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gurey25 wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 4:52 pm The reason the deal happened in the first place was because the Europeans were losing so much business that they grew a spine for the first time and threatened to act independently so the US and Isreal folded.
Nobody expected the US to honour the deal, the main purpose was to remove UN sanctions and insure that when the US and Isreal renege in future that they will not have any semblance of legality in international law.
Iran also fully expected the Europeans to be bullied and brought back into line by their US master in the future so was not expecting investment and trade from them,
they used the brief time they had to repatriate all the "frozen" money held in western accounts.

The last Iranian sanctions were one of the failings of Putin.
Back then he did not believe the west could be so crazy so brazen to piss on international law, he was still in love with the west back then.
Then Georgia in 2008 hit hit him hard, but he still thought things could be dealt with diplomatically,
he still believed the west was sane.
Then Libya happened that was the wake up call and he promised that another Libya will not happen while he is alive.
Then MAidan coup happened in Ukraine he dropped the ball there too, he genuinely believed that the west would not do a coup against a democratically elected leader using neo-nazi elements.

but he redeemed himslef by taking back Crimea, thus checkmating all the actions of the west.

The results were clear, hysterical anger and frustration, he does it again a year later in Syria and we can tune into western mainstream TV, from CNN, MSNBC, BBC, DW, etc the daily screaming , rage , frustration and utter madness..
I have never been more entertained in my life, whenever i am bored i tune into CNN, hilarious..

Putin has finally realized that the west is insane and he is beginning to hold them in utter contempt.
Ironically from the translated writings of XI xinping he has always considered the west inferior and basically pieces of shit beneath his shoes, but he is all smile, and no one has a clue.
This is the general feeling of the chinese communist party..
Xi xinping must have been telling putin, i told you so !! so many times.

When will the west understand that Putin loves them, and always wanted peace and understanding and partnership...
The people around him want to fight even more than the US.

The next Russian president will not take insolent behavior and when pushed nukes will fly and we will all die..

original dervish wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 5:03 pm Your interpretation of past events is correct......but your analysis of the Russians is wrong.
Russia is a society that is dominated by oligarchs, they have nothing in common with ordinary Russians and treat them with contempt.
Putin has shackled the oligarchs not eliminated them.
As soon as Putin is gone Russia and it's resources will be turned over to western corporations.

gurey25 wrote: Fri May 18, 2018 1:00 pm Fah

As I said earlier I don't expect anything to happen.
All this media hype is just Netanyahu unleashing his frustration through captive mainstream Western media.
The window for an isreali attack on Iran is closing and within 2 to 3 years isreal will not be able to bomb Beirut or anywhere else terrorising civilians without a proportion response.

Every single isreali city is in range of hezbollah missiles and they have been getting more accurate and arrow or iron dome will not put a dent in the number of hits.

Soon isreal will be forced to shut the fuck up and behave itself like a normal country.

The idea of isrealis becoming a normal country with restraints is unthinkable to them hence all the madness and bitching.

Khalid Ali wrote: Sat May 19, 2018 1:04 am Trump is a genius I never thought he would pull out of the Iran deal he is really an American nationalist his national security adviser wants to invade Iran. Israel and the Saudis and Emirates all have a deal to kill Iran. Because the khaleeji Arabs have lost in Yemen they have lost in Lebanon muqtadr so sadr won in Iraq.

Hahahaha I am laughing on the dirac wearing Arab faggots long live the Islamic republic of Iran grand ayatollah ali sistani imam Ali kheimeni . Hassan ruxaani. The thing is the hardliners of Iran what will they do now