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While we are busy fighting each other. The US Navy is helping landlocked Ethiopia build a navy. Somalis are qasaro!
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:46 am
by ReturnOfMariixmaan
Re: While we are busy fighting each other. The US Navy is helping landlocked Ethiopia build a navy. Somalis are qasaro!
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:39 am
by Nolol cusub
You really think stuff like this will work on average people, when your Gedo president "sells" Somalia's deep waters to the Chinese.
Ethiopia has always been a western bitch and will always be. The problem for Ethiopian expansionism is basically two fold. Internally, it is surrounded by warring tribes that really want to devour each other the minute foreign donations dry out. The second problem, the West is in decline where China and Muslims are on the rise and are increasingly and strategically connected by global business interest. The silk road states are raising ( from the former Muslim Soviet states, to Pakistan,to Turkey to Gulf states, to East Africa will be interlinked by a global trade and common religious and historical experience. The far right hatred in Europe and America is just another manifestation of Western decline and which will worsen in the coming decades.
Ethiopia will be better served by being a good neighbor, but this point can only be brought home when the foreign donations and anti terror cash dry up.

How long you think US will subsidize shit-hole countries when their own country is 25 trillion in debt. Europe is in the same boat. Most of the European countries are in debt heavily.
Other factors that will discourage Ethiopian expansionism:
Millions of foreign born Somalis, educated, smart and wealthy will be invested in Somalia's national security and national interest. This is why it is critical that Somalia's development should have been started from the ground up. Each region should learn how to govern themselves and cooperate with the rest of the nation.
Now, can you go back to Gedo and clean up your land. Let's stop talking about fake Ethiopian navy meeting

Re: While we are busy fighting each other. The US Navy is helping landlocked Ethiopia build a navy. Somalis are qasaro!
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:32 am
by original dervish
I agree with everything you wrote....except to say it's critical Somalia has good and competent gov.
Without good governance......nothing will work.
Re: While we are busy fighting each other. The US Navy is helping landlocked Ethiopia build a navy. Somalis are qasaro!
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:40 am
by Waachis
Stop crying, it'll probably be based in Eritrea.
Re: While we are busy fighting each other. The US Navy is helping landlocked Ethiopia build a navy. Somalis are qasaro!
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:46 am
by Togdeer
Somalia is a failed state and has been a failed state for nearly 30 years. The way things are going nothing is going to change. The problem with reer somalia is they don’t care if their house is burning, but seem more interested in their neighbours house. State building and peace does not come overnight it starts with the people.
Gedo is the most poorest place in the whole of East Africa, but OP is more interested in Ethiopia.
As for OD your luck your under somaliland, if not Alshabab would have run east sool.
Re: While we are busy fighting each other. The US Navy is helping landlocked Ethiopia build a navy. Somalis are qasaro!
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:57 am
by Nolol cusub
original dervish wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:32 am
Without good governance......nothing will work.
I think it is too late for the south. Read my reply to Sahal80. I could be wrong, but I am rarely wrong on political development analysis.
https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=395528
Re: While we are busy fighting each other. The US Navy is helping landlocked Ethiopia build a navy. Somalis are qasaro!
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:05 am
by original dervish
You would be willing to abandon the capital and inter-riverine areas to Al Shabab?
This two bit terrorist group can be defeated with a well trained and equipped army together with tribal militias.
The only reason Al Shabab are so strong is because they hardly ever are put on the defensive.
Re: While we are busy fighting each other. The US Navy is helping landlocked Ethiopia build a navy. Somalis are qasaro!
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:14 am
by original dervish
You would be willing to abandon the capital and inter-riverine areas to Al Shabab?
This two bit terrorist group can be defeated with a well trained and equipped army together with tribal militias.
The only reason Al Shabab are so strong is because they hardly ever are put on the defensive.
Somalia should study the fall and annihilation of the Tamil Tigers.
They were cut off from supplies and surrounded. Eventually the noose was tightened and the Tigers faced a sustained attack from all directions, land, sea and air.
Somalia needs a govt of national unity with its top priority of building a formidable SNA/intelligence apparatus....not the mickey mouse outfits we have today.
Furthermore, any of the shady businessmen/politicians, warlords etc whom are found to be guilty of destabilization should have their foreign assets frozen and seng to the ICC.
Re: While we are busy fighting each other. The US Navy is helping landlocked Ethiopia build a navy. Somalis are qasaro!
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:14 am
by Nubis
Re: While we are busy fighting each other. The US Navy is helping landlocked Ethiopia build a navy. Somalis are qasaro!
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:25 am
by Nolol cusub
Togdeer wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:46 am
Somalia is a failed state and has been a failed state for nearly 30 years. The way things are going nothing is going to change. The problem with reer somalia is they don’t care if their house is burning, but seem more interested in their neighbours house. State building and peace does not come overnight it starts with the people.
Gedo is the most poorest place in the whole of East Africa, but OP is more interested in Ethiopia.
On the mark. By the way I am a big fan of what Somaliland people have achieved in decades. Lovely people too.
Re: While we are busy fighting each other. The US Navy is helping landlocked Ethiopia build a navy. Somalis are qasaro!
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:09 am
by Typhoon
its minilik request is being implemented, habar awal and gedobursi is their biggest target, read minilik letter to european powers
the idoor idiotically invited emirate base not knowing that base was to be used by egypt to pressure ethiopia even the eritreans got suspicions of emirate long term goals and saw egypt airforce behind these bases
ethiopia am was always gulf of aden and best believe, the israelis and gulf states will love to make somaliland another kilin of ethiopia, while the idoors are selling their kids future for pennies on the dollar
Re: While we are busy fighting each other. The US Navy is helping landlocked Ethiopia build a navy. Somalis are qasaro!
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:54 pm
by skywalker25
Typhoon wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:09 am
its minilik request is being implemented, habar awal and gedobursi is their biggest target, read minilik letter to european powers
the idoor idiotically invited emirate base not knowing that base was to be used by egypt to pressure ethiopia even the eritreans got suspicions of emirate long term goals and saw egypt airforce behind these bases
ethiopia am was always gulf of aden and best believe, the israelis and gulf states will love to make somaliland another kilin of ethiopia, while the idoors are selling their kids future for pennies on the dollar
Let us know when you pull that Kenyan shift out of your anus..
Habar Awal and their Gudabursi neighbours are eating good today and will most likely eat well tomorrow. You on the other hand are living close to extinction with nothing today and no future. It’s all well and nice to worry about others but charity starts at home. Hargeisa is paradise compared to Gedo
Re: While we are busy fighting each other. The US Navy is helping landlocked Ethiopia build a navy. Somalis are qasaro!
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:10 pm
by Xildiiid
original dervish wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:05 am
You would be willing to abandon the capital and inter-riverine areas to Al Shabab?
This two bit terrorist group can be defeated with a well trained and equipped army together with tribal militias.
The only reason Al Shabab are so strong is because they hardly ever are put on the defensive.
Terrorist Somalis in AS made the Navy Seals abandon two missions with casualties despite superior tech (night vision goggles, months of surveillance with drones etc.).
They also killed two French elite commandos and captured the third who was later executed in Lower Shabeelle by AS.
Not a single ragtag clan militia in neighboring failed state Zoomalia can defeat AS. If you believe that you're crazy!
Re: While we are busy fighting each other. The US Navy is helping landlocked Ethiopia build a navy. Somalis are qasaro!
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:20 pm
by ReturnOfMariixmaan
Nolol cusub wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:39 am
You really think stuff like this will work on average people, when your Gedo president "sells" Somalia's deep waters to the Chinese.
Ethiopia has always been a western bitch and will always be. The problem for Ethiopian expansionism is basically two fold. Internally, it is surrounded by warring tribes that really want to devour each other the minute foreign donations dry out. The second problem, the West is in decline where China and Muslims are on the rise and are increasingly and strategically connected by global business interest. The silk road states are raising ( from the former Muslim Soviet states, to Pakistan,to Turkey to Gulf states, to East Africa will be interlinked by a global trade and common religious and historical experience. The far right hatred in Europe and America is just another manifestation of Western decline and which will worsen in the coming decades.
Ethiopia will be better served by being a good neighbor, but this point can only be brought home when the foreign donations and anti terror cash dry up.

