Iilay survives military coup

[Talo alle udaa]

Iilay, now emboldened by the fact his loyal militia drove the federal troops out of Jigjiga

Now they reportedly are positioning themselves on top of famous mountain ridge surrounding the city

we will see where this ends.

Today for the first time the Ethiopian government has no direct rule over the the somali region apart from few isolated military camps which themselves could be in trouble.

We will see where the cards fall

[Waachis]

lol. it's far from over dude. it'll continue, the army will call in reinforcements and engage abdi even more.
i wish the pm's team would've put more thought, and strategy into this move, but it's okay, we all learn from mistakes, hopefully!

the army is outside of jigjiga and its surrounding areas. it's just getting started!!

[ramzy2277]

that will show u the difference between the faqash regime who destroyed what was called somalia and any reasonable government

the same scenario happened when SNM captured hargeysa and burco and killed faqash officers,

how did the coward afweyen responded,he air bombarded hargeysa ,placed anti aircraft and anti tants machine gun on top of the hill and bombard the city

i pray the Ethiopians do the same to the ogaden,

ameeeeeen

[Talo alle udaa]

lol. it's far from over dude. it'll continue, the army will call in reinforcements and engage abdi even more.
i wish the pm's team would've put more thought, and strategy into this move, but it's okay, we all learn from mistakes, hopefully!

the army is outside of jigjiga and its surrounding areas. it's just getting started!!

The locals dont see this army as theirs. In fact before they were routed from the city, it was the locals on the very sight of Ethiopian troops begin pelting them with stones.

The Somalis have to decide between an Oromo PM who is a centrist, proclaiming they will only get 5% of oil revenue, and madmen whose being ruling over them over the past decade with an Iron grip. The difference is, if the system Iilay has built is completely dismantled, the Somalis have no leverage to which negotiate whatever settlement is reached and will be at the mercy of the Oromo led Ethiopia.

I have concluded a direct Federal control of the somali region will be a disaster for any talk of autonomy or push back against further land grab by the Oromo. In this sense, at this time, until another peaceful way is found, All Somalis should oppose direct Ethiopian Federal take over.

[Waachis]

lol. it's far from over dude. it'll continue, the army will call in reinforcements and engage abdi even more.
i wish the pm's team would've put more thought, and strategy into this move, but it's okay, we all learn from mistakes, hopefully!

the army is outside of jigjiga and its surrounding areas. it's just getting started!!

The locals dont see this army as theirs. In fact before they were routed from the city, it was the locals on the very sight of Ethiopian troops begin pelting them with stones.

The Somalis have to decide between an Oromo PM who is a centrist, proclaiming they will only get 5% of oil revenue, and madmen whose being ruling over them over the past decade with an Iron grip. The difference is, if the system Iilay has built is completely dismantled, the Somalis have no leverage to which negotiate whatever settlement is reached and will be at the mercy of the Oromo led Ethiopia.

I have concluded a direct Federal control of the somali region will be a disaster for any talk of autonomy or push back against further land grab by the Oromo. In this sense, at this time, until another peaceful way is found, All Somalis should oppose direct Ethiopian Federal take over.

They do not have to-the fact is abdi provoked this response, and thus, will bear the burden of most of the consequences that follow-however wrong and tragic they may, indeed, be.

As far as the 2nd part goes-Abiy is not a centrist, he's a supporter of federalism, but when he has somali elders and youths asking him, almost daily, about why he isn't doing anything about the butcher of jigjiga--what do you expect him to do? He is part of the problem, if he doesn't act. Not to mention the recent attempt to massacre 200 somali elders in dire dawa by abdi illey's thugs.

As far as the oil share goes-I am 100 percent with the somalis on that one. No way in hell is 5 percent a fair share, and if he doesn't change it to be fair, then somalis should resist, and I am morally on their side. That is wrong and no way should somalis tolerate it. PM Abiy must be crazy or influenced heavily by some external forces. No oil should be dug until an equitable sharing agreement is reached.
As far as encouraging civilians to fight africa's 2nd or 3rd biggest/strongest army, that's on you sir. If you feel that's right, you have the right to feel that way, but also keep in mind what that entails.

[Talo alle udaa]

lol. it's far from over dude. it'll continue, the army will call in reinforcements and engage abdi even more.
i wish the pm's team would've put more thought, and strategy into this move, but it's okay, we all learn from mistakes, hopefully!

the army is outside of jigjiga and its surrounding areas. it's just getting started!!

