My Thoughts on JL and the way forward

[Talo alle udaa]

Madoobe does not equal Ogaden and Ogaden does not equal Madoobe. Likewise Farmaajo does not equal MX and vice versa. The abject poverty and primitive fundamental living standards facing locals will not change regardless of who controls the port of Kismaayo.

The Onus of pursuing strategic national objectives that include social cohesion, avoidance of further clan conflicts, rests with the Federal government.

Many amongst the Ogaden feel the current government is out to unseat and install a puppet they can control. This is the narrative the common man (mainly OGs) in the streets believes. In this environment, without local OG support, any decision that leads to using the army to subdue Madoobe by force will be interpreted in clan/tribal lenses and may lead to break of the army long tribal/clan lines.

Using a foreign power (Ethiopia none the less ) is even worse. If N&N had not destroyed the independence of the Somali parliament by running Jawari out of town and installing a yes men in his place, it could have stepped in these situations to reach a consensus on how the state should deal with Kenya and by extension Madoobe.


Madoobe made a huge mistake by botching the election and removing it of all credibility. The process should have been parliament led. But like N&N, JL parliament is beholden to Madoobe. Regardless, Madoobe will almost certainly be "elected/selected" tomorrow. He will be weaker and now ever more reliant on Kenya. Kenya also knows this and will milk this as much as they can. His victory will be hollow and will likely lead to more isolation from IC and the federal govt of Somalia.

Madoobe has made his decision. How N&N responds will determine wether there will be conflict. . The worst thing N&N can do now is attack him using a foreign adversary. Allowing things to play out and see how he deals with Kenya and their response to the International court of justice may lead to an opening. Ultimately, when the dust settles, the common Somali will not compromise on the territorial integrity of Somalia.

Let's hope the IDPs in Kismaayo do not have trek back to Dadaab.

[Murax]

Madoobe does not equal Ogaden and Ogaden does not equal Madoobe. Likewise Farmaajo does not equal MX and vice versa. The abject poverty and primitive fundamental living standards facing locals will not change regardless of who controls the port of Kismaayo.

The Onus of pursuing strategic national objectives that include social cohesion, avoidance of further clan conflicts, rests with the Federal government.

Many amongst the Ogaden feel the current government is out to unseat and install a puppet they can control. This is the narrative the common man (mainly OGs) in the streets believes. In this environment, without local OG support, any decision that leads to using the army to subdue Madoobe by force will be interpreted in clan/tribal lenses and may lead to break of the army long tribal/clan lines.

Using a foreign power (Ethiopia none the less ) is even worse. If N&N had not destroyed the independence of the Somali parliament by running Jawari out of town and installing a yes men in his place, it could have stepped in these situations to reach a consensus on how the state should deal with Kenya and by extension Madoobe.


Madoobe made a huge mistake by botching the election and removing it of all credibility. The process should have been parliament led. But like N&N, JL parliament is beholden to Madoobe. Regardless, Madoobe will almost certainly be "elected/selected" tomorrow. He will be weaker and now ever more reliant on Kenya. Kenya also knows this and will milk this as much as they can. His victory will be hollow and will likely lead to more isolation from IC and the federal govt of Somalia.

Madoobe has made his decision. How N&N responds will determine wether there will be conflict. . The worst thing N&N can do now is attack him using a foreign adversary. Allowing things to play out and see how he deals with Kenya and their response to the International court of justice may lead to an opening. Ultimately, when the dust settles, the common Somali will not compromise on the territorial integrity of Somalia.

Let's hope the IDPs in Kismaayo do not have trek back to Dadaab.

Talo ale udaa,

I respect your balanced approach. I feel the traits that had plagued us politically as Somalis over the years is:

-Lack of Tanaasul aka Compromise even in the slightest.
-Always interpreting every action anybody takes from a clan perspective.
-Selective displays of nationalism only when it suits you.
-A crazy sense of narcissistic, tribal moral high-ground behavior


This Jubbaland thing is a perfect example of these manifestations. Marexaans will tell you its okay for the Gov to use Ethiopian troops because Madoobe is backed by Kenyan troops. Ogadens will tell you it is okay for Madoobe to use Kenyan troops. Where are the people who will tell their tol and the other tol both your views are wrong?


Lack of principality gets noticed quickly which leads to distrust. In this particular case, I always felt Madoobes time should be up. A person ruling Jubbaland who is close to a Country that is attempting to usurp your territorial waters is just unacceptable I’m sorry. He’s had his years and Jubbaland badly needs a new face. I support another Ogaden who has a degree of neutrality from Kenyan or Ethiopian influence. An On Farmaajo’s side I don’t support him at all in using Ethiopian muscle to try to dislodge Madoobe. That is unacceptable. You ran on a nationalistic platform against foreign intervention. Again I challenge Farmaajo to hold a press conference and demand Kenyan withdrawal from Jubbaland, or prepare for hostilities. I think this action would almost make him a permanent hero amongst Somalis. Even many Al Shaydaan might defect.


