They number more than a million yet the Somali govts and maamul goboleeds marginalise them.
Imagine even a garac somali from mainstream clans have more honour than them yet a midgan/gabooye has nasab.
The others group is more than raxaweyn yet they share less.If you add All madibans, midgans, gabooyes, bajuunis,shaanshi,tuuni,jareerweyn.
Re: THE SOMALI OUTCAST COMMUNITY
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:19 pm
by ReturnOfMariixmaan
We should mainstream the Midgaan groups. The non Cushitic groups like the Jareerweyn, we should deport them for ethnic survival.
Re: THE SOMALI OUTCAST COMMUNITY
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:21 pm
by Django
The midgans/gabooyesclaim they originated from dir as Dir is the premodial somali clan.
Re: THE SOMALI OUTCAST COMMUNITY
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:34 pm
by ReturnOfMariixmaan
They got outcasted for eating dead flesh for survival. Somalis are really a primitive people. Dir is the oldest clan elder. I wonder, what the origins of Dir are. Isaaqs claimed them until they grew into their own clan family.
Re: THE SOMALI OUTCAST COMMUNITY
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:37 pm
by Django
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:34 pm
They got outcasted for eating dead flesh for survival. Somalis are really a primitive people. Dir is the oldest clan elder. I wonder, what the origins of Dir are. Isaaqs claimed them until they grew into their own clan family.
Wat about garac?
Look at this woman with nasab she is more beautiful than alot of somali women.
Re: THE SOMALI OUTCAST COMMUNITY
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:40 pm
by ReturnOfMariixmaan
I'll fuck her. But I'll never marry her tbh. The stigma is serious especially from older female relatives. They are ironically, the ones who keep the qabayalad alive in all seriousness.
Re: THE SOMALI OUTCAST COMMUNITY
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:50 pm
by Django
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:40 pm
I'll fuck her. But I'll never marry her tbh. The stigma is serious especially from older female relatives. They are ironically, the ones who keep the qabayalad alive in all seriousness.
But you will marry a marexan garac? Or cadaan gaal.
She is not talking about qabyalad.She is talking about her community being marginalised and its true.Tge only qabileyste are those that marginalise them and shed crocodile tears for somaliya tooso and embezzle funds for the development of the country.
Somalia needs a ministry created for marginalised communities and should be led by Gabooye who would look into fighting their rights and assisting them in development.
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:40 pm
I'll fuck her. But I'll never marry her tbh. The stigma is serious especially from older female relatives. They are ironically, the ones who keep the qabayalad alive in all seriousness.
But you will marry a marexan garac? Or cadaan gaal.
She is not talking about qabyalad.She is talking about her community being marginalised and its true.Tge only qabileyste are those that marginalise them and shed crocodile tears for somaliya tooso and embezzle funds for the development of the country.
Somalia needs a ministry created for marginalised communities and should be led by Gabooye who would look into fighting their rights and assisting them in development.
I agree. My red line is the Jareerweyn situation. Other than that I agree. There's no "MX garac"
Re: THE SOMALI OUTCAST COMMUNITY
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:52 am
by theyuusuf143
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:34 pm
They got outcasted for eating dead flesh for survival. Somalis are really a primitive people. Dir is the oldest clan elder. I wonder, what the origins of Dir are. Isaaqs claimed them until they grew into their own clan family.
Gabooye don't share common ancestor. They are multiple groups . They were all kicked out from the mainstream clans. They did not come from the sky . There was no jails so many of their ancestors commited different crimes so they are ousted " waa la dayriyey" Dir is a major Major clan most of its members grew into their own major clans and invented myths out of the blue . There is no such thing "wadaad caraba oo ay nebiga qaraabo yihiin oo keligii socda baa heblaayo iyo heblaayo kale fuulay markaasu malaayin qof dhalay" . We don't claim Dir we have always been Dir and native to the horn of Africa .
Re: THE SOMALI OUTCAST COMMUNITY
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:12 am
by original dervish
Only a minority of iidoor claim Dir.
The blame for their continued marginalization is with the Ulema.....why aren't they teaching the people this is un-Islamic?
Re: THE SOMALI OUTCAST COMMUNITY
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:28 am
by Almakhzumi
Shanshi, tunni and baajuni are not outcast, they are "weak" and unarmed. There is a big difference. The Shaanshi men back when we used to live in xamar used to marry "laandher" women alot.
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:34 pm
They got outcasted for eating dead flesh for survival. Somalis are really a primitive people. Dir is the oldest clan elder. I wonder, what the origins of Dir are. Isaaqs claimed them until they grew into their own clan family.
Gabooye don't share common ancestor. They are multiple groups . They were all kicked out from the mainstream clans. They did not come from the sky . There was no jails so many of their ancestors commited different crimes so they are ousted " waa la dayriyey" Dir is a major Major clan most of its members grew into their own major clans and invented myths out of the blue . There is no such thing "wadaad caraba oo ay nebiga qaraabo yihiin oo keligii socda baa heblaayo iyo heblaayo kale fuulay markaasu malaayin qof dhalay" . We don't claim Dir we have always been Dir and native to the horn of Africa .
I feel like isaaqs are conflicted on their nasab I heard some of them saying they're Dir and others claiming they're banu hashim which means Arab. two lineages that don't go together
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:34 pm
They got outcasted for eating dead flesh for survival. Somalis are really a primitive people. Dir is the oldest clan elder. I wonder, what the origins of Dir are. Isaaqs claimed them until they grew into their own clan family.
Gabooye don't share common ancestor. They are multiple groups . They were all kicked out from the mainstream clans. They did not come from the sky . There was no jails so many of their ancestors commited different crimes so they are ousted " waa la dayriyey" Dir is a major Major clan most of its members grew into their own major clans and invented myths out of the blue . There is no such thing "wadaad caraba oo ay nebiga qaraabo yihiin oo keligii socda baa heblaayo iyo heblaayo kale fuulay markaasu malaayin qof dhalay" . We don't claim Dir we have always been Dir and native to the horn of Africa .
I feel like isaaqs are conflicted on their nasab I heard some of them saying they're Dir and others claiming they're banu hashim which means Arab. two lineages that don't go together
If you believe that a single Arab shekh called daarood came from Arabia and fked a single dir woman in Sanaag , then fathered all daarood of today. You must be mad . I am well educated to believe this shit. Both isaq and darod are fake.
Re: THE SOMALI OUTCAST COMMUNITY
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:04 pm
by Tycoon5647
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:40 pm
I'll fuck her. But I'll never marry her tbh. The stigma is serious especially from older female relatives. They are ironically, the ones who keep the qabayalad alive in all seriousness.
Weak minded mf. Walahi your an idiot and a flower who can't stand up for his women.
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:40 pm
I'll fuck her. But I'll never marry her tbh. The stigma is serious especially from older female relatives. They are ironically, the ones who keep the qabayalad alive in all seriousness.
Weak minded mf. Walahi your an idiot and a flower who can't stand up for his women.
flower is flower my friend. Midgaan woman are beautiful. I would never marry them.