits of the Gallas to Christ Jesus. Translated ... by Dr. Krapf. Revised and edited by J. E. Dalton
Published in 1857: pages 7-10]


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Obbo wachi I think you suffer from amnesia.You sound more like your Gurage brother aw shirtam aka rastaale.


How were tou divided unless Oromos divided themselves the Showa Oromos sided with Amharas and butchered the rest.Then we were left with orphans like you.
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Django wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:42 pm Obbo wachi I think you suffer from amnesia.You sound more like your Gurage brother aw shirtam aka rastaale.


How were tou divided unless Oromos divided themselves the Showa Oromos sided with Amharas and butchered the rest.Then we were left with orphans like you.

Not at all sir, I have never said Oromos were ''always united.''
I've been honest about our strengths, and weaknesses.
We're human, after-all sir; we're bound to have our flaws.
LOL hawdian aka rastaale hates me, actually.
i know him well, we've debated for years.
he loves the habasha more than me and i'm ethiopian-oromo, LOL.
deep down, he also loves his ogaden brothers and sisters, and other somalis, i forced him to admit this much,
but he's adamant about saying and believing that somalis should not all put their eggs in one basket.
he wants somalis to have multiple states (djibouti, somalia, somali-land, ethiopia, kenya).

our expansion divided us. we assimilated into the cultures of those around us, and at times, assimilated others.

LOL you're funny man. i ain't an orphan, alhamdulilah, and i know my clan, and lineage.
half my family submitted peacefully, and retained some autonomy.
the other half of my fam refused and thus, fought menelik bravely for 5-7 years, and then lost in the end, due to a lack of guns.
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Oromo Is not homogeneous group. Oromos differ in culture and tradition more than any other cushitic group. Because oromos captured allot of different ethnic groups and assimilated them. Besides the term galla was given to oromos by somali particularly isaaq. Because we couldnt place oromos in a religious cultural group. So we called you gaala madow. The black pagans. The habashas pickt it up later from us and started calling you gallas and those refused to become amhara and Christian. Were banned from Abyssinia altogether and fled into Sudan or into SomalI territories
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Khalid Ali wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:53 pm Oromo Is not homogeneous group. Oromos differ in culture and tradition more than any other cushitic group. Because oromos captured allot of different ethnic groups and assimilated them. Besides the term galla was given to oromos by somali particularly isaaq. Because we couldnt place oromos in a religious cultural group. So we called you gaala madow. The black pagans. The habashas pickt it up later from us and started calling you gallas and those refused to become amhara and Christian. Were banned from Abyssinia altogether and fled into Sudan or into SomalI territories
Khalid if Oromos is not homogenous wachis can argue that even Isaaq is not homogenous. Because the Isaaq nation is comprised of Abesha,Dir,Arab,Oromo and midgan groups having integrated.
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Isaaq have one culture one history one patriach sheikh isxaaq ibn ahmed alridawi and his 8 sons. Buired in maydh. We have no midgaans.no.muse dheriyo or tumaal not do we have yibir wey noo xisaansanyihin isaaq is habarmagaadle.habar xabusheed those 2 breaches. We might have some habasha on our maternal side not sure about oromos though could be . Isaaq is very homogenous in terms of culture traditions abtirsiin abablayn waxanu nahay abta usareysa. Adaanuhuna adinbu leeyahay iyo arday carbeed eh.
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But then how can you explain the mutants like awrastale he claims to be Isaq but he eats laxoox with tera sega.
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Hawdian is an Ethiopianiologist. There are some white kids who are into starwars. He is into Ethiopia. Everyone fancies something i don't know It's his hobby
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The oromo girls are very beautiful indeed
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Khalid Ali wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:13 pm Isaaq have one culture one history one patriach sheikh isxaaq ibn ahmed alridawi and his 8 sons. Buired in maydh. We have no midgaans.no.muse dheriyo or tumaal not do we have yibir wey noo xisaansanyihin isaaq is habarmagaadle.habar xabusheed those 2 breaches. We might have some habasha on our maternal side not sure about oromos though could be . Isaaq is very homogenous in terms of culture traditions abtirsiin abablayn waxanu nahay abta usareysa. Adaanuhuna adinbu leeyahay iyo arday carbeed eh.
Khalid Ali do you admit you have alot of Galla blood from intermarriages for centuries, more so than other Isaac ?
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Lol I never understood why Somalis think having oromo blood is bad. We're neighbors, you're bound to have some oromo influence and vice versa for oromo.
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No the first gallas we came into interaction with was around 1680. When the gallas were moving in big numbers in central ethiopia and around bale. They reached hararghe around the early 1700 as. This was after adal fractured and was weak. And Eritrean Christian soldiers arrived with the turks in zeila. To make sure the Turks don't support the Muslims against the Christians in ethiopia. So that the turks play a mediating role. Most of our interaction with the gallas were afranqallu and some karrayu.but not much intermarriage between us an them. The isaaqs are very racist when it comes to marriage qof lagaranayu iyo reerkagaranayo. It's mostly between ourselvess for centuries. Habarawal is very large clan with in isaaq we border the adaris hararis and oromos around hararghe around harar. The gadabuursi in the west. Ciidagalle Arab in the south. Ogaden maxammad subeer in the hawd bartire and abaskul around jigjiga zone the ciises in Djibouti. Awal bari with hy and hj in burco.
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That article is not entirely accurate. Seems like the author was new to the region and the subject he tried addressing.

Orma is not Oromo.

Orma are small segment from Kenya and southern Somalia.

If anything they are related to the Borana but Oromo is not derived from Orma.

I am starting to question if Waachis is Oromo at all. These are basic knowledge.

Saying Oromo came from Orma is like saying Somali name was derived from Sacad or Saleban in HG.

Oromo pre-dates Orma. Oromo is the shell and Orma is splitter group of the Borana moiety.

Once again Waachis quoted a Western amateur and his diary.
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Rastaale,


https://books.google.com/books?id=xmp2l ... mo&f=false

All oromo originate from the orma family.
Read for yourself from a very authentic book or source.


Even if that were wrong, as far as oromo the name, not tribe, coming From orma, it doesn't mean the rest is wrong.
Orma is both the name of an oromo family, and a tribe of the oromo, you idiot.
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Waachis wrote: Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:43 am Lol I never understood why Somalis think having oromo blood is bad. We're neighbors, you're bound to have some oromo influence and vice versa for oromo.
Only khalid thinks like this even though his Sacad Muse is 80% Galla blood, anyway, as a Somali Habasha blood is far worse. At least Oromo are beautiful people, Habasha have bugged eyes crooked nose, kinky hair and are generally extremely short people. :lol:
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