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Re: What's with HAG's obsession with MSB? BBC Somali is clearly a HAG channel no wonder their ratings is shit!

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ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:05 pm
this guy used to be a snet member i forgot his name, he has romantic view of dawladi 60s
salebaan wa reer uqdad qaba, they jelouse because we marexaan never include them in anything :lol: dawlada kacaanka we choose cayr and abgaal(abdiqasim and hussein kulmiye :D
dooxada juba we choose cayr
DAS Yamamoto sought and
obtained President Guelleh's agreement to approach the Ayr
clan in Somalia with a view toward tamping down the
violence there and facilitating the reconciliation
process.Guelleh cautioned, however, that the Ayr had very
little real influence in Somalia, and derived much of its
authority from its affiliation with the Marehan.
Guelleh
described Somalia as both complicated and simple, and the
warlords as "dangerous." He also said the warlords will
never accept a central government.

Guelleh responded that in his view, the Ayr do not
have much influence. They originate
from the poorest and most desolate region of Somalia and
derive much of their authority from their affiliation with
the Marehan.
When Said Barre's regime collapsed, he
continued, the Ayr were targeted by the Hawiye and kept a
low profile. After Abdiqasim came to power, the Ayr
re-emerged and many became businessmen. Guelleh stated
that some Ayr are Islamists, such as Dahir Aweys, the head
of Al-Ittihad. Yet without the Marehan, the Ayr are
nothing and remain close to them. Still, Guelleh said, he
would be willing "to send some messages to them."
farmaajo choose kheyre murusade and wasiirka arimaha gudaha wasiir sabriye (cayr) who is building galmudug and made the capital dhuusamareeb :lol:

we always choose we leads habar gedir, the only time ee farahanaga ka baxeen wa markii aidid iyo ICU and both time they came back to the fold

Saddam, somaliwayn wa boqortoyo aad daxal uu leedhahay ;)
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Re: What's with HAG's obsession with MSB? BBC Somali is clearly a HAG channel no wonder their ratings is shit!

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saddam notice ambassador Yamamoto speaking to umer geele ( yamamoto is the new somali ambassador to somalia and the king maker in somali politics and horn of africa politics)
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This guy is a fake "Dr", the failing BBC shouldn't try to misinform people using arguments from authority based on misleading credentials. He's a student that should know better than to allow his tribal biases fully dictate his deceitful presentation of empirical data.
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Dr maxmed Xaaji ingriis wa nin kle ee dhiig le oo an arkey inu so cad uga soojedo beenta iyo propaganda beesha afweyne ee faqash. Maxmed wa nin. dadkisa xaqooda u dooda taasi Xaq u leeyahey.
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Re: What's with HAG's obsession with MSB? BBC Somali is clearly a HAG channel no wonder their ratings is shit!

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Typhoon wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:46 pm
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:05 pm
this guy used to be a snet member i forgot his name, he has romantic view of dawladi 60s
salebaan wa reer uqdad qaba, they jelouse because we marexaan never include them in anything :lol: dawlada kacaanka we choose cayr and abgaal(abdiqasim and hussein kulmiye :D
dooxada juba we choose cayr
DAS Yamamoto sought and
obtained President Guelleh's agreement to approach the Ayr
clan in Somalia with a view toward tamping down the
violence there and facilitating the reconciliation
process.Guelleh cautioned, however, that the Ayr had very
little real influence in Somalia, and derived much of its
authority from its affiliation with the Marehan.
Guelleh
described Somalia as both complicated and simple, and the
warlords as "dangerous." He also said the warlords will
never accept a central government.

Guelleh responded that in his view, the Ayr do not
have much influence. They originate
from the poorest and most desolate region of Somalia and
derive much of their authority from their affiliation with
the Marehan.
When Said Barre's regime collapsed, he
continued, the Ayr were targeted by the Hawiye and kept a
low profile. After Abdiqasim came to power, the Ayr
re-emerged and many became businessmen. Guelleh stated
that some Ayr are Islamists, such as Dahir Aweys, the head
of Al-Ittihad. Yet without the Marehan, the Ayr are
nothing and remain close to them. Still, Guelleh said, he
would be willing "to send some messages to them."
farmaajo choose kheyre murusade and wasiirka arimaha gudaha wasiir sabriye (cayr) who is building galmudug and made the capital dhuusamareeb :lol:

we always choose we leads habar gedir, the only time ee farahanaga ka baxeen wa markii aidid iyo ICU and both time they came back to the fold

Saddam, somaliwayn wa boqortoyo aad daxal uu leedhahay ;)
Marexaan waa boqortoyo. Even more supreme to Ajuraan due to the fact we survived the dagaalka sokeeye and we're back on the throne. Anyways is Yamamoto pro MX horta?
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Re: What's with HAG's obsession with MSB? BBC Somali is clearly a HAG channel no wonder their ratings is shit!

