Ali Mahdi controls 50 % of Mogadishu in 1993 as chairman of USC and declares a strong Darod cabinet as his government

[Flower5]

President and chairman of USC Party - Abgaal

Interior minister Darod

Defence Minister Darod

Finance Minister Darod

Education Minister Darod

Foreign Minister Darod

[Django]

They were all MJ

[9kaSamaale]

Ali mahdi was a Darood point man sent to divide USC. A powerful group of politicians known as 'Dastuuri aka manifesto ' comprising of all somali clans, too occupied with fear of things getting out of their hand, yet incognizant of Darood's mischiefs lobbied with Arab league, and opted for a surpposedly neutral Hawiye politicians preferably from Abgal. ALI MAHDI having few enemies as opposed to General AIDEED was the best option to bring all somalis on board. However, Aideed saw that as betrayal of his struggle; the action backfired and the outcome was disasterous

[Togdeer]

Ali Mahdi was the guy that destroyed the Somali republic. USC - general Caydiid and SNM wanted to form a new government which was going to be mainly hawiye and isaaq, since darood lost the war. This would have been normal as usually the winners of the war take control.
But then Ali Mahdi claimed the be president. The SNM members had a meeting. They said we can’t share anything with these guys from the south, let’s just claim our sovereignty back, which they did.
Had Ali Mahdi not been so power hungry somalia would have had Caydiid or Tuur as President, the country would have been united and peaceful.

[Sharmarke91]

Ali Mahdi was the guy that destroyed the Somali republic. USC - general Caydiid and SNM wanted to form a new government which was going to be mainly hawiye and isaaq, since darood lost the war. This would have been normal as usually the winners of the war take control.
But then Ali Mahdi claimed the be president. The SNM members had a meeting. They said we can’t share anything with these guys from the south, let’s just claim our sovereignty back, which they did.
Had Ali Mahdi not been so power hungry somalia would have had Caydiid or Tuur as President, the country would have been united and peaceful.

The Hawiye deposed Siad Barre, I don't know why you Idoor make that claim. If the Hawiye had any brains they would of formed a Hawiye led government since they were the victors. Fortunately for the Darod they could get their act together that's why the Darod are ruling supreme now.

[X.Playa]

Ali Mahdi was the guy that destroyed the Somali republic. USC - general Caydiid and SNM wanted to form a new government which was going to be mainly hawiye and isaaq, since darood lost the war. This would have been normal as usually the winners of the war take control.
But then Ali Mahdi claimed the be president. The SNM members had a meeting. They said we can’t share anything with these guys from the south, let’s just claim our sovereignty back, which they did.
Had Ali Mahdi not been so power hungry somalia would have had Caydiid or Tuur as President, the country would have been united and peaceful.

The Hawiye deposed Siad Barre, I don't know why you Idoor make that claim. If the Hawiye had any brains they would of formed a Hawiye led government since they were the victors. Fortunately for the Darod they could get their act together that's why the Darod are ruling supreme now.

Its strange how comment at the end of the day you as a Daarood was raped , by Isaaq or by Hawiye what difference does it make qurji boy?

[Sharmarke91]

Ali Mahdi was the guy that destroyed the Somali republic. USC - general Caydiid and SNM wanted to form a new government which was going to be mainly hawiye and isaaq, since darood lost the war. This would have been normal as usually the winners of the war take control.
But then Ali Mahdi claimed the be president. The SNM members had a meeting. They said we can’t share anything with these guys from the south, let’s just claim our sovereignty back, which they did.
Had Ali Mahdi not been so power hungry somalia would have had Caydiid or Tuur as President, the country would have been united and peaceful.

The Hawiye deposed Siad Barre, I don't know why you Idoor make that claim. If the Hawiye had any brains they would of formed a Hawiye led government since they were the victors. Fortunately for the Darod they could get their act together that's why the Darod are ruling supreme now.

