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guhad122 wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:40 pm So our great Beenaale heard from a Majeerteen guy that OGs don't live in Bakool What is so ironic is that there is actually huge Majeerteen population in Bakool with the Cawlyahan and they are often known as “Buuraashadleey”. There are many well known MJ families who are from there. Wonder if Voltage’s source had a beef with the Buraashadleey dude?
The dude's mental state is declining right in front of us. Miyaan waxan dad ladhalanin? I thought I heard he has a brother. For one, it is actually good to see that Ilka-yar’s animosity against Ogaden this time against the only OG clan that always have had a soft spot for them. For some reason, Cawlyahans get along with the Ilka-yars. Is this for xaal marin for all the raids and prowling of Ilka-yars in the hands of crazy Cawlyahans in Gedo? I even remember our member Koronto would never post anything aginst Ilka-yar.
For those who don’t know, the first wave of OGs that came to Jubbaland had arrived via Bakool. These were mostly Maqaabul, Tolomoge, and M/Zubeer. They first ventured into RRA territory in Buur Hakaba. There are so many writings about the battle of Buur Hakaba between the OGs and the Beelaha RRA. OGs, being new arrivals, got defeated and moved on to Jilib area where they crossed the Jubba River. Cawlyahans, on the other hand, didn’t have to do much because they lived so close to Jubbaland and migrated from Bakool and Afdheer area to what is now J/Dhexe and Gedo. I have read many books and journals on their arrival, and estimates place it around 1880s. That is almost a half-century after the first wave. Marehans crossed the border via Dollow in the 1910s mostly fleeing the Ethiopians. They later joined by few Galti Mareexaans.
Now you wonder whatever happened to Bakool. Since Cawlyahans are mostly pastoralists and are not known for urban-dwelling like many other Somali clans, their cities in Bakool are not that populated. But they have always maintained a huge presence in Bakool especially Ceelbarde, Yeed and Aato. For some reason, the most active politicians of Cawlyahan often come from Bakool. Xalane, C/wahab Ugaas, and Oomaar are some of those politicians. One of the biggest Cawlyan Ugaases is from Bakool. I think there are at least 5 or 6 Cawlyahans in the current Southwestern State. When Jees and his SPM forces arrived South from Waqooyi, they settled in Bakool and actually took over the entire region with the help of the locals: “In June 1989, however, a second SPM (Ogadeni) front had been opened up in the south-west, after Colonel Omar Jess (Mohamed Zubeir/Ogaden) defected from Hargeisa. By January 1990 Jess controlled Bakool region, where he obtained the support of the Awlihan Ogaden. In August 1990, the SNM, USC, and SPM agreed to coordinate operations against Barre”. That section of SPM actually did more damage to Afweyne than Jubooyinka section led by the late Bashiir Bililiqo. Even now, some of the biggest units of SNA is located in that area. One amazing thing about Cawlyahan is that they are the only clan in Somalia whose lands in Kenya, Ethiopia, and Somalia are somehow connected. Afdheer to Bakool to Gedo to J/Dhexe and from there to Norther eastern.
Here is the map of Ceelbarde.

Here is Ceelbarde:

Here are the original Dhaanto players showing how it is done. Dhaanto actually came from Cawlyahan territories.

Madaxwenaha Southwestern visiting Ceelbarde:

Here is one of the dozens of parties endorsing the creation of Bakool Sare. Reer Bakool OG even had a president:

Voltage wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:32 pm Somalis have said cagti joogsan waydo ceebey la kulantaa, but Allah has blessed you because you are Ogaadeen. If you notice, I never like Ogaadeen inaan ku fogaada.

For all the teenage like cuqdad and tantrums you guys display toward Marehan, I have not been motivated in kind.

Otherwise I would have shut your ass up a long time ago. You do not know the amount of information I have collected and I am not talking bs maps made in 1999 master's thesis or fake oral history or embellished accounts from Orientalists.

I am talking real definitive stuff like British administration intelligence records showing this Ogadeen tribe or that was allowed to cross this border or that with how many goats and camels.

You talking about breaking someone. Nothing Ogaadeen did was done without Marehan guaranteeing movement. According to the British this was a strict alliance between Mohamed Subeer and Marehan/reer Guri.

