yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.
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yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.
Dr. Drake Brockman in his book “ British Somaliland" gives the following account of the origin of the tribe:— “Before the advent of the Arab proselytisers there either lived on the coast, or, perhaps, only traded with the natives, a native of India, a Hindu named Ram Nag. This man, in order to form an alliance with the natives of the coast so as to increase his trade, married a Galla woman who gave birth to a son. This son was the sole heir to all Ram Nag's wealth, which was considerable, and in consequence of this, as soon as he grew up, the Arab traders gave him the nick name “Zumal” which means “the wealthy ". Zumal, or Zumali, had a son called lnir, who had three sons, Dirr, Hawiyeh, and Madoba. From the last named are descended the Esa or Aysa tribes, while the tribe known as Hawiyeh to-day are the descendants of the secondson. The eldest son, Dirr, only had a daughter, called Dombirra who, being an heiress, eventually married Darod, an Arab, the son of one Jiberti bin Ismail, who became the ancestor of all the tribes. The other great division of the Somali, known as the Ishaak, are descended from Sheikh Ishaak, one of the earliest of the Arab proselytisers".
Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.
These are your cousin modern descendants of Ram Naag.




Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.
Like other historians, anthropologists, zoologists, orientalists, etc of the late 19th & early 20th century, Ralph Brockman got a lot of things wrong. In order to study a particular people & their culture/traditions, you need a team of professionals that's objective, does extensive research over a period of time, cross reference & comparisons with other studies/works, employment & consultation of local historians and experts (from different tribes/clans), etc. Even scientists of those era got a lot things wrong that were corrected over the years/decades, so it's foolish to even hint at Brockman's works as acceptable historical reference.
Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.
All he recorded was the origin myth of somalis from the 18/19 century from their oral history. Fast forward to the 1950's and the Indian background of Raam Naag Zaag was forgotten. In any event this Hindu is ancestor zero for most somalis. No other man is remembered after Zaag.paperino wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:35 pm Like other historians, anthropologists, zoologists, orientalists, etc of the late 19th & early 20th century, Ralph Brockman got a lot of things wrong. In order to study a particular people & their culture/traditions, you need a team of professionals that's objective, does extensive research over a period of time, cross reference & comparisons with other studies/works, employment & consultation of local historians and experts (from different tribes/clans), etc. Even scientists of those era got a lot things wrong that were corrected over the years/decades, so it's foolish to even hint at Brockman's works as acceptable historical reference.
Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.
even if we go with your arab daddy you are clearly not arab anymore and have ram naags blood running through your veins one way or another.
Ram naag is more realistic anyways somalis look like a cross between Tamils and negros.
Ram naag is more realistic anyways somalis look like a cross between Tamils and negros.
Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.
Well Oromo boy , i have no reason nor sources nor evidence to change my genealogy from Sheekh Isxaaq to your indho-buur Xabashi ancestors nor to Pakis according to Yusuf. I will stick with the traditional myth , period.ImamAhmed wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:51 pm even if we go with your arab daddy you are clearly not arab anymore and have ram naags blood running through your veins one way or another.
Ram naag is more realistic anyways somalis look like a cross between Tamils and negros.
Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.
And I will stick with mine. Isaaq maha dir irir samaale 

Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.
you are not even Isaaq , you are Oromo. car indhahaaga sawir ka soo qaad indho-bulucyaw.
Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.
Kkkk calm down there. What are you going to say next suldaan xasan the great chief of the habar awal tribe is also orom because he doesn’t subscribe to your arab daddy.
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Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.
Nacdal baa ku taal Ram Nag.
Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.
and who said suldan Xasan has Isaaq blood? 90% of his genes are oromo. If he sits beside the late Meles no one could tell them apart. So an Oromo recent arrival within the Isaaq has no weight in the manner when it comes to shekeh Isxaaq .ImamAhmed wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:21 pm Kkkk calm down there. What are you going to say next suldaan xasan the great chief of the habar awal tribe is also orom because he doesn’t subscribe to your arab daddy.
Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.
Whatever man saladinta isaaq waxay aminsanyaheen ram nag. Deal with it.
Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.
Salaadiinta Isaaq hawshoodu ma aha inay cid u abtiriyaan , now little kid , qaado talada oo jooji dhaqan xumadaad wadid , hadii u hooyadaa adiga gaar ahayn orgeeyey Ram Nag Zag waa kaligaa umada haysku darin .ImamAhmed wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:44 pm Whatever man saladinta isaaq waxay aminsanyaheen ram nag. Deal with it.
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Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.
This guy is a coon for life. 

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Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.
Fake isaaqs/Somalis feeling the heat. No pure Somali person believe In your fairytale , I would rather believe our own Somali myth than your myth. At least our myth has leg to stand on but yours is pure non sense. I am Somali and my my closest peaple on Earth are the Oromos. Proud to be Dir Somali and I am proud to be related to the Oromo the kush family. You thought you gonna Achieve something to claim something you are not. But I promise you our sons will make fun of those empty tombs of isaaq and daaarod. You Will end up like the Dominicans. I promise you . Viva Dir Viva ilma samaale death to the Arab slaves.
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