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Does anyone have any knowledge of this region? How are the biyomaal being treated as of late are they still oppressed? What is the power sharing agreement in the city of marka, barawe etc. How was the integration with south west state. Anyone of knowledge of this region explain to me
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The elves and dwarfs kived peaceful in a Somali paradise for centuries.

Then the Orcs invaded and a dark night engulfed the region for the last 30 years.
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This happened, where HG captured the HQ of Marka in 2017, whereby Biimaal capitulated in defeat as they called for Peace conference:



The peace conference of HG and Biimaal in 2018 last year, as Bimaal and HG agreed to share (Biimaal as Mayor and HG as Deputy Mayor)

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The agreed contract signed by both Elders of HG and Biimaal, thus ending the long war they had and Waafow Biimal warlod returned to Marka as its mayor chosen:
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continued.....

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HG has bigger Fish to fry like becoming a dawlad a President after farmaajo is gone in 2020, so them having to make peace with the defeated biimaal is a good thing, because now we have S/hoose as a whole, both the Marka deputy mayor and also the Deputy mayor of S/hoose as a whole being in HG's hand, while having the other hands free to fight the N&N government that is dying everyday.

Notice the picture below, its Kheire joining the HG political group/fold as the HG momentum for power is reaching the Somalia Villa's Presidency;
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How do these Moryaans go to the mosque and pray five times a day when they have blood in their hands is beyond comprehension. Traverse 100s of miles, illegally claim land, rape women and girls as young as 12 in mosques and then pray Fajr in the very same mosque you raped a young girl the night before. Caqli Moryaan.
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Sagax wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:00 pm HG has bigger Fish to fry like becoming a dawlad a President after farmaajo is gone in 2020, so them having to make peace with the defeated biimaal is a good thing, because now we have S/hoose as a whole, both the Marka deputy mayor and also the Deputy mayor of S/hoose as a whole being in HG's hand, while having the other hands free to fight the N&N government that is dying everyday.

Notice the picture below, its Kheire joining the HG political group/fold as the HG momentum for power is reaching the Somalia Villa's Presidency;
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Are u proud of oppressing/defeating the biymaal who welcomed u to his land?
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Actually it wasn't hg alone.
Hsm regime received military aid that given to tribal militias under the guise of sna.

The Biimaal resistance had pushed hg squatters out of the majority of S Hoose.....there last stronghold was Merca.

Hsm sent Abgaal, Murasade and hg tribal militias with heavy donated military weaponry and saved hg in S Hoose.

Successive hag regimes have conspired with hg to dispossess Biimaals.
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Mk777 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:08 pm Does anyone have any knowledge of this region? How are the biyomaal being treated as of late are they still oppressed? What is the power sharing agreement in the city of marka, barawe etc. How was the integration with south west state. Anyone of knowledge of this region explain to me

The region is mainly controlled by AS. Janaale and the farm land around Shalanbood are an AS stronghold. They are also in control of the strategic town of Jilib Marka located along the coast. Truth be told, the Biimaal stopped fighting because of AS's persecution of Biimaal villagers in 2017 when they burnt down their towns and stole their livestock. Apart from the Hawiye SNA units previously stationed in Merka District which were led by Gobaale and Qaafow, the main threat to the Biimaal has recently been AS who have been fighting them on behalf of the Mooryaans who lack native manpower to continue with a war of attrition.
General Mohamed Roble Jimale Gobale, Commander of the
3rd Brigade of the SNA (see S/2013/413, annex 3.3), and General Mahamed Hasan
Qaafow, led the attack on K50. Governor of Lower Shabelle Nur confirmed that
Somali military force commanders deliberately attacked the local population.
p.g 85
Following the seizure of control on 9 June 2014 of the port city of Marka and the
K-50 area in Lower Shabelle by the Hawiye-dominated 3rd and 5th Brigades of the
SNA, the district administration and the Biimaal clan militia allied to it were
displaced.
p.g 88

https://hiiraan.com/PDF/2014/Oct/SEMG_Report.pdf
By late 2016, Al-Shabaab’s allegiances in the region were more firmly
established. Spurred by Al-Shabaab’s temporary takeover of Marka in February
2016, supported to various degrees by Haber Gedir militia and elements of the
Somali National Army, the Biimaal switched their allegiance to AMISOM and
anti-Al-Shabaab forces (see S/2016/919, annex 7.5). Haber Gedir networks in the
region turned to Al-Shabaab and consolidated their alliance. By October 2016,
Al-Shabaab had commenced large-scale burning and looting of Biimaal villages,
escalating its attacks in May 2017.33 In August, open conflict erupted between
Biimaal and Haber Gedir militias and Al-Shabaab over control of Marka
https://www.undocs.org/S/2017/924
A current dormant war is the years-long conflict between AS and the Biyomaal in Lower
Shabelle. This clan has been in conflict with the Habargidir since the 1990s over farmland; and
because it continued fighting despite AS directives to the contrary, it was subjected to attacks by
AS and forced to accept a truce. As punishment, AS has impounded 1000 camels and about 3000 goats from the clan in the past two years.11 Currently, there is a truce between AS and the Biyomaal; however, the clan has still not been paid back its livestock.
https://hiraalinstitute.org/wp-content/ ... litics.pdf

https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/07/26/som ... n-villages

AS had been in control of Marka town since 2016 until it was liberated from them not too long ago by Amisom and the new Turkish trained multi-clan SNA brigades in roughly 2018. The Biimaal militia leader Waafow has now been officially handed over control of the town along with his Biimaal militia. However, until AS are cleansed from all of Marka District, the conflict is not really over for the Biimaal as they are an obstacle towards regaining full sovereignty of their land.
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The Biimaals will never give up their land to AS/moryaan.