I told you before the bulk of Awlyahan was the last Marehan /Ogaden major population movement. These guys moved in even after the Marehan galti. They had exactly 6000 camels counted and processed.

I have generally decided not to go far into this or post the info I have collected because ma rabo inaan "ku fogaado." It's quite sensitive.

So keep up your bs stuff, but it's an insecure man's rambling.

And besides, Marehan geel is IN Afmadoow district today so the saga is still ongoing.

Finally, your vantage point on this is very PRIMITIVE and third-world, this is why I seem to get under your skin.

Let's take Buraashadlay as an example. Buraashadlay did exist (and for your information it included a lot of Marehan too), but what I said as the Majerten former gov of Bakool described was ownership of land.

So few Buraashadlay Majeerteen were in Bakool. Does that mean they had a town? Did they have a district?

You think by nature if existing somewhere, you have ownership of it.

It's very primitive.

UgaaskaBarakaysan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:59 am

Voltage wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:32 pm Somalis have said cagti joogsan waydo ceebey la kulantaa, but Allah has blessed you because you are Ogaadeen. If you notice, I never like Ogaadeen inaan ku fogaada.

For all the teenage like cuqdad and tantrums you guys display toward Marehan, I have not been motivated in kind.

Otherwise I would have shut your ass up a long time ago. You do not know the amount of information I have collected and I am not talking bs maps made in 1999 master's thesis or fake oral history or embellished accounts from Orientalists.

I am talking real definitive stuff like British administration intelligence records showing this Ogadeen tribe or that was allowed to cross this border or that with how many goats and camels.

You talking about breaking someone. Nothing Ogaadeen did was done without Marehan guaranteeing movement. According to the British this was a strict alliance between Mohamed Subeer and Marehan/reer Guri.

I told you before the bulk of Awlyahan was the last Marehan /Ogaden major population movement. These guys moved in even after the Marehan galti. They had exactly 6000 camels counted and processed.

I have generally decided not to go far into this or post the info I have collected because ma rabo inaan "ku fogaado." It's quite sensitive.

So keep up your bs stuff, but it's an insecure man's rambling.

And besides, Marehan geel is IN Afmadoow district today so the saga is still ongoing.

Finally, your vantage point on this is very PRIMITIVE and third-world, this is why I seem to get under your skin.

Let's take Buraashadlay as an example. Buraashadlay did exist (and for your information it included a lot of Marehan too), but what I said as the Majerten former gov of Bakool described was ownership of land.

So few Buraashadlay Majeerteen were in Bakool. Does that mean they had a town? Did they have a district?

You think by nature if existing somewhere, you have ownership of it.

It's very primitive.

Give credit to Maj General Hussein Abdullahi for giving us all those toys in the Afmadow district.

knet wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:23 am

UgaaskaBarakaysan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:59 am

Voltage wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:32 pm Somalis have said cagti joogsan waydo ceebey la kulantaa, but Allah has blessed you because you are Ogaadeen. If you notice, I never like Ogaadeen inaan ku fogaada.

For all the teenage like cuqdad and tantrums you guys display toward Marehan, I have not been motivated in kind.

Otherwise I would have shut your ass up a long time ago. You do not know the amount of information I have collected and I am not talking bs maps made in 1999 master's thesis or fake oral history or embellished accounts from Orientalists.

I am talking real definitive stuff like British administration intelligence records showing this Ogadeen tribe or that was allowed to cross this border or that with how many goats and camels.

You talking about breaking someone. Nothing Ogaadeen did was done without Marehan guaranteeing movement. According to the British this was a strict alliance between Mohamed Subeer and Marehan/reer Guri.

I told you before the bulk of Awlyahan was the last Marehan /Ogaden major population movement. These guys moved in even after the Marehan galti. They had exactly 6000 camels counted and processed.

I have generally decided not to go far into this or post the info I have collected because ma rabo inaan "ku fogaado." It's quite sensitive.

So keep up your bs stuff, but it's an insecure man's rambling.

And besides, Marehan geel is IN Afmadoow district today so the saga is still ongoing.

Finally, your vantage point on this is very PRIMITIVE and third-world, this is why I seem to get under your skin.

Let's take Buraashadlay as an example. Buraashadlay did exist (and for your information it included a lot of Marehan too), but what I said as the Majerten former gov of Bakool described was ownership of land.