Its strange how comment at the end of the day you as a Daarood was raped , by Isaaq or by Hawiye what difference does it make qurji boy?

I like to give credit were its do, the Darod themselves have done some damage in the past (as you are expertly aware off) but we don't hold any resentment or grudges for anybody we move forward, unlike your whining and whinging Idoor.

In other words every dog has his day and today is Darod's day.

The Qudhmis contributed nothing they were on the brink of being completely annihilated and eradicated before the Hawiye took up arms in the south - if they hadn't i think the entire Eydoor clan would have experienced complete genocidal decimation. Its reported that over 500,000 of the Eydoors (entire populations of the triangle) left their homeland and entered Ethiopia in what was described as biblical exodus, while over 200,000 of them were butchered and eliminated.

What other Somali clan has faced such a fate from another Somali clan?

[Togdeer]

Ali Mahdi was the guy that destroyed the Somali republic. USC - general Caydiid and SNM wanted to form a new government which was going to be mainly hawiye and isaaq, since darood lost the war. This would have been normal as usually the winners of the war take control.
But then Ali Mahdi claimed the be president. The SNM members had a meeting. They said we can’t share anything with these guys from the south, let’s just claim our sovereignty back, which they did.
Had Ali Mahdi not been so power hungry somalia would have had Caydiid or Tuur as President, the country would have been united and peaceful.

The Hawiye deposed Siad Barre, I don't know why you Idoor make that claim. If the Hawiye had any brains they would of formed a Hawiye led government since they were the victors. Fortunately for the Darod they could get their act together that's why the Darod are ruling supreme now.

Funny you say that when 90% of Faqash army was stationed in the north, most soldiers, weapons were used in the north, biggest military bases were in the north. USC fought the presidential guards. We did most of the fighting. Anyways you’ve been defeated, now your my slave.

[AwRastaale]

Ali Mahdi was the guy that destroyed the Somali republic. USC - general Caydiid and SNM wanted to form a new government which was going to be mainly hawiye and isaaq, since darood lost the war. This would have been normal as usually the winners of the war take control.
But then Ali Mahdi claimed the be president. The SNM members had a meeting. They said we can’t share anything with these guys from the south, let’s just claim our sovereignty back, which they did.
Had Ali Mahdi not been so power hungry somalia would have had Caydiid or Tuur as President, the country would have been united and peaceful.

The Hawiye deposed Siad Barre, I don't know why you Idoor make that claim. If the Hawiye had any brains they would of formed a Hawiye led government since they were the victors. Fortunately for the Darod they could get their act together that's why the Darod are ruling supreme now.

Either you don't know history or you deliberately downplaying SNM's role. We all know USC played major role in ousting Siad Barre but the reality is SNM played huge role in USC itself.

First of all the very founding father of USC before such organisation was the Vice-President of SNM. He was instructed always to rally the Hawiye people. From organisational point of view, he took all of SNM's papers including charters and established the very except organisation from body to board members and leaders. Very exact structural.

Secondly, SNM had SSNM. Again SNM armed USC.

SNM organised Aideed to fly to Ethiopia while SNM convinced the Ethiopian government to boot out SSDF.

USC was basically splitter group from SNM; the father always takes credit:



Thirdly, SNM faced and destroyed what was Somali Republic's largest division---26th.

26th was always the largest division in the Somalia forces--hq Hargeisa.




By 1989 SNM already defeated Barre forces in the north



SNM armed USC



Don't just talk rubbish. Facts. No one dismisses USC role and its importance. But you must tell facts.

[Typhoon]

Ali Mahdi was the guy that destroyed the Somali republic. USC - general Caydiid and SNM wanted to form a new government which was going to be mainly hawiye and isaaq, since darood lost the war. This would have been normal as usually the winners of the war take control.
But then Ali Mahdi claimed the be president. The SNM members had a meeting. They said we can’t share anything with these guys from the south, let’s just claim our sovereignty back, which they did.
Had Ali Mahdi not been so power hungry somalia would have had Caydiid or Tuur as President, the country would have been united and peaceful.