Bottom line is personally I can sleep easy knowing that Ogadens call me a qabiliste and Marexaans call me a traitor follower of Ogadens. That tells me I’m sort of doing something right

[theyuusuf143]

Watch now , nabar iyo naxdin sending letters to the world

To all those shisha smokers.
To the muslim leage
Arab league

Ladies and gentlemen , shisha is not good for the health if you can't stop , don't buy any charcoal from axmed madoobe.

these people have no morals they will try to cut the supplies of kismayo. Madoobe should establish a strong chamber of commerce , who are well connected to other Chambers of commerce especially , kenya , Somaliland and puntland.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Jubbaland is done. It's broken in half. Now the race to capture Bu'ale begins. Nobody cares about Ogaden. They are shiisheye kalkal numero 1. I'll bring the devil to prevent their power increasing in the region.

[theyuusuf143]

Jubbaland is done. It's broken in half. Now the race to capture Bu'ale begins. Nobody cares about Ogaden. They are shiisheye kalkal numero 1. I'll bring the devil to prevent their power increasing in the region.

If you put buale on google maps you get nothing.

[ImamAhmed]

Jubbaland is done. It's broken in half. Now the race to capture Bu'ale begins. Nobody cares about Ogaden. They are shiisheye kalkal numero 1. I'll bring the devil to prevent their power increasing in the region.

If you put buale on google maps you get nothing.

masakinta ha ku digan

[original dervish]

Peaceful dialogue is the way forward.
The main focus is to keep the peace in JL.

[AbdiWahab252]

Madoobe needs to be firm and crack down on opposition. He should also expand the parliament to include underrepresented groups like the Sacad of Tuurdhow, Buale etc.

This recent migrants from Shilaabo and Gedo should be sent packing

[original dervish]

Conflict should be avoided at all costs.
Madobe should move to neutralise sfg incendiary policies.

The clown Xidig should not be arrested....observed closely but not arrested.

He is there to provoke Madobe into launching a crackdown so the sfg can claim he is a warlord.

[Mk777]

Madoobe needs to be firm and crack down on opposition. He should also expand the parliament to include underrepresented groups like the Sacad of Tuurdhow, Buale etc.

This recent migrants from Shilaabo and Gedo should be sent packing

Since when did sacad live in jubaland sxb?

[Sagax]

Madoobe needs to be firm and crack down on opposition. He should also expand the parliament to include underrepresented groups like the Sacad of Tuurdhow, Buale etc.

This recent migrants from Shilaabo and Gedo should be sent packing

Since when did sacad live in jubaland sxb?

look at this langaab galjecel looking at every turn HG's make, waryaa sit your langaab arse down and watch as your gaal loving gaaljecels lose their 1 deegans left in Jubaland by us daroods.

[Mk777]

Madoobe needs to be firm and crack down on opposition. He should also expand the parliament to include underrepresented groups like the Sacad of Tuurdhow, Buale etc.

This recent migrants from Shilaabo and Gedo should be sent packing

Since when did sacad live in jubaland sxb?

look at this langaab galjecel looking at every turn HG's make, waryaa sit your langaab arse down and watch as your gaal loving gaaljecels lose their 1 deegans left in Jubaland by us daroods.

Ma durantahay sxb kkk. I asked a simple question why are u acting like an emotional naag

[Sagax]

Since when did sacad live in jubaland sxb?

look at this langaab galjecel looking at every turn HG's make, waryaa sit your langaab arse down and watch as your gaal loving gaaljecels lose their 1 deegans left in Jubaland by us daroods.

Ma durantahay sxb kkk. I asked a simple question why are u acting like an emotional naag

im tired of your dirt nose browsing Hawiye affair, its non stop 24H Hawiye's business you talk about, for once mind your gaaljecel business and talk about the daroods that are exterminating your folks in Jubaland.

[Murax]

Mk777 is right, Gaaljecel, Shiikhaal are the Hawiye with regard to Jubbaland. HG are have a State with a Port bring built (Hobyo). Leave Jubbaland affairs to Reer Jubbaland.

[Mk777]

look at this langaab galjecel looking at every turn HG's make, waryaa sit your langaab arse down and watch as your gaal loving gaaljecels lose their 1 deegans left in Jubaland by us daroods.

Ma durantahay sxb kkk. I asked a simple question why are u acting like an emotional naag

im tired of your dirt nose browsing Hawiye affair, its non stop 24H Hawiye's business you talk about, for once mind your gaaljecel business and talk about the daroods that are exterminating your folks in Jubaland.

This thread is about jubaland u f-king retard. Were u raised in the qurbo? Do u know where I’m grouped under in Parliament u xoolo. https://m.facebook.com/logged_out/watch ... uk%2F&_rdr
I’ll bet a lot of money u are a sheegato. Your constant baseless attacks of gaaljecel makes it clear u are a daarood from jubaland . I lived in an ceyr neighbourhood when I lived in xamar and I can put a lot of money that u are not a habar gidir.