It's a small world truly. Myself even I did not see it coming.
Here is what I discovered. I'm actually related to Cagjar and his minister of petroleum/energy.
Cagjar's mum and my grandmother (AUN) are close relatives both from same degmo. She is resting in Gosayga near Daroor. She made my family. She was the reason why we became Reer Hawd having locked us down with her Yonis when my grandfather past away (AUN). Very tough woman she was.
The minister of energy is the same. His grandmother (hooyo side) is my eedo. He is reer Abdulle. And the two of us share no common border. The least expected.
My uncles from his hooyo side some are reer Kenya. Big big family (two bah). Very well known in Hargeisa and Nairobi. He was wealthy man. His sister is the minister's grandmother. His father was long term ONLF supporter.
When we were in Kenya (Nairobi) to come abroad, we used to stay with them. I think Django is the same.
Very close family. Timiro will know them
Small world indeed. They have nothing but my blessing.
bashe19 wrote: Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:45 pm
Tell us where r y related with QOTIS, Oromo?
if he is, what's wrong with that?
do u have control over what you were born as, and who u are related to?
no.
so....keep calm.
Slow down you too. Its long hisory bwn to Somais, can y ser place 4 you?
who cares tho if one is related to oromo or not? what does that have to do with your personal problem with this guy. or with isaaq?
do u think all somalis are pure and not mixed at all with their neighbors? if so, u are in for a rude awakening my friend.
u do not neighbor oromos yet always cry and bitch about us, whether its on here, or on mereja
then, u cry more to other somalis, to aid you in your cyber war on oromos; then, on the other hand, call the dir ''vampires'' the darood ''faqash'' Donqonki Ogaden'' and so on.
You’re both low IQ trolls. I don’t expect you to understand why we needed to pretend to be backing the Gallas against TPLF and ultimately Abdi iley.
Now to get rid off the Gallas, we need the Amhara so that vicious cycle can continue between the three.
If in the short term our interest was backing Luo against the Kikuyu in Kenya doesn’t mean we are related or there’s love there like some of you think.
It’s mere politics and sad how very few Somalis think so small in politics.
Gallas were just a tool for abolishing TPLF and now the next tool are the Amhara.
We will encircle the Gallas. They kick them from that side, we kick them from this side.
Dire Dawa and Moyale are no different than Amhara’s Addis Ababa just to name one area of Gallas’ ill claims.
So working together might be necessary. The days they used to run to us to seek shelter from their historical owners has came to an end.
Waachis,
What we call each others as Somali brothers, isn’t your concern nor business.
It’s something our forefathers used on each others and it never amounted to anything than like two football club supporters.
It’s never equal to your pagan none relationship none connection status.
You’re mere guest here while none of us Somalis are to each others.
1) You are known to cry about the very idea of ''re-uniting'' with southern somalia; but as soon as tplf officials get some pressure applied, you want to rush to unite somalis; as if that wouldn't be noticed? Since when do somalis care or feel effected by the ethiopian government wanting to target, and rightfully so, the former and current tplf officials? Who would feel threatened by an Oromo PM leading efforts to arrest, and rightfully so, the corrupt tplf officials and their cronies from other ethnic groups too: somalis or tigrayans?
2) Why do you need amharas or others to ''subdue gallas,'' why can't you do it on your own, if you're so superior, brave, etc, ?
somalis, as you say, are superior, brave, infallible, etc, so if YOU WERE INDEED SOMALI, you'd FEEL NO NEED to beg others to ''fight gallas'', since the nation you claim to belong to, is so superior? Right? Begging others to help you fight ''gallas,'' surely doesn't seem like the type of comments or plans, a confident man/person, would make....
3) You cannot call a Muslim a pagan/kafir, and be a Muslim yourself, only a retarded agame troll would do such a thing (also, u are calling for the oppression of millions of muslim oromos, then pretending to be religious on the other hand):
(yes I am aware of the difference between pagans and kafirs, but in Islam; both are considered Non Muslims, thus, wrong to use for a large group of Muslims, such as the Oromos)
Imam Bukhari related in his Sahih v. 4, p. 124 #6103, 6104 on the authority of Ibn ‘Umar and Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet Muhammad (sallaAllahu alayhie wa sallam) said, “If a man says to his brother, ‘O kafir,’ then it returns to one of them.” Likewise, Imam Muslim narrated similar hadiths in his Sahih v. 2, p. 237-38 on the authority of Ibn ‘Umar and Abu Dharr.