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He has deep seated inferiority complex, I think the BBC should be informed that this man speaks as a defender of his tribes interests and should be dubbed as such. Not as an aqoonyahan and definitely not a Dr since he has no MD nor a phD.

Furthermore his tribesmen were present in xamar for 14 years without other somali clans and had a chance to prove themselves as leaders however they were unable to do so.

So that begs the question is there really any need for cuqdad?

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UgaaskaBarakaysan wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:23 pm He has deep seated inferiority complex, I think the BBC should be informed that this man speaks as a defender of his tribes interests and should be dubbed as such. Not as an aqoonyahan and definitely not a Dr since he has no MD nor a phD.

Furthermore his tribesmen were present in xamar for 14 years without other somali clans and had a chance to prove themselves as leaders however they were unable to do so.

So that begs the question is there really any need for cuqdad?

Hawiye and Isaaq have a inferiority complex to Darood. They really detest us bro. They try their hardest to rewrite our history. It's crazy
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Re: What's with HAG's obsession with MSB? BBC Somali is clearly a HAG channel no wonder their ratings is shit!

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Typhoon, back in college I used to volunteer at this Somali Community Center and I became very close with this HG/Sacad older brother who worked there who was a religious guy and just the most commendable human being. I was there to mentor some of the high school Somali kids but this Sacad brother became my own mentor (about life/spirituality) and like an older brother to him. The guy since married a Marehan/reer Diini girl who is just as much a beautiful human being like him

We would joke a lot and exchange cultural/political viewa. He taught me a lot about Habar Gidir.

One of the things he joked to me was his Sacad, when they are speaking to Darod (they mimic Marehan/Majerten Mudug accent) and when speaking with Hawiye they go back to their natural more-Hawiye accent. When I was confused and said don't Habar Gidir speak the same accent as their Marehan/Majerteen neighbors, he said nop. He taught me his Sacad is the most closest to the Darod accent but even then he said you will never see a Mareexaan or Majeerteen pronounce "j" like even a "j". He said they always pronounce it like a "ch" whereas Hawiye pronounce it like a hard "jj". Another thing was like if you look at for instance "uga baxaynaa" he said Marehan/Majerten will pronounce it "u-ga-baxayn-naa" whereas Hawiye will pronounce it "ug-gaba-xay-naa". He said how many times has he seen his own Sacad talk like a Darod when Darod is present but then go back to their own speech when with Hawiye.

So small little jokes like that.

But one of the things that he taught me that was more serious was he said as Habar Gidir, there is no Somali group they love more than Mareexaan but it's always we feel (he said) it's Mareexaan that doesn't like us back. Then he said within Habar Gidir, reerka Cayr even loves Mareexaan more than they love us the rest of their HG brothers. He added when Mareexaan does turn around to look at HG, they don't look beyond Cayr ilaahay amarkiis buu yiri which irritates Saleebaan since they already view Sacad as closing off any potential links with Majeerteen.

Wallahi he said Mareexaan is smart, si fiican bay na barteen. He said his Sacad is like the wind, hadaad faanisid they are yours today, if someone gives them a longer faan tomorrow they go there; the Saleebaan is like water, once a course is set (and it doesn't matter who sets it) they just follow it they have no flexibility and they are lazy mostly because they are the most reer baadiye in HG; cayr though he said is like a tree, once you put the roots down it is firm, he said they are very loyal and always line up beside who ever they owe abaal to. He said reerkaas has a huge love/hate relationship with Mareexaan...they love Marehan more than they love even other HG but they also are the most harsh and war-ready against Mareexaan among HG because Mareexaan is never considerate or fair back.

So it's interesting what you wrote because it reminded me of that Sacad brother's light hearted information
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Voltage wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:34 pm Typhoon, back in college I used to volunteer at this Somali Community Center and I became very close with this HG/Sacad older brother who worked there who was a religious guy and just the most commendable human being. I was there to mentor some of the high school Somali kids but this Sacad brother became my own mentor (about life/spirituality) and like an older brother to him. The guy since married a Marehan/reer Diini girl who is just as much a beautiful human being like him

We would joke a lot and exchange cultural/political viewa. He taught me a lot about Habar Gidir.