How long you think US will subsidize shit-hole countries when their own country is 25 trillion in debt. Europe is in the same boat. Most of the European countries are in debt heavily.
Other factors that will discourage Ethiopian expansionism:
Millions of foreign born Somalis, educated, smart and wealthy will be invested in Somalia's national security and national interest. This is why it is critical that Somalia's development should have been started from the ground up. Each region should learn how to govern themselves and cooperate with the rest of the nation.
Now, can you go back to Gedo and clean up your land. Let's stop talking about fake Ethiopian navy meeting
I have a state that belongs to me exclusively. And I share the VP in yours. I'm fine Hutu boy
Xamar is my deegaan because I built it and turned into a shining beacon of glory in the shithole called East Africa.
You are the same Hutus that called for another 30 years of UN trusteeship. Yes, Somali nationalism is me.
Re: While we are busy fighting each other. The US Navy is helping landlocked Ethiopia build a navy. Somalis are qasaro!
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:36 pm
by Typhoon
skywalker25 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:54 pm
Typhoon wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:09 am
its minilik request is being implemented, habar awal and gedobursi is their biggest target, read minilik letter to european powers
the idoor idiotically invited emirate base not knowing that base was to be used by egypt to pressure ethiopia even the eritreans got suspicions of emirate long term goals and saw egypt airforce behind these bases
ethiopia am was always gulf of aden and best believe, the israelis and gulf states will love to make somaliland another kilin of ethiopia, while the idoors are selling their kids future for pennies on the dollar
Let us know when you pull that Kenyan shift out of your anus..
Habar Awal and their Gudabursi neighbours are eating good today and will most likely eat well tomorrow. You on the other hand are living close to extinction with nothing today and no future. It’s all well and nice to worry about others but charity starts at home. Hargeisa is paradise compared to Gedo
Legendary general duufle ii waran
as for kenya we never worried about kenya, it takes 5 weeks to conquer kenya, jubaland is not like isaaq clans, the southern tribes are crazy they are not colonised like you