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These guys fish and sell their catch at 10,000 shillings, then the traders in Hargaysa sell it at 40,000, yet these guys are complaining about lack of market? its very bizarre economy.

X.Playa wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:27 pm These guys fish and sell their catch at 10,000 shillings, then the traders in Hargaysa sell it at 40,000, yet these guys are complaining about lack of market? its very bizarre economy.

trust me I have degree in economics and if you try understand economics back home you won't it's basically top cats eating money and these guys are just small fish in the pond.

I don't eat big fishs due to fear of mercury. I only eat small ones . Sardines is my favourite.

X.Playa wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:27 pm These guys fish and sell their catch at 10,000 shillings, then the traders in Hargaysa sell it at 40,000, yet these guys are complaining about lack of market? its very bizarre economy.

SL public sector needs more money so they can have QA/QC and more regulations in general. The gov is piss poor which leaves the private sector unregulated...and trust me, gov isn't poor just because of musuq maasuq, It needs to capitalize on at least one sector. Even the energy in cities is privately owned

Daqaalo dalki ma aha in balance big guys are taking all the profit killing the rest of competition and dominating entire market. Muse government will be judged on how he fixes this economy so the average family have a minimum decent living standard. These fishermen should sell the fish in cooperative and bypass the middleman, they should sell and share profits and withstand as a group the losses. They should have a representative to press the government for support and be involved in politics to pressure lobby for their fishing rights market selling and so on. Weyna barandona dadkeenu wa dadka daqso wax u famahmo somalilander wey ka guontey iney daqlo iyo hormar sameyan.

I met a guy in burco his brothers sent him a refrigerated van. The guy used to buy directly from the fishermen in berbera. Then he would sell it in Burco and the fish would still be fresh. He was making a good living and cutting out the middleman.
People should innovate like the man I met in Burco.

Togdeer wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:48 pm I met a guy in burco his brothers sent him a refrigerated van. The guy used to buy directly from the fishermen in berbera. Then he would sell it in Burco and the fish would still be fresh. He was making a good living and cutting out the middleman.
People should innovate like the man I met in Burco.

Another problem is , each one of them wants to be his own man and get rich by himself , instead of cooperating . I don't understand how they can't find refrigerators and ice-maker!! i have watched plenty of videos where an Scandavian company donated these equipment not long ago and also trained local fishermen in Berbera??? whats going on?? meeshan ma foosto dalooshaa oon buuxsamaynba?

Also if 1 kilo of fish can be sold for $1 by the fishermen and $3-$4 by traders in Hargaysa , that is very profitable business, how can the fishermen then say " they cant find a market for their fish and sometimes they threw it back in to the sea".!!!!

X.Playa wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:55 pm

Togdeer wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:48 pm I met a guy in burco his brothers sent him a refrigerated van. The guy used to buy directly from the fishermen in berbera. Then he would sell it in Burco and the fish would still be fresh. He was making a good living and cutting out the middleman.
People should innovate like the man I met in Burco.

Another problem is , each one of them wants to be his own man and get rich by himself , instead of cooperating . I don't understand how they can't find refrigerators and ice-maker!! i have watched plenty of videos where an Scandavian company donated these equipment not long ago and also trained local fishermen in Berbera??? whats going on?? meeshan ma foosto dalooshaa oon buuxsamaynba?

Also if 1 kilo of fish can be sold for $1 by the fishermen and $3-$4 by traders in Hargaysa , that is very profitable business, how can the fishermen then say " they cant find a market for their fish and sometimes they threw it back in to the sea".!!!!

It’s true somalilanders don’t know how to cooperate. If all the fishermen in berbera joined up and added some change together they can dominate the market. They can buy an ice maker and some refrigerated trucks. If they were smart they would build a cold room in wajaale and supply fish to Ethiopia who would live some.
Our farmers are the same there are no commercial fruit/veg farms in Somaliland. Some guys joined up and did a chicken farm now business is booming. When people work together a lot can be done.

Somaliland government and fishermen can't afford to buy a simple mechain as this??????

Improvisation and innovation are killed by ngo handouts.
Somalis are like children......they can't do anything for themselves.

Original dhoocil your landlocked.

X.Playa wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:11 pm Somaliland government and fishermen can't afford to buy a simple mechain as this??????

Sxb it is not that they can't afford such equipments but there's this culture that prevails within all Somalis, it is called something for nothing culture. Instead of investing in the things they need for their trade they prefer to beg for those things and be handed to them by some corrupt NGOs or government body.
I will bet my cows that if you brought those equipments that they need and asks them to buy them of you, they would not and would properly accuse you trying to sell them something that they should be getting by right.

X.Playa wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:55 pm

Togdeer wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:48 pm I met a guy in burco his brothers sent him a refrigerated van. The guy used to buy directly from the fishermen in berbera. Then he would sell it in Burco and the fish would still be fresh. He was making a good living and cutting out the middleman.
People should innovate like the man I met in Burco.

Another problem is , each one of them wants to be his own man and get rich by himself , instead of cooperating . I don't understand how they can't find refrigerators and ice-maker!! i have watched plenty of videos where an Scandavian company donated these equipment not long ago and also trained local fishermen in Berbera??? whats going on?? meeshan ma foosto dalooshaa oon buuxsamaynba?

Also if 1 kilo of fish can be sold for $1 by the fishermen and $3-$4 by traders in Hargaysa , that is very profitable business, how can the fishermen then say " they cant find a market for their fish and sometimes they threw it back in to the sea".!!!!

Like you said they need to cooperate and sell their fish collectively instead of individually and that way they could have more power to exert in negotiating the price. Also, that donated equipment you saw are bogus. These NGOs got smarter through the years, they show the Media few samples and when the cameras stop, and all the invited guest (including the bribed government officials to speak at the Xaflad) go home, and they (NGOs representatives) go back to their hotels as well and leave the country next day without distributing the supposed equipment. In other scenarios, the donated equipment ends up at the hands of government officials.

In my opinion, it has to do with bad governing, the government must make sure the fishers get compensated their fish fairly and not let trader in big cities sell tenfold the price they paid. The government should order traders to give fair price to the fishers. Also, it’s the government’s job to make sure the donated equipment reache the right individuals.