So few Buraashadlay Majeerteen were in Bakool. Does that mean they had a town? Did they have a district?

You think by nature if existing somewhere, you have ownership of it.

It's very primitive.

Give credit to Maj General Hussein Abdullahi for giving us all those toys in the Afmadow district.

Majeertten owns Puntland iyo Kismayo we will never claim what is not ours. OGs understand that Marehans don't cause they out to steal like niggerers. And they have been stopped with bullets only language these Mooryaians understand. I will soon claim Gedo to perhaps in an attempt to help with their mental illness. World will end before Kismayo ever becomes a Boon city. What is mined is mine and what is yours is yours.

UgaaskaBarakaysan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:26 am

knet wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:23 am

UgaaskaBarakaysan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:59 am

Give credit to Maj General Hussein Abdullahi for giving us all those toys in the Afmadow district.

Majeertten owns Puntland iyo Kismayo we will never claim what is not ours. OGs understand that Marehans don't cause they out to steal like niggerers. And they have been stopped with bullets only language these Mooryaians understand. I will soon claim Gedo to perhaps in an attempt to help with their mental illness. World will end before Kismayo ever becomes a Boon city. What is mined is mine and what is yours is yours.

Sxb dabayacos are an endangered species in the south, if you continue poking the lion you will eventually become extinct. So leave the battles to the big boys you are just a shacab, try to keep your head down lest you attract unwanted attention kkkk. Food for thought

knet wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:42 am

UgaaskaBarakaysan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:26 am

knet wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:23 am

Majeertten owns Puntland iyo Kismayo we will never claim what is not ours. OGs understand that Marehans don't cause they out to steal like niggerers. And they have been stopped with bullets only language these Mooryaians understand. I will soon claim Gedo to perhaps in an attempt to help with their mental illness. World will end before Kismayo ever becomes a Boon city. What is mined is mine and what is yours is yours.

Sxb dabayacos are an endangered species in the south, if you continue poking the lion you will eventually become extinct. So leave the battles to the big boys you are just a shacab, try to keep your head down lest you attract unwanted attention kkkk. Food for thought

Smart people are always in danger from boons. It's not politics we business driven farmaajo dumb ass can't stop that it. No One can stop MJs we are the Engine that keeps Somalia Running. Boons are the malfunction of society

After days of skirmishes between Marehan and Majerteen sub-clan militias in the country's third-largest city, residents of Kismayo say heavy fighting erupted on Friday, killing and wounding dozens of people.

The Marehan and the Majerteen belong to the larger Darod clan, recognized as one of the four major clans in Somalia.

A Somali aid worker in Kismayo, Ali Bashi, tells VOA that the militiamen of both sub-clans are technically Somali government troops and government supporters, who are nevertheless bitterly divided along clan lines.

Bashi says Friday's clash in Kismayo between the Marehan and the Majerteen follows a battle the two sides fought on April 23.

After the battle, Majerteen soldiers withdrew from Kismayo to the town of Bulo Gadud, 35 kilometers away, leaving the city and its strategic port in the hands of the Marehan.

In recent days, Majerteen troops have been seen moving closer to Kismayo. On Thursday, at least four people were wounded when one group of clan militiamen attacked another.

The Marehan's grip on Kismayo appears now to have tightened. VOA has learned that Marehan troops entered Bulo Gadud on Friday and declared victory over the Majerteen sub-clan.

UgaaskaBarakaysan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:49 am

knet wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:42 am

UgaaskaBarakaysan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:26 am

Sxb dabayacos are an endangered species in the south, if you continue poking the lion you will eventually become extinct. So leave the battles to the big boys you are just a shacab, try to keep your head down lest you attract unwanted attention kkkk. Food for thought

Smart people are always in danger from boons. It's not politics we business driven farmaajo dumb ass can't stop that it. No One can stop MJs we are the Engine that keeps Somalia Running. Boons are the malfunction of society

I don't care for niic niic and nonsense dabayaco, next time you try and make some noise we're gonna make you run all the way to punaniland

After days of skirmishes between Marehan and Majerteen sub-clan militias in the country's third-largest city, residents of Kismayo say heavy fighting erupted on Friday, killing and wounding dozens of people.

The Marehan and the Majerteen belong to the larger Darod clan, recognized as one of the four major clans in Somalia.

