why do absame have birthname and coronation name?

[Typhoon]

for example alot of emirs from harar, ifat and adal were absame, but for some reason they used to have a birth name and coronation name, like Sa'ad ad-Din,Mansur ad-Din and Sabr ad-Din, this was not the case with marexaan
in Monarchic system this is called Regnal name
saldandi absame has had more in common with european/levant systems


i think the next frontiers for snet history buffs is studying ogadeen history because we only scratch the survice of these clans
ogadeen occupies 2/3 of somali territory, you can see their footprint from wagooyi all the way to nairobi.
alot of somali religious leaders and poets used to come from absame and during the islamic age their role was second to none.

why do ogadeens have no interest in their history, 8 out of 10 greatest poets and gabays are from ogadeen they produced sayed abdallah hassan and siad barre yet people think ogadeens are like your regular somali clan which is a insult to say the least.

[Khalid Ali]

Ogaden are a weak clan they are still occupied they claim to be 5 million yet they have given up the war against Ethiopia. 2.5 million Eritreans fought and broke away. Ogaden are very low iq maskaxiyan waa ciyaal. Ogaden are good for dhaanto and dancing but xukun iyo aduun shaqo kumaleh. Gabay iyo hadal iyo geeraar maxay taraysa hadanad meelnaku xukumin. They control only kismayo with the help of kikiyu.

[Typhoon]

Ogaden are a weak clan they are still occupied they claim to be 5 million yet they have given up the war against Ethiopia. 2.5 million Eritreans fought and broke away. Ogaden are very low iq maskaxiyan waa ciyaal. Ogaden are good for dhaanto and dancing but xukun iyo aduun shaqo kumaleh. Gabay iyo hadal iyo geeraar maxay taraysa hadanad meelnaku xukumin. They control only kismayo with the help of kikiyu.

if it wasnt for ogadeen rule over you, you would be habash or you would be attanding sunday mass at church of hargeisa

ogadeen is not a clan they are a nation, ogadeen are larger then, denmark, georgia, norway and finland.

50 thousand ogadeen die every year, yet, that still doesnt impact their population, infact ogadeen in kenya are the fastest growing group in kenya.
now compare that to your people who lost 5000 people in 1988 and waile contantly about genocide at the hargeisa wailing wall next to the cart-box plane

lets keep clean it khalid, this is educational thread

[Khalid Ali]

It was sheikh madar who advised the ogaden sign treaties with the Brits they refused and went to menelik he conquered them ever since they are his subject. Numbers are useless the gallas are 45 million and are under Abyssinian socially and mentally. Isaaq values life we cherish life that's why we care love our martyrs.

As for Sayid sigeyste Sayid siigeyste hated ogaden maxammas subeer he raided them more than 3 times . Ogaden tried to kill Sayid siigeyste many isaaq supported Sayid siigeyste in the early stage of the dervishes. And we're top leaders in the dervish movement. I don't think ogaden is worth anything hadal iyo w axaasi waxmataran lacag iyo siyasad iyo xukun baa wax tara what's the point of having land when you can't make laws for those lands

[Typhoon]

It was sheikh madar who advised the ogaden sign treaties with the Brits they refused and went to menelik he conquered them ever since they are his subject. Numbers are useless the gallas are 45 million and are under Abyssinian socially and mentally. Isaaq values life we cherish life that's why we care love our martyrs.

As for Sayid sigeyste Sayid siigeyste hated ogaden maxammas subeer he raided them more than 3 times . Ogaden tried to kill Sayid siigeyste many isaaq supported Sayid siigeyste in the early stage of the dervishes. And we're top leaders in the dervish movement. I don't think ogaden is worth anything hadal iyo w axaasi waxmataran lacag iyo siyasad iyo xukun baa wax tara what's the point of having land when you can't make laws for those lands

isaaq history is in relation to darood sub clans like cali iyo harun, faraax garaad and aba yonis.

its well know fact that ogadeen founded berbera and hargeisa.

sheik dahir guleed was the first somali to construct a Port and Port Tower in berbera
i have never see a document that conrains the name habar awal pre british colonialism

[Khalid Ali]

Iska waddo sheekadada adeer waxnafle maad sheegin

[TeeriReturns]

for example alot of emirs from harar, ifat and adal were absame, but for some reason they used to have a birth name and coronation name, like Sa'ad ad-Din,Mansur ad-Din and Sabr ad-Din, this was not the case with marexaan
in Monarchic system this is called Regnal name
saldandi absame has had more in common with european/levant systems


i think the next frontiers for snet history buffs is studying ogadeen history because we only scratch the survice of these clans
ogadeen occupies 2/3 of somali territory, you can see their footprint from wagooyi all the way to nairobi.
alot of somali religious leaders and poets used to come from absame and during the islamic age their role was second to none.

why do ogadeens have no interest in their history, 8 out of 10 greatest poets and gabays are from ogadeen they produced sayed abdallah hassan and siad barre yet people think ogadeens are like your regular somali clan which is a insult to say the least.