The Hawiye deposed Siad Barre, I don't know why you Idoor make that claim. If the Hawiye had any brains they would of formed a Hawiye led government since they were the victors. Fortunately for the Darod they could get their act together that's why the Darod are ruling supreme now.

Either you don't know history or you deliberately downplaying SNM's role. We all know USC played major role in ousting Siad Barre but the reality is SNM played huge role in USC itself.

First of all the very founding father of USC before such organisation was the Vice-President of SNM. He was instructed always to rally the Hawiye people. From organisational point of view, he took all of SNM's papers including charters and established the very except organisation from body to board members and leaders. Very exact structural.

Secondly, SNM had SSNM. Again SNM armed USC.

SNM organised Aideed to fly to Ethiopia while SNM convinced the Ethiopian government to boot out SSDF.



Thirdly, SNM faced and destroyed what was Somali Republic's largest division---26th.

26th was always the largest division in the Somalia forces--hq Hargeisa.




By 1989 SNM already defeated Barre forces in the north



SNM armed USC



Don't just talk rubbish. Facts.

nonsese

i gues snm is the power behind the soviet union and the derg strategic planners, foking idot


general abdiaziz ali barre controlled hargeisa berbera and burco even though siyaad barre was in baydhabo and the government fell

aidid had noting to do with usc infect aidid did not kick out siyaad barre it was kacdoonka shacabka and tribal war started all over the city thats when usc soldiers took over military baracks in this time aidid was in mistaxiil, aidid faction was decimated and brutally suppressed by col dhagobacayr, anybody from the central regions knows the harsh counter insurgency of this legendary colonel ask any xawadle or habar gedir about dhagobacayr (he died on top of a building during kacdoonka shacab)

when aidid entered xamar the marexaan were already in gedo and kismayo and siyaad was in baydhabo and later moved to buurdhuubo


qustion is how did abdiaziz ali barre controlle entire wagooyi while siyaad barre fell
here is a video of snm in january 1991
general abdiaziz reliqueshed controll over wagooyi when cumer qaalib said ciidaanka ha isku dhibaan jamhadaha thats when the general took his weapons and left for the south

general abdiaziz ali bare is the only general that had full control of his sector in 1991 while the spm was taking over entire south upto the gates of xamar
abdiaziz ali barre is the same general that defeated aidid and abdiqeybdid in the battle of gaalkaciyo, a turning point in the civil war
snm was fighting over 10 years and could not take over 1 major city and hold more then few days.

morgan and gaani really finished the snm by the time abdiaziz took over. snm was toothless and were only pesky in terms of human rights and diplomatically but militarily they were wick, ethiopia kicked them out and they were roaming the countryside attacking military petrol vehicles and supply trucks.there is a reason idoors like abdiaziz ali barre and hate gaani and morgan because abdiaziz dealt with tootles snm

after 1988 no major operations were conducted by the snm

by the way general abdiaziz ali barre lives in addis ababa

[AwRastaale]

Typhoon

I get it you used to vomiting garbage in your fadhi ku dirir sessions. I'm just getting long, poorly written broke English essays per usual while I have slapped you guys hard with facts straight from independent and Western sources

No wonder you're all emotional.

Let me give you more education and perhaps you will understand emotional outbursts and long poorly written essays are not facts:

SNM were the strongest rebels



SNM ate the regime alive despite having all of its muscles in the north



I feel your pain kid.

