Somali unity and self-determination

[Adali]

How can we reconcile Somali unity and our quest for self-determination ?

I strongly believe every clan has the right to do business with the outside world without the sanction of the government in Mogadishu. As long as that business does not jeopardize Somalia's sovereignty, exploit our natural resources, harm Somali people or land.

I believe in empowering the Somali parliament and giving clans a fair representation there, where they can argue for their interest within the limits of Somali unity.

Foreign investments and aid should be monopolized by the State based in Mogadishu, but at the same time the state should reinvest that throughout the regions, just like the Kacaan did, building roads, factories, ports, and crucial infrastructure that today is the reason Somalis are managing to just about survive outside of Mogadishu.

I believe SL and PL are opposition to Somali unity, SL is outright against it whereas PL is very hypocritical, they say one thing but do another. The rest of Somalis within Somalia are pro-unity, but they are confused in terms of how their right to self-determination fits within that unity.

this is a very common problem we should be equipped to deal with it, when a clan goes rogue the Kacaan punished the leaders of the clan, be it prison sentence of death, I believe rogue elements from clans are a healthy indicator and should never be arrested, but studied and dealt with accordingly, the people or clans are never the enemy, the ideas they hold is the enemy, challenge them and empower opposition, confuse them and make their mission impossible.

[Ben Dover]

Boon marehan, let me be real with you for a moment. You are basic.

You are so obsessed with Mogadishu because you have nothing in your single-high-school dump of a region named Gedo. No education, no infrastructure, no businesses. Your future is bleak as a stand alone unit hence your Hawiye ceeb riding on Snet and fake nationalism.

You pretend to be a nationalist out of need. You see, Isaaq are fine on their own, Hawiye are fine on their own, hell, even dhabayaco are cutting deals and trying to build their desert... your beggar boon marehan on the other hand has nothing, hence the pretend patriotism. You are no different to our qurjiile subjects in Somaliland, who like boon marehan have nothing, so they play the nationalist card to eat.

Basic.

[Adali]

Boon marehan, let me be real with you for a moment. You are basic.

You are so obsessed with Mogadishu because you have nothing in your single-high-school dump of a region named Gedo. No education, no infrastructure, no businesses. Your future is bleak as a stand alone unit hence your Hawiye ceeb riding on Snet and fake nationalism.

You pretend to be a nationalist out of need. You see, Isaaq are fine on their own, Hawiye are fine on their own, hell, even dhabayaco are cutting deals and trying to build their desert... your beggar boon marehan on the other hand has nothing, hence the pretend patriotism. You are no different to our qurjiile subjects in Somaliland, who like boon marehan have nothing, so they play the nationalist card to eat.

Basic.

I am pro-unity but every clan should develop their towns and regions as much as they can as well, but politically yes I am pro-Mogadishu as the control center for all Somalis.

[Waachis]

Answer, Islam, not man made laws.

[Ben Dover]

I am pro-unity but every clan should develop their towns and regions as much as they can as well, but politically yes I am pro-Mogadishu as the control center for all Somalis.

How come you have not developed your region then?

Boon marehan is the equivalent to our qurjiile in Somaliland, completely dominated by a larger, wealthier, more powerful clan (Hawiye and Isaaq respectively), and using pretend nationalism/patriotism as means of putting food on the table, because you have nothing else

[original dervish]

Stop lying to the guy.....we spit in your faces daily and on your rag......does that sound like domination lol.

[Ben Dover]

OD, you are our subjects, we rule over you and your people. Its true that you hate us, but you are forced to dress your daughters, your young women, whenever our SNM boys come to visit your villages. Your girls wear the same rag you mention on their bodies and sing and dance for our SNM heroes' enjoyment.

That does sound like domination

[AwRastaale]

Boon marehan, let me be real with you for a moment. You are basic.

You are so obsessed with Mogadishu because you have nothing in your single-high-school dump of a region named Gedo. No education, no infrastructure, no businesses. Your future is bleak as a stand alone unit hence your Hawiye ceeb riding on Snet and fake nationalism.

You pretend to be a nationalist out of need. You see, Isaaq are fine on their own, Hawiye are fine on their own, hell, even dhabayaco are cutting deals and trying to build their desert... your beggar boon marehan on the other hand has nothing, hence the pretend patriotism. You are no different to our qurjiile subjects in Somaliland, who like boon marehan have nothing, so they play the nationalist card to eat.

Basic.

100%

[Futurist]

Somali unity dont exist

Smokescreen for some groups to grab power

[Adali]

Somali unity dont exist

Smokescreen for some groups to grab power

False, Somali unity has existed throughout history and still exist to this day, just like some self serving morons have always tried to divide us throughout history, we always managed to get back together and protect our interest.

The situation in Beledxawo was a good case of that, the amount of Somalis who came to the aid of Rer Beledxawo was overwhelming, the government reacted swiftly, and the border fence was suspended within days.

[dhusomacaan]

How can we reconcile Somali unity and our quest for self-determination ?

I strongly believe every clan has the right to do business with the outside world without the sanction of the government in Mogadishu. As long as that business does not jeopardize Somalia's sovereignty, exploit our natural resources, harm Somali people or land.

I believe in empowering the Somali parliament and giving clans a fair representation there, where they can argue for their interest within the limits of Somali unity.

Foreign investments and aid should be monopolized by the State based in Mogadishu, but at the same time the state should reinvest that throughout the regions, just like the Kacaan did, building roads, factories, ports, and crucial infrastructure that today is the reason Somalis are managing to just about survive outside of Mogadishu.

I believe SL and PL are opposition to Somali unity, SL is outright against it whereas PL is very hypocritical, they say one thing but do another. The rest of Somalis within Somalia are pro-unity, but they are confused in terms of how their right to self-determination fits within that unity.

this is a very common problem we should be equipped to deal with it, when a clan goes rogue the Kacaan punished the leaders of the clan, be it prison sentence of death, I believe rogue elements from clans are a healthy indicator and should never be arrested, but studied and dealt with accordingly, the people or clans are never the enemy, the ideas they hold is the enemy, challenge them and empower opposition, confuse them and make their mission impossible.

After what gaas did fuck it Somalia is a fail. It's atleast 5 countries.

[theologain]

Somali unity works like this when foregin intervention happen we gather and fight. When that us over we fight each other. That is called reality somali unity.

[Khalid Ali]

There is no such thing as somali unity it's fake based on lies and horse shit you can't even unite your goita clan and kab iyo xaar. .djbouti and Somaliland will never unite with dirty south and darood bacteria