I hope Dr Luis decorated 77 war veteran

[AbdiWahab252]

Our resident Cuban doctor and 77 veteran Ex Cuban POW Luis hasn’t posted in some time. I hope that you are well. It is sad to see that your countrymen were kidnapped and taken to Somalia.

[luis1]

I am not a doctor. I am not 1977 veteran, I am not a ex-Cuban POW. I am just a simple Cuban man who is interested in Ogaden War.

I hope my countrymen could return to Cuba, you should not forget those cuban doctors were helping many poor people in Kenya. I am sure many of these poor and sick people are somalis like you. This is an important and useful job. The world needs more people like them.

[Typhoon]

according to a book i read, cuba soldiers struggled against somali infantry and it was only through soviet airpower that the could break the stalemate.

after 77 war, the soviets were alarmed at the inability of cuban forces
according to ethiopians, cuban trained forces were incompetent and lost most battles against tplf and eplf, the same was true with cuban trained somali rebel

[luis1]

Could you show us the book,please?

I would like to read the book. I will be waiting for it.

Cuban troops only fought against Somali army and WSLF. Cubans did not fight against eritreans and TPLF.

[luis1]

Check out this CNN video:

A soviet adviser Pter Chaplygin:

From 4:41 to 5:50

"The Cuban troops in Ethiopia played a very important role"

[luis1]

An Ethiopian author, Gebru Tareke speaks about Ogaden War:

http://nebula.wsimg.com/dd49268a301ff83 ... oworigin=1

The Democratic Republic of Somalia invaded Ethiopia in mid-1977 to realize a
dream that had eluded its leaders for 17 years: the annexation of the Ogaden, a
first step toward the creation of a Greater Somalia co-extensive with the Somali
people in the Horn of Africa. The invasion ignited a major war of attrition that
involved many external actors and brought the Somalis very close to attaining
their strategic goal. For the Ethiopians, who were in the midst of a profound social
transformation, military defeat would have cost them about a third of their territory. It might also have precipitated not only the fall of the still-fledgling government in Addis Ababa, but possibly also the defeat of the Ethiopian revolution and
the dismemberment of the country. Because of a serendipitous confluence of
forces and events, however, Ethiopia averted catastrophe and turned the tables on
the aggressor. The dramatic and massive intervention by socialist countries
enabled the Ethiopians to crush and repel the invading army, which never recovered fully from its stunning defeat.

Assessing the Outcome

Was Ethiopian victory or Somali defeat primarily due to Soviet and Cuban intervention, or did other intrinsic factors influence the eventual outcome of the war?
Without doubt external interference decisively shifted the balance of forces on the
battlefield during the last two months of the conflict. While incompetent leadership contributed to their failure, eventually the Somalis were crushed by the sheer
weight of numbers and technology. With the arrival of 18,000 Cuban artillerymen, tank crews, and pilots who undertook and suffered much of the dangerous
combat tasks during the counter-offensive and about 1,500 Soviet military experts
who brought with them a vast amount of armaments, the Somalis stood absolutely
no chance of success. That Cuban-Soviet assistance was decisive in both their
defeat and expulsion is therefore incontrovertible.90 Yet the Somalis were ultimately checked from achieving their aim by the Ethiopians who fought them to a
deadlock for six gruelling months. By stabilizing the front on their own, the
Ethiopians turned the situation in their favor. In essence, they won by not losing.
Resoluteness was their main asset but they did benefit from the vacillation of or
even bungling by the Somali high command.

[theyuusuf143]

No matter how hard you try , for us the Cubans had boobs "cuba naasdheer" at first our soldiers thought they were girls. The glorious Somali peaple won that war militarily . And we whole heartedlly enjoyed every battle . No regrets.

[luis1]

Typhoon:

I am waiting for the book or the link.

Yusuf:

No matter how hard you try , for us the Cubans had boobs "cuba naasdheer" at first our soldiers thought they were girls. The glorious Somali peaple won that war militarily . And we whole heartedlly enjoyed every battle . No regrets.

Show me the sources that prove your point of view . I will be waiting for them.

[theyuusuf143]

Our fathers told us the Cubans had boobs, I am gonna Tell my children, and they will pass to their offspring. Even after 8 generations our peaople will still remember that we won that war militarily. And we only failed in politics, the same way as Ahmed gurey and adal empire , when the fking Portuguese saved the habeshas. We slaughtered fasco degama's Son Christopher .

[luis1]

Theyusuf:

Even after 8 generations our peaople will still remember that we won that war militarily.

Could you show me any book or source that prove Somalia defeated Cuba, Soviet Union and Ethiopia?

This important somali colonel says Somalia lost Ogaden War.

The Roots of Somali Crisis, An Insider's Memoir: A Book By Col Ahmed Omar Jess

https://menafn.com/1098096781/The-Roots ... -Omar-Jess

He says President Barre's failures made a significant contribution towards Somalia's defeat in the War. According to him, it was more prudent to focus on negotiated peace than pursuing an ambitious military victory. Another mistake by the president was the expulsion of USSR, which accelerated Ethiopia's regional power.

[AbdiWahab252]

Luis

Good to hear from you comrade. I did want to share a small story I heard from a Somali who went to Cuba several years ago and met one of the Cuban officers who fought in 77 at a cafe. The Cuban veteran had great respect for the Somali forces and how they fought the war. He did however express regret that the Communist nation that he fought to defend became such a close ally of the USA while Somalia collapsed and disliked by the USA.

[luis1]

AbdiWahab252

The Cuban veteran had great respect for the Somali forces and how they fought the war

I have the same feeling for somali army, but if Yusuf, Typhoon or someone else have sources about a great Somalia victory, they must show us those sources.


They always are talking about Cuban Naasdher and non-sense words, why dont they show us links or articles about Siad Barre great victory in 1978? Perhaps there are not such kind of books or articles.

[zidane88]

Luiz is starnage man. Have a look at this.

[luis1]

1 cuban POW does not change the final outcome of 1977 war.

I want books and sources that prove Somalia victory in 1978. Do you understand me?

[zidane88]

1 cuban POW does not change the final outcome of 1977 war.

I want books and sources that prove Somalia victory in 1978. Do you understand me?

1978 was the year Somali troops pull out with the soviet orders. How dumb can you be understanding this?. Without the super power intervention many cuban and Ethiopian's first language would have been Somali.