World Cup 2018 & 23 & Me

[Jabuutawi]

23 & Me is pairing World Cup qualifiers with their clients to see if any part of one's DNA is related to the teams that made to the World Cup.

My results:
Egypt, Morocco and Saudi Arabia:


I am rooting for none.

[AwRastaale]

Ramadan Mubarak eebow.

I think Dir is investing in the World Cup in order to collect few football players for the family. Dir has became the biggest DNA ancestry shoppers.

I hear Amazon wants to acquire their platform.

On more serious note the whole Somali tribal stories make no sense.

If Issa and the rest of Dir are truly “indigenous” people, then why does Issa and Samaroon just to name few have “Sheikh tombs” in Sanaag like supposedly “foreign Arab Sheikhs” like Isaaq?

Makes no sense.

It’s like saying upon arrival the Anglo-Saxons buried Christopher Columbus under a huge religious tomb and on the same day the Red Indians also buried their founder on this land next to Columbus.

Think about it for a minute.

How come they are all founded in the same era and all so called foreign Sheikhs landed also same time and found enough wondering about indigenous women to bang?

All flawed BS.

[Jabuutawi]

Soon (Ramadan) Wanagsan to you too and all Muslims around the globe.

Forget for a moment these specific 'cats' ever existed, imagine soon to be called Faraxs coming off the boat and seeing them indigenous chicks strutting their stuff at the beach. Who can resist a Barkhado with a booty , but I digress.

The only time I watch soccer is during the World Cup. Many powerhouses are missing this time around, Italy, Netherlands, if I am not mistaken. I do not like how Germany plays ball - boring, but the flair of Brazil ball control is one I look forward to.

Yo, aint nobody shopping for somebody. Nasab don't shop, they get shopped by others.

[zumaale]

Ramadan Mubarak eebow.

I think Dir is investing in the World Cup in order to collect few football players for the family. Dir has became the biggest DNA ancestry shoppers.

I hear Amazon wants to acquire their platform.

On more serious note the whole Somali tribal stories make no sense.

If Issa and the rest of Dir are truly “indigenous” people, then why does Issa and Samaroon just to name few have “Sheikh tombs” in Sanaag like supposedly “foreign Arab Sheikhs” like Isaaq?

Makes no sense.

It’s like saying upon arrival the Anglo-Saxons buried Christopher Columbus under a huge religious tomb and on the same day the Red Indians also buried their founder on this land next to Columbus.

Think about it for a minute.

How come they are all founded in the same era and all so called foreign Sheikhs landed also same time and found enough wondering about indigenous women to bang?

All flawed BS.

If you are going to preach about all lineages being Bullshit, then why were you so adamant to prove Garxajis and Habar Awal individuals that have different y-dna are Brothers by idiotically misinterpreting a National Geographic article?




https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=390873


Just because science doesn't support your clan myth does mean that the same applies to other Somali subclans.

Lets keep it real Nigga, some of your people are the Biggest Coons when it comes to Shopping for a lineage. You cannot put Ciise and Samaroon in the same basket as your clan. Some of your clan elders have gone as far as approaching Arabs in the Gulf claiming that they are lost Ahlul Bayt. Furthermore, some still cling on the Bani Hashim myth even after taking a y-dna test and discovering that they have a distinct Horn of African ancestry. The sad thing is these same people will simultaneously claim to be Somali whilst doing so, bringing shame upon the rest of us Somalis. The day I gave up was was when I came across a ShiaChat thread in which one of your fellow clansmen is spreading the Bani Hashim BS to random Twelver Shias.

These deluded Coons can claim what they want, just leave the Somali name to us indisputably Somali clans.



http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235 ... ever-knew/

[barbarossa]

^ Then according 23 & Me, you have 7% Anglo-Saxon and 10% Iberian DNA.

[Jabuutawi]

Hear Ye, Hear Ye! Afhayeenka Dir has spoken and it shall be written in history that his excellency, Dr. Zumaale, has opened 2018 Coonfest in Hargesa with the first salvo of coonbusters http://hw-img.datpiff.com/m8e6d8b9/Vari ... -large.jpg

I want either England or Spain to win this year. They are my favourite football teams.

Huuno, seems like you have a lot of favorites and been to many places. What do you do for a living if I may ask?

[theyuusuf143]

isaaqu, yuhuud, banihashim, bantu, amxaaro, oromo, shiico, sunni, hindi iyo budhists intaba way leeyihin. intaba anaa indhahayga ku arkay. hadana waa wada isaaq . kulligood waxay ka simanyihin in Somaliland barakaysan tahay. kkkkkk

[Nubis]

Hear Ye, Hear Ye! Afhayeenka Dir has spoken and it shall be written in history that his excellency, Dr. Zumaale, has opened 2018 Coonfest in Hargesa with the first salvo of coonbusters http://hw-img.datpiff.com/m8e6d8b9/Vari ... -large.jpg

I want either England or Spain to win this year. They are my favourite football teams.

Huuno, seems like you have a lot of favorites and been to many places. What do you do for a living if I may ask?

Thanks darling. I work as hostess , and clothing store. Xoxo

[AwRastaale]

Dir ancestral shoppers cannot answer the question. If Dir minority is different and truly indigenous as they like to claim, why do they have falsehood tombs of their said 'fathers' next to Sheikh Isaaq and Darod tombs?

It's clear they are no different and no Somali has it right.

The only true answer and true ancestry is the Cushitic chapter.

How can one be indigenous yet his father live same period as 'foreigner arrivers'?

Dir shopped everyone and still they are the most minority. Even Midgaan out number them now days especially people like Zumaale who is from unknown minority. What was it again? Surre? Where is their region? I doubt they have any.

