Can President Cagjar inspire Somalis and build a unity Government?

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Can President Cagjar inspire Somalis and build a unity Government?

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It's crucial Cagjar wins over all Somalis and addresses all their grievance, concerns and listens to their advice. If he can do that I believe he will make history and build solid foundations for Somalis in that part of the Peninsula. Whatever he does today could make or break future Somali generations and how we control that region and not allow the Galla and their Habesha masters take advantage of us.

For that to happen Cagjar needs to ask every community; what can we fix? What do you need us to do?

He needs to set up various committees and agencies including those that deal directly with the people who rise issues, concerns as well as ideas. Then other groups/agencies should study and see if for example certain ideas are feasible and actually practical and forward thinking.

The second thing that he needs to pursue is transferring all private industry in the hands of Somalis and that means supporting a free market and Somalis will do the rest themselves. The Galla and Habesha could never compete with Somali business. What kept them alive was the protectionism and so called "contraband" by the TPLF.

No fadhi ku dirir.

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Cagjar came in the wrong time.The Somali region needs a shrewd,khain mofo like Abye to survive in that environment.
Notice how Amharas were rioting in Jigjiga and Cagjar couldnt do shit as he is not in control.Imagine the EDF sided with amharas even though Cagjar is abyes puppet.The message was clear Abye is the real boss.
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Cagjar has a lot of tasks on his hands. He can't alienate certain groups even if they are useless and threat minorities. He has to first restart all the vital services and build strong teams. He is still appointing people and those people haven't yet fully taking over their portfolios. Some of them need training.

He has land issues of many things.

But the end goal should be to build strong Somalis in the region and that only means addressing everyone's grievance and taking their ideas into board. Hadhaw mel laga so maraya ma jirto.

Cadawgu wuxu radiya nabarka.

If Abdi iley hadn't killed so many Somalis and alienated them, they wouldn't hand him over. But he handed himself in after realising how much he was disliked and it meant a civil war between his small supporters and others.

I personally want Cagjar to do census on all degmos and zones.

After that he should request each degmo contributes 5-10% of their population to the forces. Along with Liyu he needs to create a regular police and put the Liyu in specified bases which should be fairly distributed for many good reasons.

You have to empower all people and get them to take initiative. Haday qolyaha kale so wareran wa ina fikirka laga sara 'reer hebel bay ishaystan' lakin uu arkan their own sons are in the frontline.
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He needs to treat everyone equally first, not favour his clan over other and clean up the mess created by Abdi Iley.
Isaaq need their own zone in K5 for a start. Gaashamo+awaare+harshin parts of Kebri Beyah and parts of Danood.
I was reading somewhere awaare is due to become its own zone soon, it has grown so fast. The population is estimated at over 140,000.
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It's hard to satisfy every one . The guy is the farmaajo version of somali galbeed. Personally he seems good person. But politically I have no idea. I hope all the best for him. The only thing I don't like about his administration is the fake zomalia flag he brought back. Abdi iley flag was the right and the most suitable one for the region.
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Ina cagjar is very good bureacrat and he is very smart As long as he keeps the peace and stability in dhagaxbuur qabridhahare jigjiga and harte sheikh and gaashaamo. It will be alright. If he doesn't and brings and acts like iley reer cabdulle than we have to take him out just like ileey is rotting in a galla cell. Also you have to understand the gallas are powerful Axmed abiye lemme meqershe general wolde is back. Gallas will rule for now. Somalia is dead mandheerteenia and shabaab will never heshiish ever so its impossible
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Togdeer wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:10 am He needs to treat everyone equally first, not favour his clan over other and clean up the mess created by Abdi Iley.
Isaaq need their own zone in K5 for a start. Gaashamo+awaare+harshin parts of Kebri Beyah and parts of Danood.
I was reading somewhere awaare is due to become its own zone soon, it has grown so fast. The population is estimated at over 140,000.
1) do you mean he shouldn’t be like your clan leader Musse Local?

2) why are you salivating over Darood land? Why should you be entitled to another mans land in this tribal region?

Do you want others to want your land and plot on your tiny piece of earth?
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Somalinimo to iidoor means affirmative action.Where iidoor are blindly empowered disproportionalty at the expense of others.Iidoor want to server links with Somalia but want Somali region to serve as the bridge of somalinimo is an irony.
The leader of AS waso nce iidoor and all he brought to the south was death and destruction ensuring that the security of the south was compromised for the ictiraf dream.
The death squad that Godane created and the underground network has shuttered the dreams of Somalinimo.
Charity begins at home let Muse bixi start propagating somalinimo because.SL is home to Dir,Darood and Hawiye.Let hime empower other clans and lest see if he gives Hawiye(fiqi shini) any cabinet posititions.