In Rawdah v. 10, p. 65, Imam Nawawi cited from Mutawalli, “And if one says to a Muslim, ‘O kafir,’ in without interpretation, it is kufr; because, it is calling Islam kufr.” In Irshad al-Sari v. 9, p. 65, Qastalani said,
لأنه إن كان القائل صادقا في نفس الأمر فالمرمي كافر وإن كان كاذبا فقد جعل الرامي الإيمان كفرا ومن جعل الإيمان كفرا فقد كفر كذا حمله البخاري على تحقق الكفر على أحدهما بمقتضى الترجمة ولذا ترجم عليه مقيدا بغير تأويل وحمله بعضهم على الزجر والتغليظ فيكون ظاهره غير مراد
“Because if the one issuing the statement is right regarding the matter, then the one upon whom the statement is given is a kafir; while if mistaken, then the accuser has made iman into kufr, and one who does this is a kafir. Like this Imam Bukhari has applied the hadith to be a fact that the kufr is found with one of them, pursuant to the chapter heading. Thus, he has entitled the chapter specifying that the statement be uninterpretable. Others have carried the hadith on zajr and taghliz, accordingly the zahir of the hadith is not intended [according to their understanding].”
4) no matter how you word it, or phrase it; wanting to incite evil/conflicts, divide society, cause and see mischief, is not ISLAMIC, regardless of whether or not it's politically based/motivated.
so keep exposing the evils of your own soul-It makes it that much easier to dismantle your foolish and Machiavellian commentary and posts.
A Muslim does not sell his soul or morals, for the sake of ''politics,'' which are temporary anyway, and won't last forever; but the akhirat is forever and we'll all be held accountable there.....
Abiy is going to do more appeasing the Amhara and eventually bringing them to power than meeting Galla needs. Remember that and you will see it for yourself in few years.
The Somalis are not begging for allies against the pagan Gallas. The Somalis need mandate and the blessing of Addis Ababa to man handle the Gallas. In few years time when the Amhara replaces Abiy and it all becomes obvious that they are in control-----they are needed to turn a blind eye (Gallas are disease needed to be dealt with like in your own Addis Ababa so turn away).
And for your information Gallas are never authentic Muslims. They still keep their pagan Gods in their homes and make the Irreecha pilgrimage every year more so than Makkah.
These are the Afran Qallo supposedly "Muslims" offering their pagan gifts to their Waaq.
Gallas never really learned or become full Muslims---they took the superficial titles in order to gain favors from Muslims in the region including Somalis and Sudanese (case of Wellega/Jimma).
Also whenever a job comes up to hold for the Christian Amharas, the Galla is first to denounce his Muslim faith and be crowded as Christian leader. Good examples include Aba Jiffar of Jimma, Ras Ali Mikael of Wollo, Abiy Ahmed, and so many others that I could gather easily.
Save your tears for Waaq my friend.
Also ask yourself why Gallas in the Diaspora never build a single mosque while their Somali counterparts build one in every city they go or two or three?
You're a Galla and that's that. The Somalis gave them very fitting name.
One Galla writes:
tolcha wrote: Fri Nov 23, 2018 3:08 pm
The Lemma team should understand that no ethnic is Oromos friend. Don't be deceived buddy. Each waiting for the conducive time to bite you from every corner. So, better to arm Oromo people, specially those residing on the border and the periphery of the ciuntry.
I'm very well informed on these things. At times it's necessary to be short term 'friend' until the end goal is served, same way I made that map for the Tigrais thinking that I was pro-TPLF/Tigray. End goal was to give them the map so they could promote it then walk into Amhara's own resentment and vigilance.
It worked.
It was then picked up by Amhara including their ESAT television who used it to rally their own people in order to avoid losing more land to Tigray.
X.Playa wrote: Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:40 pm
And who give a shit if you are related to some random Cagdheer? Aw Jaajuus are you having a mental break down?
It doesn't concern Galla people like you (Buddhist) and Waachis (Waaq).
Social relations between Muslim Somalis is important.
I don't understand why Wachis is being called pagan/kaffir under the guise of superficial ethnic hatred. So what if the entire Oromo nation is not Muslim? If I find a single Chinese Muslim, then that guy is my Muslim brother and no less Muslim than I. Let alone the Oromo whom are 1/2 to 2/3 Muslim.
With that said, I would take Wachis over the Amxaar Awrastaale anyday of the week with his imperial Habesh flag. Wachis displays Islam etiquette and behavior more than most people here. He has morals, is composed, dignified, and respectful even in xenophobic topics where Oromophobia was displayed by some ignorant kids on here.