A Somali aid worker in Kismayo, Ali Bashi, tells VOA that the militiamen of both sub-clans are technically Somali government troops and government supporters, who are nevertheless bitterly divided along clan lines.

Bashi says Friday's clash in Kismayo between the Marehan and the Majerteen follows a battle the two sides fought on April 23.

After the battle, Majerteen soldiers withdrew from Kismayo to the town of Bulo Gadud, 35 kilometers away, leaving the city and its strategic port in the hands of the Marehan.

In recent days, Majerteen troops have been seen moving closer to Kismayo. On Thursday, at least four people were wounded when one group of clan militiamen attacked another.

The Marehan's grip on Kismayo appears now to have tightened. VOA has learned that Marehan troops entered Bulo Gadud on Friday and declared victory over the Majerteen sub-clan.

https://www.voanews.com/archive/major-c ... yo-somalia

knet wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:57 am

UgaaskaBarakaysan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:49 am

knet wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:42 am

Smart people are always in danger from boons. It's not politics we business driven farmaajo dumb ass can't stop that it. No One can stop MJs we are the Engine that keeps Somalia Running. Boons are the malfunction of society

I don't care for niic niic and nonsense dabayaco, next time you try and make some noise we're gonna make you run all the way to punaniland

After days of skirmishes between Marehan and Majerteen sub-clan militias in the country's third-largest city, residents of Kismayo say heavy fighting erupted on Friday, killing and wounding dozens of people.

The Marehan and the Majerteen belong to the larger Darod clan, recognized as one of the four major clans in Somalia.

A Somali aid worker in Kismayo, Ali Bashi, tells VOA that the militiamen of both sub-clans are technically Somali government troops and government supporters, who are nevertheless bitterly divided along clan lines.

Bashi says Friday's clash in Kismayo between the Marehan and the Majerteen follows a battle the two sides fought on April 23.

After the battle, Majerteen soldiers withdrew from Kismayo to the town of Bulo Gadud, 35 kilometers away, leaving the city and its strategic port in the hands of the Marehan.

In recent days, Majerteen troops have been seen moving closer to Kismayo. On Thursday, at least four people were wounded when one group of clan militiamen attacked another.

The Marehan's grip on Kismayo appears now to have tightened. VOA has learned that Marehan troops entered Bulo Gadud on Friday and declared victory over the Majerteen sub-clan.

https://www.voanews.com/archive/major-c ... yo-somalia

My bad for talking to a boon! Go do something with your life. MJ vs Marehan everyone knows is a massacre on Marehans.

Voltage wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:32 pm Somalis have said cagti joogsan waydo ceebey la kulantaa, but Allah has blessed you because you are Ogaadeen. If you notice, I never like Ogaadeen inaan ku fogaada.

For all the teenage like cuqdad and tantrums you guys display toward Marehan, I have not been motivated in kind.

Otherwise I would have shut your ass up a long time ago. You do not know the amount of information I have collected and I am not talking bs maps made in 1999 master's thesis or fake oral history or embellished accounts from Orientalists.

I am talking real definitive stuff like British administration intelligence records showing this Ogadeen tribe or that was allowed to cross this border or that with how many goats and camels.

You talking about breaking someone. Nothing Ogaadeen did was done without Marehan guaranteeing movement. According to the British this was a strict alliance between Mohamed Subeer and Marehan/reer Guri.

I told you before the bulk of Awlyahan was the last Marehan /Ogaden major population movement. These guys moved in even after the Marehan galti. They had exactly 6000 camels counted and processed.

I have generally decided not to go far into this or post the info I have collected because ma rabo inaan "ku fogaado." It's quite sensitive.

So keep up your bs stuff, but it's an insecure man's rambling.

And besides, Marehan geel is IN Afmadoow district today so the saga ia still ongoing.

Finally, your vantage point on this is very PRIMITIVE and third-world, this is why I seem to get under your skin.

Let's take Buraashadlay as an example. Buraashadlay did exist (and for your information it included a lot of Marehan too), but what I said as the Majerten former gov of Bakool described was ownership of land.

So few Buraashadlay Majeerteen were in Bakool. Does that mean they had a town? Did they have a district?

You think by nature if existing somewhere, you have ownership of it.

It's very primitive.