Iidoor are very hypocritic.They want others to practice somalinimo for the sake of their security and business continuity while their leaders and snet keyboard commandos wish the death and destruction of Somalia.
AW RASTALE go to Hargeisa and say Somalia hanolato.Ina Cagjar is nothing more than a motivational speaker under the control of Abye.He wasnt democratically elected nor has he stopped oromos savagery attack on somali civilians in the border regions especially around babile where somalis keep getting killed and no one lifts a finger.So supporting him just because his wife and mom is iidoor is pure hypocricy.Suppose they were Hawiye or Cise would you support the project.
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Django wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:15 am Somalinimo to iidoor means affirmative action.Where iidoor are blindly empowered disproportionalty at the expense of others.Iidoor want to server links with Somalia but want Somali region to serve as the bridge of somalinimo is an irony.
The leader of AS waso nce iidoor and all he brought to the south was death and destruction ensuring that the security of the south was compromised for the ictiraf dream.
The death squad that Godane created and the underground network has shuttered the dreams of Somalinimo.
Charity begins at home let Muse bixi start propagating somalinimo because.SL is home to Dir,Darood and Hawiye.Let hime empower other clans and lest see if he gives Hawiye(fiqi shini) any cabinet posititions.

Iidoor are very hypocritic.They want others to practice somalinimo for the sake of their security and business continuity while their leaders and snet keyboard commandos wish the death and destruction of Somalia.
AW RASTALE go to Hargeisa and say Somalia hanolato.Ina Cagjar is nothing more than a motivational speaker under the control of Abye.He wasnt democratically elected nor has he stopped oromos savagery attack on somali civilians in the border regions especially around babile where somalis keep getting killed and no one lifts a finger.So supporting him just because his wife and mom is iidoor is pure hypocricy.Suppose they were Hawiye or Cise would you support the project.
spot on, subservience to foreigners, enemies to fellow Somalis that is their motto. Imagine if they just negotiated with SFG, Berbera deal would be xalaal, but they choose to give it away for free to two different nations instead.
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it will be the ONLF that will be glue that holds the region together. The ONLF are respected by major tribes in the region and if they establish a political program, there will be less of a “my clan didn’t wasiir X” due to the larger goal drawning our Somali inter squabbles.

If it wasn’t for the ONLF, some of the larger OG sub clans would have Cagjar the middle finger for palacating vocal minority Somali clans.

Then you also have remnants of successive xabashi bureaucrats who perform important jobs but got their through years of nepotism and discrimination.

I wrote a topic awhile back why Cagjar was the farmaajo of the region. We will give him his 2 years and see what happens.
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dalalos101 wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:21 am
Django wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:15 am Somalinimo to iidoor means affirmative action.Where iidoor are blindly empowered disproportionalty at the expense of others.Iidoor want to server links with Somalia but want Somali region to serve as the bridge of somalinimo is an irony.
The leader of AS waso nce iidoor and all he brought to the south was death and destruction ensuring that the security of the south was compromised for the ictiraf dream.
The death squad that Godane created and the underground network has shuttered the dreams of Somalinimo.
Charity begins at home let Muse bixi start propagating somalinimo because.SL is home to Dir,Darood and Hawiye.Let hime empower other clans and lest see if he gives Hawiye(fiqi shini) any cabinet posititions.

Iidoor are very hypocritic.They want others to practice somalinimo for the sake of their security and business continuity while their leaders and snet keyboard commandos wish the death and destruction of Somalia.
AW RASTALE go to Hargeisa and say Somalia hanolato.Ina Cagjar is nothing more than a motivational speaker under the control of Abye.He wasnt democratically elected nor has he stopped oromos savagery attack on somali civilians in the border regions especially around babile where somalis keep getting killed and no one lifts a finger.So supporting him just because his wife and mom is iidoor is pure hypocricy.Suppose they were Hawiye or Cise would you support the project.
spot on, subservience to foreigners, enemies to fellow Somalis that is their motto. Imagine if they just negotiated with SFG, Berbera deal would be xalaal, but they choose to give it away for free to two different nations instead.
Spot on lads. They suffer from self-hatred (also called self loathing) is what they suffer from. It’s a extreme dislike or hatred of oneself or ethnicity , or being angry at or even prejudiced against his own ethnic group while praising others . ... Self-hatred is a important factor in some or many mental disorders.

