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So far I'm writing the script for 01, which is on the ancient pre-islamic period, and I came to a point where I needed to define what a Somali is?
The term Somaal means to go and milk as Tumaal means to go and strike the anvil, so what make a Somali, Somali? I'm trying to be as objective as possible, and isn't the word Somali medieval? With evidence only going back as far as the 10-14th centuries?

Help me out brothers and sisters.

Am not sure. I saw years ago a text by ibn Masud the geographer mentioning a Somali slave in Yemen accompanying an Arab.

That text was from the 800s A.D

X.Playa wrote: Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:28 am Am not sure. I saw years ago a text by ibn Masud the geographer mentioning a Somali slave in Yemen accompanying an Arab.

That text was from the 800s A.D

And so the word 'Somali' was mentioned in arabic?

ZubeirAwal wrote: Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:41 am

X.Playa wrote: Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:28 am Am not sure. I saw years ago a text by ibn Masud the geographer mentioning a Somali slave in Yemen accompanying an Arab.

That text was from the 800s A.D

And so the word 'Somali' was mentioned in arabic?

Yes in one volume of ibn Said or Al Masudi which ever was the geographer.

Good luck and do your research so it serves academic purpose unlike so called Somali historians who put crap together to serve their tribal supremacies.

I believe you are going in the right direction. Indeed it makes sense Somaali means to go milk same way Tumaal means to strike or beat hence blacksmith (strike metals).

I believe in ancient Somali culture people had names derived from their professions, lifestyle and looks, manners, news and fortunes.

This is no different than midevil England with names such as Farmer, Smith, Laborer, Baker, Cook, Dean, Doctor, Hunter and so forth.

Somaal, Tumaal, Xogmaal, Etc.

^ Biyomaal, Baajimaal, Soomaal, Xam/Xoogmaal

There is sacmaal. And there je biyomaal farmers.
And then there is thumaal.

i read from arabic book, if memory serves me right ,it was in the same book that talked about sheekh isxaaq , the author mentioned the original nme of somal, that it was named a xabashi military governorn who was sent by the xabashi king to control the area from zeila to xafun ,his name was Soma ben Tesemma .the name was written in arabic as صوما بن تسمة

maybe someone can look it and see if this name even existed in the xabashi history.

ramzy2277 wrote: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:50 pm i read from arabic book, if memory serves me right ,it was in the same book that talked about sheekh isxaaq , the author mentioned the original nme of somal, that it was named a xabashi military governorn who was sent by the xabashi king to control the area from zeila to xafun ,his name was Soma ben Tesemma .the name was written in arabic as صوما بن تسمة

maybe someone can look it and see if this name even existed in the xabashi history.

Do you have the reference for that akhi

If that's true and Somalis were named after an Ethiopian general it would be scandouluse.

ramzy2277 wrote: Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:04 am

My father mentioned Sheekh isxaaaq himself mentioned that a Ethiopian king that lived a century before ishaaq had a son that was called Somaa, and he had a expedition to Hafun, Sheekh isxaaaq then said the people added a and l to make it somaal, I asked him for a source he says its in the makhdoodaat.

we have to find other sources, especially from the xabash archive, i remember i downloaded a book that have all of their kings chronicles, maybe that guy soma is mentioned there.

if i come across something similar i will update you here.

by the way, what happened to your great thread that contained hundred of pictures of somaliland.

it should be sticky thread.

so sad this forum is full of trolls and faqash.

we need a forum dedicated to somalilanders.

someone need to document all the great stuff made by somaliland before some envious faqash delete them and they will be forgotten.

ramzy2277 wrote: Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:50 pm we have to find other sources, especially from the xabash archive, i remember i downloaded a book that have all of their kings chronicles, maybe that guy soma is mentioned there.

if i come across something similar i will update you here.

by the way, what happened to your great thread that contained hundred of pictures of somaliland.

it should be sticky thread.

so sad this forum is full of trolls and faqash.

we need a forum dedicated to somalilanders.

someone need to document all the great stuff made by somaliland before some envious faqash delete them and they will be forgotten.

Wallahi someone removed it from the sticky, garan maayo

ramzy2277 wrote: Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:50 pm we have to find other sources, especially from the xabash archive, i remember i downloaded a book that have all of their kings chronicles, maybe that guy soma is mentioned there.

if i come across something similar i will update you here.

by the way, what happened to your great thread that contained hundred of pictures of somaliland.

it should be sticky thread.

so sad this forum is full of trolls and faqash.

we need a forum dedicated to somalilanders.

someone need to document all the great stuff made by somaliland before some envious faqash delete them and they will be forgotten.

Yes we should make a forum dedicated to Somaliland