Voltage wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:34 pm
Typhoon, back in college I used to volunteer at this Somali Community Center and I became very close with this HG/Sacad older brother who worked there who was a religious guy and just the most commendable human being. I was there to mentor some of the high school Somali kids but this Sacad brother became my own mentor (about life/spirituality) and like an older brother to him. The guy since married a Marehan/reer Diini girl who is just as much a beautiful human being like him
We would joke a lot and exchange cultural/political viewa. He taught me a lot about Habar Gidir.
One of the things he joked to me was his Sacad, when they are speaking to Darod (they mimic Marehan/Majerten Mudug accent) and when speaking with Hawiye they go back to their natural more-Hawiye accent. When I was confused and said don't Habar Gidir speak the same accent as their Marehan/Majerteen neighbors, he said nop. He taught me his Sacad is the most closest to the Darod accent but even then he said you will never see a Mareexaan or Majeerteen pronounce "j" like even a "j". He said they always pronounce it like a "ch" whereas Hawiye pronounce it like a hard "jj". Another thing was like if you look at for instance "uga baxaynaa" he said Marehan/Majerten will pronounce it "u-ga-baxayn-naa" whereas Hawiye will pronounce it "ug-gaba-xay-naa". He said how many times has he seen his own Sacad talk like a Darod when Darod is present but then go back to their own speech when with Hawiye.
So small little jokes like that.
But one of the things that he taught me that was more serious was he said as Habar Gidir, there is no Somali group they love more than Mareexaan but it's always we feel (he said) it's Mareexaan that doesn't like us back. Then he said within Habar Gidir, reerka Cayr even loves Mareexaan more than they love us the rest of their HG brothers. He added when Mareexaan does turn around to look at HG, they don't look beyond Cayr ilaahay amarkiis buu yiri which irritates Saleebaan since they already view Sacad as closing off any potential links with Majeerteen.
Wallahi he said Mareexaan is smart, si fiican bay na barteen. He said his Sacad is like the wind, hadaad faanisid they are yours today, if someone gives them a longer faan tomorrow they go there; the Saleebaan is like water, once a course is set (and it doesn't matter who sets it) they just follow it they have no flexibility and they are lazy mostly because they are the most reer baadiye in HG; cayr though he said is like a tree, once you put the roots down it is firm, he said they are very loyal and always line up beside who ever they owe abaal to. He said reerkaas has a huge love/hate relationship with Mareexaan...they love Marehan more than they love even other HG but they also are the most harsh and war-ready against Mareexaan among HG because Mareexaan is never considerate or fair back.
So it's interesting what you wrote because it reminded me of that Sacad brother's light hearted information
voltage habar gedir always needs a patron, weather abgaal, mj,OG(sacad) marexaan(cayr)
its because their patron saints ba ku habaaray inay weligood hogaan yeelan ayna dad hoogamin(abdallle iyo awaarerro)
saleebaan is looma oyaan they sought a patron among the majerteen during ssdf times but majerteen want to make them view them lower then small mj clans and treated them like that.
habar gedir is the only major clan that doesnt have traditional elders.
you will never see habar gedir leading somaliwayn, abdulahi cise came close, because he was close to the marexaan(ina mareero diini) but then somaliwayn would not accept-him, so they changed the rules for the presidency due to his age
even during the civil war, cayr was first to rise after aidid failed, because cayr reverted back to his client status with the marexaan and saw them rise among the hawiye(hence cumer geele analysis to yamamoto) and they became the most important clan among the hawiyew hich gave the marexaan acces to hawiye hartland(JVA dominated by marexaan)
even after JVA cayr once again joined the marexaan with ahlu sade wal jamaaca and we defended dhusamareeb more then 10 times...ding dong
after cayr sought a patron among the marexaan, sacad sought a patron among the majerteen and cabdulahi yusuf
we marexaan tried to make habar gedir something twice with abdulahi cise and abdiqasim(cabdiqasim is long story it was our way to trick somaliwayn and cayr, if you know what i mean

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historically habar gedir always came under abgaal but since the fall of emirate harar, habar gedir wanted move outside the influence of abgaal because they took on daqan daarood
Voltage have you ever wondered why ugaas diini never married from habar gedir
