Jawari apparently has alot of power

[Adali]

who would have thought a speaker of parliament a Raxanweyn would hold so much power in the Somali power structure, he refused to resign after a request from the President himself, now he is literally embarrassing the government using AMISOM, is Jawari the president or Farmaajo ? I am literally following the situation in complete awe of Jawari nerve, he is acting way out of his responsibility and is doing a coup.

Some of the Damuljadid are backing him because they have always opposed the government and tried to sabotage it, but this time it is different, Jawari is calling for civil war while being protected by AMISOM himself.

Notice Jawari has now gone directly against the President, he has complained about the SNA and is hiding with AMISOM, should Jawari become speaker of parliament for Uganda, since he is not even trusting SNA. haha

[Shirib]

Isn't it the executive that are pretty much calling for civil war? They're the ones who brought the SNA to a parliamentary meeting first a few weeks back. This whole ordeal has been a terribly miscalculation by Kheyre and Farmaajo. The only MPs who are actually for this are cabinet members and others who have been paid off.

[Adali]

Isn't it the executive that are pretty much calling for civil war? They're the ones who brought the SNA to a parliamentary meeting first a few weeks back. This whole ordeal has been a terribly miscalculation by Kheyre and Farmaajo. The only MPs who are actually for this are cabinet members and others who have been paid off.

SNA has always been involved in the security of parliament proceedings, casting mistrust on SNA is a greatly disparaging to our armed forces that protects us from Alshabab. So in essence this is a massive allegation that should not be taken lightly, for someone of his position to cast such allegations should automatically make him unfit to be speaker of parliament or even hold any role in Somali politics. Thankfully we have a vice speaker who is ready to take over Jawari position, he sullied his name what a way to retire.

What has t he executive branch of the government done, the SNA was brought by the security apparatus and that is not the executive branch jurisdiction.

I agree they wanted to get rid of Jawari for some time due to their own reasons, but the way Jawari has gone about defending himself has been nothing short of a disaster, he has succeeded in turning everyone against him, and even Damuljadid have started to forsake the old man.

apparently he come with more than 50 armed militia, this is nothing short of an attempted coup, he will probably arrested ! because it is illegal to bring private militia inside the parliament.

[Icey]

He should've resigned gracefully. Doesn't he feel embarrassed

[Shirib]

Isn't it the executive that are pretty much calling for civil war? They're the ones who brought the SNA to a parliamentary meeting first a few weeks back. This whole ordeal has been a terribly miscalculation by Kheyre and Farmaajo. The only MPs who are actually for this are cabinet members and others who have been paid off.

SNA has always been involved in the security of parliament proceedings, casting mistrust on SNA is a greatly disparaging to our armed forces that protects us from Alshabab. So in essence this is a massive allegation that should not be taken lightly, for someone of his position to cast such allegations should automatically make him unfit to be speaker of parliament or even hold any role in Somali politics. Thankfully we have a vice speaker who is ready to take over Jawari position, he sullied his name what a way to retire.

What has t he executive branch of the government done, the SNA was brought by the security apparatus and that is not the executive branch jurisdiction.

I agree they wanted to get rid of Jawari for some time due to their own reasons, but the way Jawari has gone about defending himself has been nothing short of a disaster, he has succeeded in turning everyone against him, and even Damuljadid have started to forsake the old man.

apparently he come with more than 50 armed militia, this is nothing short of an attempted coup, he will probably arrested ! because it is illegal to bring private militia inside the parliament.

A few weeks ago during parliamentary meetings the SNA entered the hearings. This wasn't regular security, it was a show of force and provocation by Kheyre. The security apparatus is not an independent organization it takes orders from the Executive branch and it should stay out of politics. That was a big miscalculation by Kheyre and it could lead us back to warlord era.

If they want to get rid of Jawaari, it's simple get enough votes to vote him out. If they can't do that, then they need to stop holding the country hostage with these political power games.

Kheyre and co. are trying to render parliament useless and want power concentrated in the Executive branch. If this works it might not actually be that bad short term. It would eliminate most in fighting and would allow for quicker implementation of policies. But it's playing with fire and if it backfires, it could lead back to warlord era where everyone calls on their own militias and carves out their territory.

It's a dangerous power move, may Allah help the people of Somalia.

[Murax]

I’m confused what has this guy done? He was the first educated professional to enter Somali politics after that Shariif era. The spoiler mps shouldn’t be entertained. Leave Him be.

[Shirib]

I’m confused what has this guy done? He was the first educated professional to enter Somali politics after that Shariif era. The spoiler mps shouldn’t be entertained. Leave Him be.

From the looks of things and my analysis, Kheyre and Farmaajo just don't wanna deal with parliament anymore. They want things to be approved by the cabinet and straight to the executives. They want power to be concentrated with them and not in parliament. Jawaari is just the face of parliament that has to be eliminated since he won't allow that.

The thing is that maybe what Somalia needs right now, if indeed they have the full backing of the SNA and they can monopolize force it could be successful in actually getting rid of internal strife within parliament and the same old two step that we've been through this past century. The cost would be pretty much 0 accountability by the government.

However if the move backfires and the SNA fractures or certain leaders can raise large enough militias we would be back to square 1 in 1991 where we have a bunch of warlords running the show. It's definitely playing with fire and very high stakes.

[grandpakhalif]

Jawaari has proven corrupt and power hungry he must go for the sake of Somalia's stability.

[Shirib]

Jawaari has proven corrupt and power hungry he must go for the sake of Somalia's stability.

What are the corruption charges against him?

[Adali]

I’m confused what has this guy done? He was the first educated professional to enter Somali politics after that Shariif era. The spoiler mps shouldn’t be entertained. Leave Him be.

he had a good name among Somalis, but he has reduced his respectable status down to a militia leader, he entered the parliament with plus 50 armed militia and proceeded with intimidating mps, the SNA quickly took over the building and AMISOM escorted him out whereby Jawari held a little press conference where he said he will not step down as speaker, he has put the final nail in his coffin with this stunt lol.

[Shirib]

Adali,

What reason are Kheyre and Farmaajo saying to remove Jawaari?

[Adali]

Adali,

What reason are Kheyre and Farmaajo saying to remove Jawaari?

I don't think Farmaajo has anything to do with this at all, it is clear as daylight that the parliament wants him gone with a clear majority, and he accused Kheyre for lobbying the parliament against him. He held a meeting with Farmaajo where he literally begged the president to support him or at least stop the motion against him, Farmaajo told him simply he can't stop a motion against him and told him he can resign amicably or face the motion, Jawari then accused Farmaajo for being in on it.

There is no conspiracy against Jawari, people who want him gone have various reasons, and it is the right of the MPs to choose their speaker.

[Shirib]

I doubt they can muster up the 2/3rd they will need to remove Jawaari.

[CaliBurco]

So the speaker of parliament is rahanweyn? What are the charges against him? Hearing people mention he's corrupt but haven't come across anything going into detail. He's going nowhere unless he resigns or substantial evidence is provided that result in criminal charges. I commend his stance.

[original dervish]

How can any Somali politician accuse another of taking/paying bribes when we know they all do this?
The main problem is that the Somali political/security institutions are dysfunctional.....riddled with corruption, incompetence and illegality.

There will be no Somali revival until we solve the problem of competing security/intelligence/political networks.