[nine]

Somaliland declared independence after the overthrow of Somali military dictator Siad Barre in 1991.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-14115069

SNM was up north far away from the capital. For it to remove the kacaan by itself is laughable. And for SNM to even try to move dosn south would be a logistical nightmare and pretty much impossible

[Typhoon]

explain why was abdiaziz ali barre still in control of hargeisa, burco and berbera while siyaad was in baydhabo

siyaad fell in january 20 and snm entered hargeisa in late April early may

you have no clue about the genesis of the somali civil war

iska orphan habashi ba tahay go speak to abdiwahab and voltage because they are well versed in those early days

70 percent of the somali civil war is undocumented so your little sources is from arm chair observers

go read old snet threads and you will be suprised how much is unwritten
by the time snm entered northern cities they were already infighting and were infighting and were overwhelmed by maryo calool, thats why snm veterans are drinking wisky in their wheel chairs with a military fatigue jackets just like tom cruise movie born of the 4th of July

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

The Hawiye deposed Siad Barre, I don't know why you Idoor make that claim. If the Hawiye had any brains they would of formed a Hawiye led government since they were the victors. Fortunately for the Darod they could get their act together that's why the Darod are ruling supreme now.

Either you don't know history or you deliberately downplaying SNM's role. We all know USC played major role in ousting Siad Barre but the reality is SNM played huge role in USC itself.

First of all the very founding father of USC before such organisation was the Vice-President of SNM. He was instructed always to rally the Hawiye people. From organisational point of view, he took all of SNM's papers including charters and established the very except organisation from body to board members and leaders. Very exact structural.

Secondly, SNM had SSNM. Again SNM armed USC.

SNM organised Aideed to fly to Ethiopia while SNM convinced the Ethiopian government to boot out SSDF.



Thirdly, SNM faced and destroyed what was Somali Republic's largest division---26th.

26th was always the largest division in the Somalia forces--hq Hargeisa.




By 1989 SNM already defeated Barre forces in the north



SNM armed USC



Don't just talk rubbish. Facts.

nonsese

i gues snm is the power behind the soviet union and the derg strategic planners, foking idot


general abdiaziz ali barre controlled hargeisa berbera and burco even though siyaad barre was in baydhabo and the government fell

aidid had noting to do with usc infect aidid did not kick out siyaad barre it was kacdoonka shacabka and tribal war started all over the city thats when usc soldiers took over military baracks in this time aidid was in mistaxiil, aidid faction was decimated and brutally suppressed by col dhagobacayr, anybody from the central regions knows the harsh counter insurgency of this legendary colonel ask any xawadle or habar gedir about dhagobacayr (he died on top of a building during kacdoonka shacab)

when aidid entered xamar the marexaan were already in gedo and kismayo and siyaad was in baydhabo and later moved to buurdhuubo


qustion is how did abdiaziz ali barre controlle entire wagooyi while siyaad barre fell
here is a video of snm in january 1991
general abdiaziz reliqueshed controll over wagooyi when cumer qaalib said ciidaanka ha isku dhibaan jamhadaha thats when the general took his weapons and left for the south

general abdiaziz ali bare is the only general that had full control of his sector in 1991 while the spm was taking over entire south upto the gates of xamar
abdiaziz ali barre is the same general that defeated aidid and abdiqeybdid in the battle of gaalkaciyo, a turning point in the civil war
snm was fighting over 10 years and could not take over 1 major city and hold more then few days.

morgan and gaani really finished the snm by the time abdiaziz took over. snm was toothless and were only pesky in terms of human rights and diplomatically but militarily they were wick, ethiopia kicked them out and they were roaming the countryside attacking military petrol vehicles and supply trucks.there is a reason idoors like abdiaziz ali barre and hate gaani and morgan because abdiaziz dealt with tootles snm

after 1988 no major operations were conducted by the snm

by the way general abdiaziz ali barre lives in addis ababa

Your right about Kacdoonka Shacabka. It was Abgaal and murusade locals who started the war. Aidid came a week before MSB was ousted with xawaadle from mustaxiil..

Thats why Ali Mahdi and his faction couldn’t accept Aidid hijacking the whole thing.

[Murax]

They were all MJ

The only so called ‘Darood forces’in the early 90s was Marexan, Lelkasse and Dhulbahante only against rest of Somalia. Ogaden,Majerten were USC until they started being killed. Anyway who cares.