The locals dont see this army as theirs. In fact before they were routed from the city, it was the locals on the very sight of Ethiopian troops begin pelting them with stones.

The Somalis have to decide between an Oromo PM who is a centrist, proclaiming they will only get 5% of oil revenue, and madmen whose being ruling over them over the past decade with an Iron grip. The difference is, if the system Iilay has built is completely dismantled, the Somalis have no leverage to which negotiate whatever settlement is reached and will be at the mercy of the Oromo led Ethiopia.

I have concluded a direct Federal control of the somali region will be a disaster for any talk of autonomy or push back against further land grab by the Oromo. In this sense, at this time, until another peaceful way is found, All Somalis should oppose direct Ethiopian Federal take over.

They do not have to-the fact is abdi provoked this response, and thus, will bear the burden of most of the consequences that follow-however wrong and tragic they may, indeed, be.

As far as the 2nd part goes-Abiy is not a centrist, he's a supporter of federalism, but when he has somali elders and youths asking him, almost daily, about why he isn't doing anything about the butcher of jigjiga--what do you expect him to do? He is part of the problem, if he doesn't act. Not to mention the recent attempt to massacre 200 somali elders in dire dawa by abdi illey's thugs.

As far as the oil share goes-I am 100 percent with the somalis on that one. No way in hell is 5 percent a fair share, and if he doesn't change it to be fair, then somalis should resist, and I am morally on their side. That is wrong and no way should somalis tolerate it. PM Abiy must be crazy or influenced heavily by some external forces. No oil should be dug until an equitable sharing agreement is reached.
As far as encouraging civilians to fight africa's 2nd or 3rd biggest/strongest army, that's on you sir. If you feel that's right, you have the right to feel that way, but also keep in mind what that entails.

We do not share the same enthusiasm you have for Abiye or Ethiopia. In 1994, a similar event happened, albeit peacefully when the TPLF came to power with many promises. The people supported them. However, when it came to the issue of succession they created the Liyu police and Iilay and the rest is history

Today we are at another cross road. Those folks in Dirdhaba have no real political objective beyond removing Iilay from power. Some have tribal based grievances. They have no real objectives beyond individual freedom, etc.

For us to assume the Oromo PM will honer any of our wishes or look out for our interest is naive, to pledge our allegiance to him will be repeating the same mistake as '94. As bad as Iilay was at least we know what he is and stands for.

As for the sweet talking Oromo PM, the 5% talk was a wake up call. He has been behaving similar to Meles making pronouncements and edicts. He has already replaced federal region presidents without much local input.

If supporting your PM means another puppet this time whose strings are pulled by an Oromo led Ethiopia, we have already seen that film.

[grandpakhalif]

Hahahha if you think PM Abby Axmed will lose to ragtag militia think again. He is exhausting all options and will use the bullet to silence Liyu Boolis thugs. Remember it was Itoobiya who fed and clothed and armed them and pays their salary.


I expect Abdi Iley to be apprehended very soon.

[PHT]

lol. it's far from over dude. it'll continue, the army will call in reinforcements and engage abdi even more.
i wish the pm's team would've put more thought, and strategy into this move, but it's okay, we all learn from mistakes, hopefully!

the army is outside of jigjiga and its surrounding areas. it's just getting started!!

TPLF was the only strong faction in the ethiopian army and they are not involved in this. Do you think a bunch of illeterate oromos and soft amharas can face a united Ogaden?

We will teach you oromos a lesson you won't forget regardless of whether they are muslim or christian.

[Waachis]

The locals dont see this army as theirs. In fact before they were routed from the city, it was the locals on the very sight of Ethiopian troops begin pelting them with stones.

The Somalis have to decide between an Oromo PM who is a centrist, proclaiming they will only get 5% of oil revenue, and madmen whose being ruling over them over the past decade with an Iron grip. The difference is, if the system Iilay has built is completely dismantled, the Somalis have no leverage to which negotiate whatever settlement is reached and will be at the mercy of the Oromo led Ethiopia.

I have concluded a direct Federal control of the somali region will be a disaster for any talk of autonomy or push back against further land grab by the Oromo. In this sense, at this time, until another peaceful way is found, All Somalis should oppose direct Ethiopian Federal take over.

They do not have to-the fact is abdi provoked this response, and thus, will bear the burden of most of the consequences that follow-however wrong and tragic they may, indeed, be.