One of the things he joked to me was his Sacad, when they are speaking to Darod (they mimic Marehan/Majerten Mudug accent) and when speaking with Hawiye they go back to their natural more-Hawiye accent. When I was confused and said don't Habar Gidir speak the same accent as their Marehan/Majerteen neighbors, he said nop. He taught me his Sacad is the most closest to the Darod accent but even then he said you will never see a Mareexaan or Majeerteen pronounce "j" like even a "j". He said they always pronounce it like a "ch" whereas Hawiye pronounce it like a hard "jj". Another thing was like if you look at for instance "uga baxaynaa" he said Marehan/Majerten will pronounce it "u-ga-baxayn-naa" whereas Hawiye will pronounce it "ug-gaba-xay-naa". He said how many times has he seen his own Sacad talk like a Darod when Darod is present but then go back to their own speech when with Hawiye.

So small little jokes like that.

But one of the things that he taught me that was more serious was he said as Habar Gidir, there is no Somali group they love more than Mareexaan but it's always we feel (he said) it's Mareexaan that doesn't like us back. Then he said within Habar Gidir, reerka Cayr even loves Mareexaan more than they love us the rest of their HG brothers. He added when Mareexaan does turn around to look at HG, they don't look beyond Cayr ilaahay amarkiis buu yiri which irritates Saleebaan since they already view Sacad as closing off any potential links with Majeerteen.

Wallahi he said Mareexaan is smart, si fiican bay na barteen. He said his Sacad is like the wind, hadaad faanisid they are yours today, if someone gives them a longer faan tomorrow they go there; the Saleebaan is like water, once a course is set (and it doesn't matter who sets it) they just follow it they have no flexibility and they are lazy mostly because they are the most reer baadiye in HG; cayr though he said is like a tree, once you put the roots down it is firm, he said they are very loyal and always line up beside who ever they owe abaal to. He said reerkaas has a huge love/hate relationship with Mareexaan...they love Marehan more than they love even other HG but they also are the most harsh and war-ready against Mareexaan among HG because Mareexaan is never considerate or fair back.

So it's interesting what you wrote because it reminded me of that Sacad brother's light hearted information
voltage habar gedir always needs a patron, weather abgaal, mj,OG(sacad) marexaan(cayr)
its because their patron saints ba ku habaaray inay weligood hogaan yeelan ayna dad hoogamin(abdallle iyo awaarerro)
saleebaan is looma oyaan they sought a patron among the majerteen during ssdf times but majerteen want to make them view them lower then small mj clans and treated them like that.
habar gedir is the only major clan that doesnt have traditional elders.

you will never see habar gedir leading somaliwayn, abdulahi cise came close, because he was close to the marexaan(ina mareero diini) but then somaliwayn would not accept-him, so they changed the rules for the presidency due to his age

even during the civil war, cayr was first to rise after aidid failed, because cayr reverted back to his client status with the marexaan and saw them rise among the hawiye(hence cumer geele analysis to yamamoto) and they became the most important clan among the hawiyew hich gave the marexaan acces to hawiye hartland(JVA dominated by marexaan)
even after JVA cayr once again joined the marexaan with ahlu sade wal jamaaca and we defended dhusamareeb more then 10 times...ding dong

after cayr sought a patron among the marexaan, sacad sought a patron among the majerteen and cabdulahi yusuf
we marexaan tried to make habar gedir something twice with abdulahi cise and abdiqasim(cabdiqasim is long story it was our way to trick somaliwayn and cayr, if you know what i mean :D )

historically habar gedir always came under abgaal but since the fall of emirate harar, habar gedir wanted move outside the influence of abgaal because they took on daqan daarood

Voltage have you ever wondered why ugaas diini never married from habar gedir :D
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Another 1000000th Threads about HAG created by Mxs, :roll:

Every day on their waking moments the Mxs talk about HAGs 24H non stops especially about HGs, yet they call us obsessed????
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Sagax wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:52 pm Another 1000000th Threads about HAG created by Mxs, :roll:

Every day on their waking moments the Mxs talk about HAGs 24H non stops especially about HGs, yet they call us obsessed????
Why does this guy mention MX leaders on a daily basis? The same hag dude Saddam posted about in the OP speaks on us everyday and is supposedly some "aqoonyahan" but instead acts like a dhoocil with a large chip on his shoulder. Even at 7:40 am in the morning we're on his mind :-@

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UgaaskaBarakaysan wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:59 pm
Sagax wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:52 pm Another 1000000th Threads about HAG created by Mxs, :roll:

Every day on their waking moments the Mxs talk about HAGs 24H non stops especially about HGs, yet they call us obsessed????
Why does this guy mention MX leaders on a daily basis? The same hag dude Saddam posted about in the OP speaks on us everyday and is supposedly some "aqoonyahan" but instead acts like a dhoocil with a large chip on his shoulder. Even at 7:40 am in the morning we're on his mind :-@

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Failmaajo brought back the country seriously
Alshabaab controls more land than in hassan sheikh maxamuud govt time there were more suicide attacks ever. I don't think building a few statues is bringing back the country only in the minds of some daroods
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