[KowJow]

@Zumaale
@Jabuutawi

Speaking of Dir and DNA, just recently a Samaroon brother posted his results in the FTDNA T project. He took the 111 Y-STR test and is almost a perfect match with a Habar Yoonis dude who also tested 111 STRs.

According to Haplogroup T connoisseur Esteban who is in possession of Ciise Y-STR markers; HG-T Samaroons, Habar Yoonis and Habar Jeclos are more closer to each other and probably share a more recent ancestor with each other than they do with the Ciise.

Crazy right?! who would have thought Samaroons were closer to Isaaqs than Ciise?

[zumaale]

Dir ancestral shoppers cannot answer the question. If Dir minority is different and truly indigenous as they like to claim, why do they have falsehood tombs of their said 'fathers' next to Sheikh Isaaq and Darod tombs?

It's clear they are no different and no Somali has it right.

The only true answer and true ancestry is the Cushitic chapter.

How can one be indigenous yet his father live same period as 'foreigner arrivers'?

Dir shopped everyone and still they are the most minority. Even Midgaan out number them now days especially people like Zumaale who is from unknown minority. What was it again? Surre? Where is their region? I doubt they have any.

Have I triggered you whilst fasting that you spouted irrelevant gibberish without even having the guts to quote me?

Sxb, I'll resume your regular Karbash after Ramadan, let us be civilised until then.

Ramadan Kareem

@Zumaale
@Jabuutawi

Speaking of Dir and DNA, just recently a Samaroon brother posted his results in the FTDNA T project. He took the 111 Y-STR test and is almost a perfect match with a Habar Yoonis dude who also tested 111 STRs.

According to Haplogroup T connoisseur Esteban who is in possession of Ciise Y-STR markers; HG-T Samaroons, Habar Yoonis and Habar Jeclos are more closer to each other and probably share a more recent ancestor with each other than they do with the Ciise.

Crazy right?! who would have thought Samaroons were closer to Isaaqs than Ciise?

Not really surprising bro. I already mentioned that the STR's of some subclans appear closer to each other. Check one of my replies to Amun in the Sspot JamacatulDNA Y16897 thread. Furthermore, in the FTDNA T page, you can also observe that the HY's themselves are not a perfect match as we are talking about lineages that are hundreds of years old.



Thus, one should not really place too much emphasis on STR's tests alone when determining an exact TMRCA of males who descend from a historical founder. They are good at establishing if two males are closely related, but y-full/big-y tests are needed to obtain SNP's that identify the TMRCA of particular subclan lineages.

That being said, the Samaroon FTDNA test result only further confirms the fact that the Isaaq, Ciise and Samaroon HG-T individuals who have been tested are indeed the result of a founder effect. Another nail in the coffin for the Bani Hashemites.

[KowJow]

Of course one can't reach definitive conclusions with STRs, and they're useless when trying to find an exact MRCA. But you can use them to predict how relatively close individual lineages are. Esteban seems very confident that the Samaroon and Isaaq are more close to each other due to the Ciise STRs being a bit differentiated, mind you he has multiple Ciise samples that are more than 12 markers. I don't think we should underestimate Esteban, he has been doing this for at least a decade, hes probably on to something and shouldn't be dismissed that easily. And c'mon sxb it would be surprising lol especially when you look at it from a clan and geographic perspective.

Another nail in the coffin for the Bani Hashemites.

Never stood a chance against logic and science. RIP, this ones for the homies, gone but never forgotten.

[zumaale]

Of course one can't reach definitive conclusions with STRs, and they're useless when trying to find an exact MRCA. But you can use them to predict how relatively close individual lineages are. Esteban seems very confident that the Samaroon and Isaaq are more close to each other due to the Ciise STRs being a bit differentiated, mind you he has multiple Ciise samples that are more than 12 markers. I don't think we should underestimate Esteban, he has been doing this for at least a decade, hes probably on to something and shouldn't be dismissed that easily. And c'mon sxb it would be surprising lol especially when you look at it from a clan and geographic perspective.

KowJow, I have seen your Facebook exchanges with him, BenAdam etc. in regard to this matter. Y'all are too quick in making generalisations.

For instance, ask him if any of the Ciise samples he is referring to are the ones in Iacovacci? If they are, how certain is he that they are all Ciise as the paper did not distinguish between Ciise and Samaroon? How many Ciise 111 samples did he use in the TMRCA calculator? How many Samaroon STR samples has he had access to?

Secondly, he is not familiar with Somali folklore/history and assumes that Ciise STR's will automatically be closer to Samaroon STR's because they are 'closer' to each other than Isaaq. Come on man, none of these clans have considered one ancestrally closer than the other in times gone by. Lets keep it real Sxb.

Lastly, you do not need a y-full test to confirm that the Al-Faraj are not in anyway closer to Samaroon and Isaaq than the Ciise is to them. Entertaining that idea is, IMO, stupidity. The fact that all three clans are found in roughly the same geographical area and belong to the same ethnic group is a clue in itself. Moreover, the Ciise and Samaroon have historically lived in Eastern Waqooyi hence clan boundaries have changed over time.

There is a reason why genetic genealogists avoid reaching definitive conclusions when dealing with STR's. All will be known once a few more of us cough up the necessary P's for y-full tests.

[Jabuutawi]

Can someone point out to me the Esteban Ciise STR sample? If true, then truly we (Ciise) are unique in the Horn when it comes to MCRA among T possessors.

[AwRastaale]

Surre minority

No need for Wikipedia essays.

Just answer the q if Issa is different and his story is an indigenous one then why tomb like the “foreign Sheikhs”?

Indigenous people pre-date Islam.


Another falsehood story busted and local shoppers have no answers.