Unfortunately they were caught between a rock and a hard place.

Zummale.....how come the Dir mps never advocate on behalf of the Biimaals?
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zumaale wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:17 pm
Mk777 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:08 pm Does anyone have any knowledge of this region? How are the biyomaal being treated as of late are they still oppressed? What is the power sharing agreement in the city of marka, barawe etc. How was the integration with south west state. Anyone of knowledge of this region explain to me

The region is mainly controlled by AS. Janaale and the farm land around Shalanbood are an AS stronghold. They are also in control of the strategic town of Jilib Marka located along the coast. Truth be told, the Biimaal stopped fighting because of AS's persecution of Biimaal villagers in 2017 when they burnt down their towns and stole their livestock. Apart from the Hawiye SNA units previously stationed in Merka District which were led by Gobaale and Qaafow, the main threat to the Biimaal has recently been AS who have been fighting them on behalf of the Mooryaans who lack native manpower to continue with a war of attrition.
General Mohamed Roble Jimale Gobale, Commander of the
3rd Brigade of the SNA (see S/2013/413, annex 3.3), and General Mahamed Hasan
Qaafow, led the attack on K50. Governor of Lower Shabelle Nur confirmed that
Somali military force commanders deliberately attacked the local population.
p.g 85
Following the seizure of control on 9 June 2014 of the port city of Marka and the
K-50 area in Lower Shabelle by the Hawiye-dominated 3rd and 5th Brigades of the
SNA, the district administration and the Biimaal clan militia allied to it were
displaced.
p.g 88

https://hiiraan.com/PDF/2014/Oct/SEMG_Report.pdf
By late 2016, Al-Shabaab’s allegiances in the region were more firmly
established. Spurred by Al-Shabaab’s temporary takeover of Marka in February
2016, supported to various degrees by Haber Gedir militia and elements of the
Somali National Army, the Biimaal switched their allegiance to AMISOM and
anti-Al-Shabaab forces (see S/2016/919, annex 7.5). Haber Gedir networks in the
region turned to Al-Shabaab and consolidated their alliance. By October 2016,
Al-Shabaab had commenced large-scale burning and looting of Biimaal villages,
escalating its attacks in May 2017.33 In August, open conflict erupted between
Biimaal and Haber Gedir militias and Al-Shabaab over control of Marka
https://www.undocs.org/S/2017/924
A current dormant war is the years-long conflict between AS and the Biyomaal in Lower
Shabelle. This clan has been in conflict with the Habargidir since the 1990s over farmland; and
because it continued fighting despite AS directives to the contrary, it was subjected to attacks by
AS and forced to accept a truce. As punishment, AS has impounded 1000 camels and about 3000 goats from the clan in the past two years.11 Currently, there is a truce between AS and the Biyomaal; however, the clan has still not been paid back its livestock.
https://hiraalinstitute.org/wp-content/ ... litics.pdf

https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/07/26/som ... n-villages

AS had been in control of Marka town since 2016 until it was liberated from them not too long ago by Amisom and the new Turkish trained multi-clan SNA brigades in roughly 2018. The Biimaal militia leader Waafow has now been officially handed over control of the town along with his Biimaal militia. However, until AS are cleansed from all of Marka District, the conflict is not really over for the Biimaal as they are an obstacle towards regaining full sovereignty of their land.
Alright thanks for the information. I have recently watched a video by a popular Somali youtuber, arimaheena whose friend asad was shot by mooryaan in the city of marka. May Allah grant him full recovery

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original dervish wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:24 pm The Biimaals will never give up their land to AS/moryaan.

Unfortunately they were caught between a rock and a hard place.

Zummale.....how come the Dir mps never advocate on behalf of the Biimaals?
Sxb, if there was ever any real Dir unity, the conflict would have come to an end a long time ago. FFS Djibouti was supplying arms to HSM government not too long ago. One cannot also forget that the current leader of AS is also a Dir from K5 who belongs to a clan called Bajamal which is from the same sub-branch as the Biimaal, but the Irhabi ideology and money trumps any clan loyalty. Their closest kin who live up North are no better either but they weren't exactly in a position to directly support them even though they were accused by the HG of stoking the conflict.
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Mk777 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:27 pm

Alright thanks for the information.
The real victims in Lower Shabelle are the ones who are truly voiceless and do not fire a shot in anger; Gibil Cad, Bantus attached to different clans and large sections of the Digil. Your clan in parts of Wanleweyn benefit by being allied to AS but that that might not bode well for the future.
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Leave it to Zuumale to educate me (and others) about the intricacies of southern politics.

Unfortunately, you are right there is no Dir unity. Gurgura were happy when Ciise were killed in DD. Gadabursi were non-commital coming to our aid against Oromo raac and Afars. You are also right old man IOG is clueless about Moryaan clans’ behavior.

Thankfully, we are large enough to fend off any enemy, Somali or non-Somali.
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Mk777 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:08 pm Does anyone have any knowledge of this region? How are the biyomaal being treated as of late are they still oppressed? What is the power sharing agreement in the city of marka, barawe etc. How was the integration with south west state. Anyone of knowledge of this region explain to me

Biimaal are typical Somali clan they can't be oppressed , they are not weaker or inferior to any one in their turf. In fact they are in control of marka . The rest Will be explained to you by our brother Zumaale he is the only
Southern Dir in this forum. He knows and understand local politics.
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