Mudane Salaad Cali Jeele Blasts Culusow, Shariif, Sakiin, Guleed

[Murax]

Salaad Cali Jeelle ayaa siyaasiyiintii iyo madaxdii ka qeybgashay Xafladdaas u kala qeybiyey laba qeyb.

Qaar ka tirsan kuwaas ayuu sheegay inay yihiin kuwa horey ugu fashilmatay xukunka oo dayacay dalka, isla markaasna hadda doonaya inay xukunka kusoo noqdaan.



Qeybta labaad ayuu ku sheegay inay yihiin kuwa dalaaliin ah oo siyaasadda ugu jiro inay lacag ka abuuraan, islamarkaana ay ganacsi ka raadiyaan la dagaalanka Xukuumadda talada


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.caasim ... video/amp/

I see you Jeele

[Shirib]

Having the likes of Salaad Cali Jeele and Omar Finish on their side is actually not a good look for N&N.

[Murax]

Having the likes of Salaad Cali Jeele and Omar Finish on their side is actually not a good look for N&N.

Lol trolling aside I agree. That said, name me one politician in Somalia who’s not in bed with crooks one way or another. Or wouldn’t have a problem with it if it achieves their ends?

[Shirib]

Having the likes of Salaad Cali Jeele and Omar Finish on their side is actually not a good look for N&N.

Lol trolling aside I agree. That said, name me one politician in Somalia who’s not in bed with crooks one way or another. Or wouldn’t have a problem with it if it achieves their ends?

None, the biggest problem with Somalia right now is lack of institutions or actual political framework in the greater sense. It's merely a game of personalities. The only group that seems to have a political framework and established institution is Al Shabaab.

[Voltage]

Having the likes of Salaad Cali Jeele and Omar Finish on their side is actually not a good look for N&N.

Lol trolling aside I agree. That said, name me one politician in Somalia who’s not in bed with crooks one way or another. Or wouldn’t have a problem with it if it achieves their ends?

I don't agree. I can't speak on Filish, but Salaad Cali Jeele is a wadani of the first order. He also always strikes me as qof saafi ah. Also, I have had family members left in Mogadishu in the 90's bring him up long ago in discussions about their experiences.

One of my cousins (she was the only child begotten to an Abgaal woman by an uncle of mine) was left in Mogadishu because her mother refused to leave. Long before Farmaajo gov, she was telling me about her experiences in Mog and about how Darods that were left in Mog all sought protection from their reer abti. If they didn't have reer abti or protection, one of the well known protectors was Salaad Cali Jeele. In fact his Harti Abgaal/Agoonyar group (Sheekh Shariif is also from them) came to be considered more as the protectors of minorities in Mogadishu because of him. And later we saw the Agoonyar led by Sheekh Shariif be the first Abgaal subclan to embrace the Islamic Courts and fight warlords.

This guy used to protect the enemy at the worst possible time.

I have generally had a profund respect for the guy ever since. This was back in 2010 she was telling me.

Salaad Cali Jeele's detractors are the original people who forced him to leave his humble/ xer lifestyle when they attacked his xer settlement. I am talking about Habar Gidir in the Abgaal-Habar Gidir wars. This is why he carries a grudge which LET'S BE HONEST all Abgaal did which caused them to support Abdullahi Yusuf and Ethiopians in Mogadishu.

You also have to recognize at that time Saleebaan had the Port of Mogadishu, Sacad had Villa Somalia, Cayr had Bakaaraha.

All of thr government arsenal fell into Caydiid's hands and that civil war infrastructure was still in effect where Saleebaan who can't hold a village today had the Port of Mogadishu!

I am not agreeing with anything that happened, but I am trying to contextualize why Gheedi, Salaas Cali Jeele and really all of Abgaal supported Abdullahi Yusuf/Ethiopians. They wanted to break up that infrastructure.

Beyond that Salaad Cali Jeele never once went on a tribal duulaan. He didn't go to Gedo when USC did, he didn't go to Bay, he didn't go to Kismaayo, he didn't go toBeled-Weyne, he didn't go to Gaalkaacyo.

The guy was literally compelled to arm himself after Caydiid and Habar Gidir attacked his humble Xer settlement in the Abgaal countryside.

So no I don't agree with lazy generalizations. Gaal dil gartiisana sii. Salaad Cali is a man who has my respect and it has nothing to do with his current politics

[Khalid Ali]

Seriously salaad cali jeele is the last hope for the failmaajo groupies this is very low. This man was a mj slave through out his adult life

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Having the likes of Salaad Cali Jeele and Omar Finish on their side is actually not a good look for N&N.

Lol trolling aside I agree. That said, name me one politician in Somalia who’s not in bed with crooks one way or another. Or wouldn’t have a problem with it if it achieves their ends?

I don't agree. I can't speak on Filish, but Salaad Cali Jeele is a wadani of the first order. He also always strikes me as qof saafi ah. Also, I have had family members left in Mogadishu in the 90's bring him up long ago in discussions about their experiences.

One of my cousins (she was the only child begotten to an Abgaal woman by an uncle of mine) was left in Mogadishu because her mother refused to leave. Long before Farmaajo gov, she was telling me about her experiences in Mog and about how Darods that were left in Mog all sought protection from their reer abti. If they didn't have reer abti or protection, one of the well known protectors was Salaad Cali Jeele. In fact his Harti Abgaal/Agoonyar group (Sheekh Shariif is also from them) came to be considered more as the protectors of minorities in Mogadishu because of him. And later we saw the Agoonyar led by Sheekh Shariif be the first Abgaal subclan to embrace the Islamic Courts and fight warlords.