Landers are ready to become anyone’s bitchh if it means ictraaf. They are collectively ready to sell their soul. It’s almost like a charity case now :clap:
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Kismaayo21 wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:30 am
dalalos101 wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:21 am
Django wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:15 am Somalinimo to iidoor means affirmative action.Where iidoor are blindly empowered disproportionalty at the expense of others.Iidoor want to server links with Somalia but want Somali region to serve as the bridge of somalinimo is an irony.
The leader of AS waso nce iidoor and all he brought to the south was death and destruction ensuring that the security of the south was compromised for the ictiraf dream.
The death squad that Godane created and the underground network has shuttered the dreams of Somalinimo.
Charity begins at home let Muse bixi start propagating somalinimo because.SL is home to Dir,Darood and Hawiye.Let hime empower other clans and lest see if he gives Hawiye(fiqi shini) any cabinet posititions.

Iidoor are very hypocritic.They want others to practice somalinimo for the sake of their security and business continuity while their leaders and snet keyboard commandos wish the death and destruction of Somalia.
AW RASTALE go to Hargeisa and say Somalia hanolato.Ina Cagjar is nothing more than a motivational speaker under the control of Abye.He wasnt democratically elected nor has he stopped oromos savagery attack on somali civilians in the border regions especially around babile where somalis keep getting killed and no one lifts a finger.So supporting him just because his wife and mom is iidoor is pure hypocricy.Suppose they were Hawiye or Cise would you support the project.
spot on, subservience to foreigners, enemies to fellow Somalis that is their motto. Imagine if they just negotiated with SFG, Berbera deal would be xalaal, but they choose to give it away for free to two different nations instead.
Spot on lads. They suffer from self-hatred (also called self loathing) is what they suffer from. It’s a extreme dislike or hatred of oneself or ethnicity , or being angry at or even prejudiced against his own ethnic group while praising others . ... Self-hatred is a important factor in some or many mental disorders.

Landers are ready to become anyone’s bitchh if it means ictraaf. They are collectively ready to sell their soul. It’s almost like a charity case now :clap:
Big up brudda, you are more honorable than them 100% because even though you are kryptonite to them, I have seen you switch it up as soon as a foreigner amXaar came in, this is the sign of gobanima, iidoor/jeegaan yibir aduunka ayaa ugu necebahay, hasa ahaate hadee dadkale wax ka sheegaan waa caawinaya walaalehay.
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wow Dhofar langaabs still obsessing over laandher barakeysan Isaaq. begging unity with us is code for us saving them from their own self destruction :lol:

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dalalos101 wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:37 am
Kismaayo21 wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:30 am
dalalos101 wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:21 am
spot on, subservience to foreigners, enemies to fellow Somalis that is their motto. Imagine if they just negotiated with SFG, Berbera deal would be xalaal, but they choose to give it away for free to two different nations instead.
Spot on lads. They suffer from self-hatred (also called self loathing) is what they suffer from. It’s a extreme dislike or hatred of oneself or ethnicity , or being angry at or even prejudiced against his own ethnic group while praising others . ... Self-hatred is a important factor in some or many mental disorders.

Landers are ready to become anyone’s bitchh if it means ictraaf. They are collectively ready to sell their soul. It’s almost like a charity case now :clap:
Big up brudda, you are more honorable than them 100% because even though you are kryptonite to them, I have seen you switch it up as soon as a foreigner amXaar came in, this is the sign of gobanima, iidoor/jeegaan yibir aduunka ayaa ugu necebahay, hasa ahaate hadee dadkale wax ka sheegaan waa caawinaya walaalehay.
Ugaas,

I don’t like their siyaasad, but not their Isir. I have nothing but respect for Sh Isxaaq AUN. I do not believe that I am better than them or anything like that.

I even get upset when the bhuddist Xplayer insists on speaking on Sh Isxaaq name with the same mouth he used to disrespect our prophet SAW

Unfortunately for them, they have Isir naceyb towards us. They hate our lineage, they curse Darood Iyo ragga dhintay.

They are moving like yahuudis, which to them is a compliment :lol:

I respect any Isaaq unionists like Nimco Qorane, Coldoon is a flip flopped but I still respect him.

Likewise I disrespect anyone who wants to divide Somalis, even if they hail from my own family.

Guul Iyo gobanimo my bro

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Doofaar ismaciil was defeated by emperor xailsesellassie when their elders kissed his ring in the 1940s. When the king visited qabridhahare doofaar ismaciil again was defeated in 1991. They were defeated by maxakim in 2007 2008 again under cabdilahi beerdoofaar.

ONLF is a reer Isaaq cali and herun organisation cagjar is acting Somali but it's gone doofaar ismaciil will never defeat abiye axmed lemme meqershe and opdo olf under abdisa. Meles tigrawi defeated them.
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