Ugaas, I am Oagden, we are aware of our hisotry, know our poets and potery, just becasue tyuo dont see ogaden boasting aboutn in cofee shops doesnt mean we dont know it,

heck my teenage cousins in narobi and kismayo can rap some nice poetry from oagdena dn idoors - idoors mostly like come second to ogaden in culture and hiidayo, and then maybe dhulbahante follw idoor with poets, other somalis dont seem to have anyone famous poets or famous sultanyal,

in terms of regal names, the hara, ifat and adali leadrship had many Absames, i have noticed strange things like the coronation names,

the queen of UK has similar factors, like two birthdays, two official names, reganal names,

somalis have been unfrtuntae, they have been dviided into several countrys and the they went to war, with each other, Oagden has done his best to get out of what the british did in 1958 after they placed ogadenia in ethiopia, we are the only ones who fought against the british and Ethiopians,

if your interested, there are entire books written by ogaden intellectuals about Ogaden/Absame history.

is it any wonder, all the most famous heroes with statues in xamar are Absame. even the female one like Hawo Taako

[TeeriReturns]

It was sheikh madar who advised the ogaden sign treaties with the Brits they refused and went to menelik he conquered them ever since they are his subject. Numbers are useless the gallas are 45 million and are under Abyssinian socially and mentally. Isaaq values life we cherish life that's why we care love our martyrs.

As for Sayid sigeyste Sayid siigeyste hated ogaden maxammas subeer he raided them more than 3 times . Ogaden tried to kill Sayid siigeyste many isaaq supported Sayid siigeyste in the early stage of the dervishes. And we're top leaders in the dervish movement. I don't think ogaden is worth anything hadal iyo w axaasi waxmataran lacag iyo siyasad iyo xukun baa wax tara what's the point of having land when you can't make laws for those lands

isaaq history is in relation to darood sub clans like cali iyo harun, faraax garaad and aba yonis.

its well know fact that ogadeen founded berbera and hargeisa.

sheik dahir guleed was the first somali to construct a Port and Port Tower in berbera
i have never see a document that conrains the name habar awal pre british colonialism

Typhoon, please tell us more about sheikh dahir, and his story,

ogaden did found hargeysa, in jubbaland near kismayo there is a town named hargeysa yarey, they decided to move out of somaliland and there was no water, greeland farm lands, , waa desert dry as hell. the isaaqs, dhulbhante and dirs multiplied,

also if ogaden/Absame was not the defensive wall against oromo and axmaar- we defended somalis like idoors,

idoors also live in hawd region, why dont they fight, khalid cali waa doqon two faced ah,

british handed ogaden to ethiopia in 1958- the soviets pressured the british and it was the height of the gaalo time when the mujslim world was colonised

ethiopia gets billions to this day and eriteria is lead by majorty chritians- these chrtiians had asstiance from many kuffaar nations with military aid, thwe west will not allow ethiopia to be attacked, america still gives billions in aid annually,

and on top we have somalis who in relaity will not support an ogadeniya as a country becasue they fear us and this is real politk and thus they help the werhiopians against us becvaseu they know what a country called ogadneiya will do to the likes of marehan, idoor, mj, hutus etc.

but is the big but, somalis will never have peace and their country will be dvidided as long as ogadneiya is corvved to stay with ethiopia, the day we become a countery is when somalia will stablise, natuarlly idoors dont wnat them, certain elimnates in somali dont want a stable somali, and certainyl not a free oagdneiya as it means ogaden will karbash and supoport a greater Somalia to become a reality if they become a countryn again.

som ethiopias, most somalis, the west, russia etc dont want a country called ogadneiya for various reasons mentioned,

but insha Allah we will get our country back.

[zidane88]

Waxaa ka mid ah xikmadihii ragii hore iney sheegeen raggu inuu 3 u kala baxo
1 Rag (honest, wise, brave, intelligent, tolerant, charitable) and many more good deeds
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