This guy used to protect the enemy at the worst possible time.

I have generally had a profund respect for the guy ever since. This was back in 2010 she was telling me.

Salaad Cali Jeele's detractors are the original people who forced him to leave his humble/ xer lifestyle when they attacked his xer settlement. I am talking about Habar Gidir in the Abgaal-Habar Gidir wars. This is why he carries a grudge which LET'S BE HONEST all Abgaal did which caused them to support Abdullahi Yusuf and Ethiopians in Mogadishu.

You also have to recognize at that time Saleebaan had the Port of Mogadishu, Sacad had Villa Somalia, Cayr had Bakaaraha.

All of thr government arsenal fell into Caydiid's hands and that civil war infrastructure was still in effect where Saleebaan who can't hold a village today had the Port of Mogadishu!

I am not agreeing with anything that happened, but I am trying to contextualize why Gheedi, Salaas Cali Jeele and really all of Abgaal supported Abdullahi Yusuf/Ethiopians. They wanted to break up that infrastructure.

Beyond that Salaad Cali Jeele never once went on a tribal duulaan. He didn't go to Gedo when USC did, he didn't go to Bay, he didn't go to Kismaayo, he didn't go toBeled-Weyne, he didn't go to Gaalkaacyo.

The guy was literally compelled to arm himself after Caydiid and Habar Gidir attacked his humble Xer settlement in the Abgaal countryside.

So no I don't agree with lazy generalizations. Gaal dil gartiisana sii. Salaad Cali is a man who has my respect and it has nothing to do with his current politics

That is not true at all. All abgaal did not support AY. Majority of Abgaal was pro maxaakiimta. In fact majority of Agoonyar salaad ali jeeles people supported n fought for Sheikh Shariif. Only a small group of the warsangeli sub the maxaaraafs supported the AY government the rest of warsangeli was fighting for Abuukar cumar cadaan. Waceysle and wacbuudhan was 100% pro ICU.

Marka sheekada raqiiska nagala tag. Geedi and Salaad ali jeelle has the least support in Abgaal. Nobody likes them hence why Geedi claims to be daarod nowadays.


Also dont forget that the port was not functioning during the civil war nor the airport. Ceel macaan port north of xamar was functioning and Abgaal was using Cisaleey as a airport where habar gidir used Bali doogle. So again i don't get your point.

[theyuusuf143]

Jeele, and Cali geedi = daarood slaves.

[Voltage]

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[Voltage]

Abkoow, I don't talk to you about anything since Farmaajo baa ka dhex guuxayo. No offense but you will change your opinion about your closest family member if they say one good thing about Farmaajo.

The intellectual and elder statesmen of Abgaal on this board was our old friend from Minnesota Twisted-Logic. That guy taught this entire forum about the Abgaal position at that time and you were right there.

You can revise whatever you want for political reasons. Qofka ula aad though

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Abkoow, I don't talk to you about anything since Farmaajo baa ka dhex guuxayo. No offense but you will change your opinion about your closest family member if they say one good thing about Farmaajo.

The intellectual and elder statesmen of Abgaal on this board was our old friend from Minnesota Twisted-Logic. That guy taught this entire forum about the Abgaal position at that time and you were right there.

You can revise whatever you want for political reasons. Qofka ula aad though

So twisted logics position is Abgaal position? A guy who despised Maxkamadaha?

Most of the fightings where happening around Warshadaha, Sodonka and Taraabunka.

In the Abgaal xaafado Towfiiq, Suuq bacaad, Fagax,Jamhuuriya, Ex control balcad, Juungal all the way to Siinaay there was daily fightings. You can google it. What about the 7 days war in the areas between Miisaanka dhuxusha in Towfiiq to Jamhuuriya in kaaraan?

http://www.somalitalk.com/2007/apr/24apr107.html

[sahal80]

Salaad ali jeele and Geedi are harti (geedi is even warsangali abgaal) Abgaal who had political relations with harti Darod(mj)

hartida darod waxay bilaabeen in wixii ku magac ah ay dhahaan "you are from us" tusaale the cawrame in kismaayo who r well known to be maqare Samaale on the ajuran account when the british colonials arrived in NFD. but that is not the point ler us back to the harti abgaal. Ali mahdi was harti abgaal...sh sharif breaked that curse bc of his coalition with ceyr jihasdists and Saleebaan ahludsuna so he is considired to be the first "hiraab mideeye"

today Abgaal is led by Hiraab islamists that is why you see abdullahi nuur he is harti abgaal and one big candidate to replace hassan sheikh he is gonna pick odowaa... hassan sh and guuleed. Sh sharif now has changed abit but still he is not against HG he just like to deal with the reality( deal with OG for JL, MJ for Darod, hawadle for hiiraan, HG for Xamar) 80% percent of Xamar security officers were HG under sharif. he kept abgaal for dekeda iyo airportka(dhaqaalaha)

Ali mahdi, salaad ali jeele and geedi who are all harti traditional politicians r ok with any darod president who eliminates HG interests to weaken them in their name so when they r in power there wont be a rival. sadly they see their hiraab brothers this way instead of cohabiting with them but not all traditional abgaal are same. the wacbuudhan are hardcore hiraabists and pro banaadir state one of them is nuurcade who ousted yeey for targeting HG. and muuse suudi. they picked omar filish they way they pickes xidig against ahmed madoobe they wanna use him against the imam of Banaadir al xaaj muuse suudi but it wont work.

waceysle are hiraabists who rely on HG backing


look this link harti abgaal historical relations with harti Darod when hawadle(sh ali jimcaale) and HG( Abdullahi isse) were closing the koonfur door on them.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=h_M ... um&f=false