As far as the 2nd part goes-Abiy is not a centrist, he's a supporter of federalism, but when he has somali elders and youths asking him, almost daily, about why he isn't doing anything about the butcher of jigjiga--what do you expect him to do? He is part of the problem, if he doesn't act. Not to mention the recent attempt to massacre 200 somali elders in dire dawa by abdi illey's thugs.

As far as the oil share goes-I am 100 percent with the somalis on that one. No way in hell is 5 percent a fair share, and if he doesn't change it to be fair, then somalis should resist, and I am morally on their side. That is wrong and no way should somalis tolerate it. PM Abiy must be crazy or influenced heavily by some external forces. No oil should be dug until an equitable sharing agreement is reached.
As far as encouraging civilians to fight africa's 2nd or 3rd biggest/strongest army, that's on you sir. If you feel that's right, you have the right to feel that way, but also keep in mind what that entails.

We do not share the same enthusiasm you have for Abiye or Ethiopia. In 1994, a similar event happened, albeit peacefully when the TPLF came to power with many promises. The people supported them. However, when it came to the issue of succession they created the Liyu police and Iilay and the rest is history

Today we are at another cross road. Those folks in Dirdhaba have no real political objective beyond removing Iilay from power. Some have tribal based grievances. They have no real objectives beyond individual freedom, etc.

For us to assume the Oromo PM will honer any of our wishes or look out for our interest is naive, to pledge our allegiance to him will be repeating the same mistake as '94. As bad as Iilay was at least we know what he is and stands for.

As for the sweet talking Oromo PM, the 5% talk was a wake up call. He has been behaving similar to Meles making pronouncements and edicts. He has already replaced federal region presidents without much local input.

If supporting your PM means another puppet this time whose strings are pulled by an Oromo led Ethiopia, we have already seen that film.

I can agree with most, if not all, of what you said-however, Illey was created to destroy the ONLF and protect the borders from al shabab, and then later, kill the oromos & attempt to suppress their legitimate struggle. He never had legitimacy beyond the backing of TPLF.
Also, as long as the somali state remains within Ethiopia, whoever is in power in addis ababa, has the duty to care for its internal issues, and even to go as far as intervening in situations like these-when the militias go wild and begin burning stores, churches, killing random civilians who aren't somalis, and so on.
Not to mention the fact that the civilians themselves were in an uproar when there was no federal response to the deplorable human rights situation in that area.
Not to also mention that TPLF generals are officially leading Liyyu now, and Abdi Illey has allegedly been captured.
SO now, it's more clear who is fighting who-it's oromos, amharas, gurages, afars, and other ethiopians minus tigrayans VS Liyyu and tplf.
we shall see who wins in the end. after all, this is africa, where might is right.

[bashe19]

PM. Apey makes big mistake, these f-king OROROS i dont like walahi they are basterds , look in while Ethiopia Oromos are fucosing Somalis only. Now i AM supporter of Ilay walahi. Fuck Oromo Fuck Abey bastard

[original dervish]

The Somali's were done the minute Ethiopia and Eritrea made peace.
I expect 2-3 Ethiopian divisions to roll into the Somali region imminently.
A long dark night is about to descend upon the people of Somali Galbeed.

[Salaxbaashe]

The Somali's were done the minute Ethiopia and Eritrea made peace.
I expect 2-3 Ethiopian divisions to roll into the Somali region imminently.
A long dark night is about to descend upon the people of Somali Galbeed.

Yhh and rightfully so. Abdi illey needs to step down by choice or by force anyone supporting him will be mowed down. He has no moral right or use to us he’s simply protecting his chair and daroods but mostly Ogaden see him as an extension of their tribe they don’t want anyone else to come to power that’s their main issue. Otherwise why would one stooge being removed and replaced with another bother them.

[gobdoon]

Walah somali wa u dhamatay , Eritreyanki oo somalida ka yar xata waxay raban ba lo sameyey lkn somali divide and rule far kaliya fool ma dhaqdo , imisa somali ba la dilay inti PM cusub yimi , cabdi iley ban rideyna wa been , somalidu ha modowdo oo ina iley iyo mamulkiisa ha tagerrto oo dadka iyo dhulka ha la difaco , ina iley xili kale ha laga wada hadlo ? Hada danta guud ha la difaco

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

Guul Somali

Haa Dhacaan Oromo & Ethiopia.

[original dervish]

A general mobilisation of all fighting age men must be implemented.
In a few weeks Ethiopian federal troops will invade en masse.
The line must be defended at all costs.