Does Somalia have a foreign policy objective?

[Talo alle udaa]

I ask this sincerely after a number of events have taken place which make you question whether the occasion is too big for some at the top.


This is a question that needs serious thought.

I have concluded the country either does not have credible experts advising the current administration or the pamper and the occasion is too big for them such that the pictures and story lines is an achievement in it of itself and nothing beyond the event itself is planned for.


It appears everything that has so far happened between Ethiopia/Eritrea and Somalia has been one way or another tied to the UAE.

To make matters worse, at this current juncture, by resuming bilateral relations with Eritrea Somalia is actively helping the UAE punish Djbouti.

[UlteriorMotive]

Nope. Does Somalia have an economic policy? A security policy? etc

You would need an actual civil service churning out policies...think thanks producing reports...University professors with that expertise being consulted and actual courses on (Insert) Studies. You would need the best and brightest graduates being recruited based on merit and actually having job security so that you can have continuity and institutional memory.

Instead Somalia is a place where every election a new FM is named, they go on a few international excursions before being unceremoniously removed and all the staff they hired sacked by the new guy in charge. The situation is dire friend

PS: How can you have a cohesive foreign policy when regional states are ready to contradict you when they feel like it? Also, why does PL have a "Foreign Minister"

I think things will only improve in this regard if there is a govt with real control over the territory it professes to govern.

[TheLoFather]

I ask this sincerely after a number of events have taken place which make you question whether the occasion is too big for some at the top.


This is a question that needs serious thought.

I have concluded the country either does not have credible experts advising the current administration or the pamper and the occasion is too big for them such that the pictures and story lines is an achievement in it of itself and nothing beyond the event itself is planned for.


It appears everything that has so far happened between Ethiopia/Eritrea and Somalia has been one way or another tied to the UAE.

To make matters worse, at this current juncture, by resuming bilateral relations with Eritrea Somalia is actively helping the UAE punish Djbouti.

How can it?!!!!!....When it DOESN'T even have any serious Politicians especially ones that understand how the world works i.e. THE Real World and its Economics . We have a punch of individuals with many years of schooling (degrees etc...) and even some with very little education - who have only learnt how to follow instructions and what ever else that life experiences may have taught them has only made them self-
absorbing delusionals filled with greed and envy and lacking SELF CRITIQUE and SELF reflection.


P.s. a headless chicken has more policy objectives than a Somali Politicians.

[Advo]

We will never really have a foriegn policy that exclusively serves our interest aslong as we don’t control every aspect of the country. The most we can do is make the best out of any given situation until we can stand on our own.

[Murax]

As much foreign policy as a failed state for over 30 years could have. As much as a Admin that will be undermined the second they make a proclaiment by so called regional states. Somalisa are too much. They don’t understand baby steps. Not involving in the Gulf dispute was a principled stand. This Gov easily could have accepted the boorso 50 million cash like other admins would have. With the East Africa thing instead of being a toy in the hands of Eritra/Ethiopia we should welcome their peace maybe they’ll leave us alone now.

[original dervish]

As long as Somalia is weak and vulnerable we will never be "left alone" by the neighbouring states and regional powers.
The number one foreign policy objective should be to get the Americans more involved in the security situation.
Secondly, as pressure increases on Al Shabaab peace overtures must be made to its more moderate members.

[Murax]

As long as Somalia is weak and vulnerable we will never be "left alone" by the neighbouring states and regional powers.
The number one foreign policy objective should be to get the Americans more involved in the security situation.
Secondly, as pressure increases on Al Shabaab peace overtures must be made to its more moderate members.

There was a lot of research done into why America never embraced and took Somalia seriously as an ally. Reason was simple because Somalis by nature go to the highest bidder and don’t have one voice therefore American thinktanks deemed it a waste of time. Somalis go after the boorso of cash literally and our so called politicians don’t really believe in a qadiyad of Somalia.

[original dervish]

I think its time for Somalia to leverage its offshore oil resources.
The Americans have long coveted Somalia's marine resources.
American oil companies are a state within a state.....they literally got the US to go to war for Iraqi oil.

I have no doubt that if Somalia signed over its oil for thirty years you'd see a different kind of political/security engagement from the US.

[Murax]

I think its time for Somalia to leverage its offshore oil resources.
The Americans have long coveted Somalia's marine resources.
American oil companies are a state within a state.....they literally got the US to go to war for Iraqi oil.

I have no doubt that if Somalia signed over its oil for thirty years you'd see a different kind of political/security engagement from the US.

Good point. I think this is why the neutrality stance Somalia took was looked at positively by the West even if they have issues with Turkey, Qatar. It showed for once a Somali Gov that could at least stick to an ally on principle and not just do the usual and follow whoever paid them last.

[original dervish]

There is only a handful of countries that haven't accepted American hegemony.....all of them besieged and sanctioned.
Farmaajo demonstrated his shrewd political skills by denouncing UAE interference.

The American empire is an economic empire.......they will only intervene if its in there interest.
somali- lands chief resource is 3 million khaat addicts....that's why nobody gives a shit about it.
Somalia is different.....we must use the oil to entice the Americans back.

[Murax]

There is only a handful of countries that haven't accepted American hegemony.....all of them besieged and sanctioned.
Farmaajo demonstrated his shrewd political skills by denouncing UAE interference.

The American empire is an economic empire.......they will only intervene if its in there interest.
somali- lands chief resource is 3 million khaat addicts....that's why nobody gives a shit about it.
Somalia is different.....we must use the oil to entice the Americans back.

Exactly Inadeer, if only we stopped chasing the small time allies!

[Sauron]

Instead of solving shit themselves they're advocating for the USA to come solve their problems, the bright mind of Zoomalis in display right here.

[original dervish]

We support American leadership........not shitty small time wannabe powers.

[dalalos101]

Yes our foreign policy has improved alot in the past 2 years actually, do your research.

1. kicked out DPworld aggressive acquisition of Somali port against all the backstabbing from regional states and SL.
2. took neutral stance in foreign matters that do not concern us.
3. arranged to cancel all our debt and the interest that has been added onto it for the past 30 years.
4. halted the incursion of Kenya into Beledxaawo through diplomacy.
5. and now we are building on relations with Eritrea a regional partner

in terms of foreign policy this is perhaps some key points I can think on the top of my head, I am very pleased with the ability of this administration to have strength in both foreign and national affairs.

if anything the regional clan states are pro-DP which means they are the ones hurting both Somalia and Jabuuti, as far as Farmaajo visiting Eritrea, what conspiracy theorist say means nothing, Farmaajo has track record of being anti DPworld. Not for Jaabuti sake but for Somalia lol, Farmaajo is not president of Jabuuti its that fat dictator who is.